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    Tour de France

    Anyone watching?

    It's been pretty crazy so far. Lots of crashes. Vandevelde out, F. Schleck out. Today's cobblestones were nuts - watching the guys pedal through that dust was pretty wild. Our Canadian boy (Hesjedal) gave it a good go, but couldn't quite finish it out.
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    Not to happy there is no team time trial this year. But yeah the cobblestones were crazy today, glad thats done.

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    Ahhh, the big pharmacy race.
    The only sports where everybody knows that at least 70+% of all participants use PED and only the dumb ones get caught.

    I normally watch the big mountain stages later on where the Tour is won and lost. The first normal stages where normally the sprinters win are not as interesting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by suckerpuncher View Post
    Ahhh, the big pharmacy race.
    The only sports where everybody knows that at least 70+% of all participants use PED and only the dumb ones get caught.
    Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's too bad cycling isn't drug-free like all the other professional sports. Must be something very specific about cycling.

    Quote Originally Posted by suckerpuncher View Post
    I normally watch the big mountain stages later on where the Tour is won and lost. The first normal stages where normally the sprinters win are not as interesting.
    That's been the difference this year - the first stages have been pretty interesting. Looks like organizers made them more challenging to introduce a bit more drama into it. Some pretty serious crashes already.

    And these early stages may not have a huge influence on the overall finish, but they're fun to watch for guys trying to get stage wins - a career highlight for almost any of them. I was really pulling for Hesjedal yesterday - a great ride.
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    The organizers have kinda screwed up the race thus far though, F. Schleck out, A. Schlek looked like he was about to be out, Vande Velde out, Armstrong loses a few seconds for a flat after going through all the cobblestones but thats so huge right now especially losing that time to Contador with no team TT coming to get it back. Alot of big guys are out or nearly out for the GC this early on really sucks.

    The stages last year were set up perfect first to last imo, alot better than this year.

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    I felt really badly for Chavanel on the cobbles - yellow jersey, was in good shape, but a crash and a couple of punctures necessitated bike changes and it was all over for him. The early stages seemed like more of a crapshoot than a race to reward the fastest riders.

    We'll see how it all shakes down, though. It's a long race.
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    That's fucking hilarious. Armstrong gets (finally and rightfully) stripped of his TdF titles yet all the runner-ups in those 7 seven years who'll now probably get awarded the titles are in some way, shape or form involved in doping themselves. What a joke.

    The only thing to do is vacate the the titles from the last 15-20 years since it's impossible to findout who was (better if someone was) clean.

    Then again even now cycling is anything but clean. As long as the tests are 3-4 generations behind the substances they test for it's impossible to claim cycling is drug free. Not just cycling, though.


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    I'll take ' nobody gives a shit about cycling (outside france/spain)' for $200 Alex

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    I just find it interesting that Armstrong's decision to stop fighting the allegations is being taken as an admission of guilt.

    I have no idea is he's guilty or not, but it seems unusual for him to be presumed guilty by default.

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    Just look what happened to Marion Jones. He surely didn't want to go to jail for perjury so now he cowards out and can play the martyr.

    If all the other top guys from that era used illegal substances / blood doping it's almost impossible to imagine the best of that era was clean.
    And now his old teammates finally come forward and accuse him. Once again if his own team did it how likely is it he as the top guy and leader of the team didn't do anything?
    And when they tested his old probes they came back positive when tested by the latest standards.

    The was pretty much 0 chance he would have won a trial. And with his sworn testemonies a perjury trial would have been inevitable unless he would have admitted to it.

    And let's not forget he doesn't have the same backing of his powerful follow Texans anymore.


    Not to take anything away from him he still was the best of that era but none of the top guys in that era were clean. Not him, not Ullrich, not Basso, not Beloki, not Virenque and the list goes on and on. And even today there's still a big problem with doping. Just look at this years Olympic champ Vinokurov who was part of that system even back then.

    Even worse than the steroid era in baseball. At least some of the big names stayed clean there.
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