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Raja
08-26-2011, 08:15 PM
Finally joined a league of mine so I'm going through the players list for low ranked guys. I'm really just browsing for now, so feel free to add!

Malkin (17)
Getzlaf (35)
Kovalchuk(36)
Giroux(54)
Heatley(57)
Gaborik(70)
Hossa(113)
Okposo(216)
Gagne(268)
Hemsky(313)
Mueller(320)

For goalies, I'm doing just goalie # as well because some overall numbers don't justify being "underrated"

Thomas(9)
Quick(13)
Brodeur(16)
Ward (18)
Halak (19)

saywhaaaaat
08-27-2011, 08:25 AM
Here are three more (parenthesis is current pre-draft ranking, whereas rank refers to actual Yahoo! rank for prior seasons):

(183) T. Selanne - 14th overall player last season this late? Worth a dice roll, even with age.
(203) B. Laich - Among players ranked as LW for this season, he ranked 12th last year and 10th in 2009-10.
(248) R. Whitney - ranked 14th last year among players designated as LW for this campaign.

Cornholio
08-28-2011, 03:28 PM
Keith at 58
Lidström at 60
Pronger at 112
Roy at 123
Cammaleri at 130
Elias at 184
P.Bergeron at 189
Seidenberg at 182 (huge hits and blocks)
Zajac at 210 (OK, he'll miss the first time, but is likely to be IR'd right away)
Connolly at 219
Alfie at 221
Kunitz at 239
Ian White at 244 (PP in Detroit)
Oshie at 276
Hemsky at 313
Leino at 372

Buckethead
09-05-2011, 07:19 PM
Hemsky @ 313 is unreal. He's actually dropped to 314 somehow lol..

How deep are LW / RW this year. Particularly depth vs. high end.

High-end centres seem to be scarcer than ever. The position is always deep, but there just aren't as many top top C as usual. Datsyuk is a LW for some retarded reason.

Bure96
09-05-2011, 07:21 PM
RW seems quite deep this year. LW seems very shallow.

bearcats
09-05-2011, 07:26 PM
LW is not deep at all so try to get a stud LW early and then you can wait till middle of draft for morrow/burrows and the like and wait till late late to get laich/ennis type...elias seems to be pretty low as well...also ray whitney is dropping almost out of the 12 teamers

ya high end c's are becoming scarce.....try to get one of gets/sedin/backstrom/stamkos/malkin etc early and then you can sit on C's till the middle/late rounds

RW depth is really good both high/medium and late depths

Dmen are there but some are going high and some are sinking bigtime...

top 8 goalies seem to be going quick and even 8 - 16 are gone midway through the draft it seems

definatly some gems out there....

I think Berglund could be a big sleeper this year..

Skate or Die
09-05-2011, 11:04 PM
LW may be shallow, but its deeper than in past years.

What really changed is C. Its really seeming quite shallow in studs. Losing Datsyuk and Zetterberg plus the question marks around Crosby and Malkin really changed things.

If you're not carefull, you could reach for RW and miss a golden opportunity to have 2 stud C's and end up with Toews/Stastny as your 1-2...which isn't bad, but its not worth reaching for Chris Stewart or something when Doan/Hemsky/etc are sitting there at the end of the draft.

canuckcorbin
09-06-2011, 06:47 PM
My list of Yahoo! players who I feel should be ranked much higher:

#94 Spezza
#112 Pronger
#113 Hossa
#124 M.Koivu
#130 Cammalerri
#165 Hornton
#169 Gonchar
#183 Selanne
#184 Elias
#221 Alfredsson
#241 Andy McDonald
#242 Samuelsson
#248 Ray Whitney
#262 Matt Carle
#268 Simon Gagne
#288 Perron
#313 Hemsky
#320 Peter Mueller
#331 S.Kostitsyn
#342 S.Koivu
#344 Schenn (think he's ready?)
#345 Arnott
#346 Prospal
#377 Lupul
#394 Langenbrunner
#401 Fleischmann
#514 Matt Cullen
#521 Rolston
#632 Sami Salo

Goalies
#215 Rask
#232 Nabokov (Sounds like he wants to play)
#277 Nittymaki
#328 Dekanich (Steve Masons backup........)
#380 Gigi
#402 Ellis (Depending on Hiller's health)
#553 Emery (if Hawks sign him)
#566 Markstrom (maybe...)

Buckethead
09-08-2011, 05:49 PM
Prospal @ 346 is insane. 82 games nets 60+ points with ease.

Raja
09-08-2011, 06:32 PM
Columbus is getting crowded, you think so? Carter, Nash, Brassard are locks, but Prospal, Calvert, Umberger, Vermette, and when he's healthy Huselius will all have to fight for a top 6 spot.

346 is definitely a steal for Prospal, but I don't think he'll get more than 50.

Rocklobster
09-08-2011, 07:03 PM
LW C RW

Prospal Carter Nash
Umberger Vermette Brassard


all three on the second line can play C though right? so I'm sure there will be a lot of shuffling of the lines. I don't know if calvert will break the top 6 though.

bearcats
09-08-2011, 07:18 PM
LW C RW

Prospal Carter Nash
Umberger Vermette Brassard


all three on the second line can play C though right? so I'm sure there will be a lot of shuffling of the lines. I don't know if calvert will break the top 6 though.

I hear umberger is likely going to be dealt for a need...

looch17
09-09-2011, 12:14 AM
I love this and the mock draft thread. Both have been very helpful so far. As always great stuff here at HI!

Buckethead
09-11-2011, 11:52 PM
Columbus is getting crowded, you think so? Carter, Nash, Brassard are locks, but Prospal, Calvert, Umberger, Vermette, and when he's healthy Huselius will all have to fight for a top 6 spot.

346 is definitely a steal for Prospal, but I don't think he'll get more than 50.

Prospal is their 3rd best offensive option after Carter and Nash. IMO no chance he's out of the top 6.

looch17
09-15-2011, 09:52 AM
Who are some good D to get late in the draft? Are there any hidden gems for that position??

toronto1979
09-15-2011, 10:42 AM
Who are some good D to get late in the draft? Are there any hidden gems for that position??
Kaberle should have a good rebound year playing with his brother.
Markov will miss a couple weeks but should play well.
Same with Streit but he's ranked pretty high.

Beyond that you're taking gambles on guys like Ian White.

looch17
09-15-2011, 10:44 AM
Thanks toronto, but I am talking even later than that.

toronto1979
09-15-2011, 10:50 AM
Thanks toronto, but I am talking even later than that.
Grant Clitsome
MAB
Ryan Ellis
Stefan Elliott
Adam Larsson
Simon Despres

D is a pretty deep position, it's easy to grab a 30 point Dman off the FA list - I actually like go snag a goon like Carkner for a D position. I'd rather get 150 PIMs from a #4 D than 30 points.

phaneuf6
09-15-2011, 10:53 AM
Pretty sure Kaberle's brother is long gone.

toronto1979
09-15-2011, 12:05 PM
Pretty sure Kaberle's brother is long gone.
Damn you're right. Well I guess that's good for the Hurricanes. They don't even have to order extra jersey's. Just dust off Frantisek's for Tomas.

bearcats
09-15-2011, 04:37 PM
Who are some good D to get late in the draft? Are there any hidden gems for that position??

souray alongside goligoski could net a bunch of Goals...and PIMS
bieksa
mcbain
white (lidstrom partner according to yahoo notes)
gragnani (sp?)
carle
staal
gonchar seems to be there at the end
weidman

looch17
09-15-2011, 07:24 PM
Good names there bearcats. I am doing a mock as we speak in a minute so I will try for some of those in this draft.

birdbrains
09-15-2011, 07:30 PM
Hemsky @ 313 is unreal. He's actually dropped to 314 somehow lol..

How deep are LW / RW this year. Particularly depth vs. high end.

High-end centres seem to be scarcer than ever. The position is always deep, but there just aren't as many top top C as usual. Datsyuk is a LW for some retarded reason.


yeah ...why is he LW...shouldnt he be both...?do you think that will change?

boredguy
09-15-2011, 10:03 PM
Yahoo never removes eligibility during a season only adds. So Datsyuk could get C at a later point but won't have the LW taken away this year.

bearcats
09-15-2011, 10:05 PM
yahoo never removes eligibility during a season only adds. So datsyuk could get c at a later point but won't have the lw taken away this year.

+1

bearcats
09-18-2011, 10:28 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AjO_2aslpKxZV6ir2nD_1JJivLYF?slug=rotowi re-ojtekolskioethotatop

wolski gets a shot as the lw on the richards/gabby line....

bearcats
09-18-2011, 10:30 AM
rene bourque got lw/rw yesterday from yahoo....

thehockeyguy79
09-18-2011, 10:44 PM
Who are some good D to get late in the draft? Are there any hidden gems for that position??


Ian White is going to have a great year this year. You can take that to the bank.

Roy Hinske
09-18-2011, 11:17 PM
Ian White is going to have a great year this year. You can take that to the bank.

I'm sure he'll be around quite late in the draft too.;)

Cornholio
09-18-2011, 11:29 PM
brian campbell and jovocop should be the panthers' first defensive pairing, and they sometimes didn't get drafted at all in the mock drafts i did.
alec martinez from LA hardly ever gets picked
minnesota D zidlicky has the ability to put up 50 points, if he stays healthy.
some other sleepers are matt taormina (NJD), who hasn't resigned yet i think, and andrew macdonald (NYI), who's coming off a good first year.

Raja
09-18-2011, 11:59 PM
brian campbell and jovocop should be the panthers' first defensive pairing, and they sometimes didn't get drafted at all in the mock drafts i did.
alec martinez from LA hardly ever gets picked
minnesota D zidlicky has the ability to put up 50 points, if he stays healthy.
some other sleepers are matt taormina (NJD), who hasn't resigned yet i think, and andrew macdonald (NYI), who's coming off a good first year.

agreed on campbell, he should be a huge steal. pretty sure there's a good reason martinez isn't getting picked though :confused: it'd have to be a pretty deep league I think. taormina did re-sign for one year.

Cornholio
09-19-2011, 07:24 AM
I had Martínez in a farm team league last year, and He is on LA's 2nd PP unit

boredguy
10-01-2011, 12:59 PM
Bumpity

Vman88
10-05-2011, 09:04 PM
Looks like Yahoo changed all the rankings. The gems you guys pointed out may be no longer and some may be overranked. Haven't had time to check.

In my case, my league is an autodraft (I know, I know) and I had all my prerank changes set up. Don't know if I want to take Crosby at 16, but I surely would have bumping him up from the 70s where he was into the 60s or 50s ;)

bearcats
10-06-2011, 10:51 PM
heads up for those looking for a Power forward type that has pts and pims......Simmonds took Hartnells spot on the second line tonight and played very well.....I watched the game and was reading some of the thread on the Philly board...just speculation obviously but it seems like Hartnell may be a moveable pieces as the flyers brass really like what they see from Simmonds...

keep him on your watch list.....

$T$
10-07-2011, 08:13 AM
With Erhoff gone in Van I think Bieksa qualifies as a sleeper. Especially if your league counts PIMS and Hits. Should be on the top pp unit as well.

jblaze66
10-07-2011, 08:37 AM
Hemsky is still available in my league should I drop one of my other forwards for him??

chadw01
10-07-2011, 08:37 AM
With Erhoff gone in Van I think Bieksa qualifies as a sleeper. Especially if your league counts PIMS and Hits. Should be on the top pp unit as well.

Edler is the PP QB - Bieksa is competing with Salo for that second spot, isn't he?

chadw01
10-07-2011, 08:40 AM
Hemsky is still available in my league should I drop one of my other forwards for him??

Umberger

bearcats
10-07-2011, 08:46 AM
Edler is the PP QB - Bieksa is competing with Salo for that second spot, isn't he?

sammuelson was PP1 on the point last night FYI, but ya bieksa should see an increase in PP and points

lektrix
10-07-2011, 10:17 AM
heads up for those looking for a Power forward type that has pts and pims......Simmonds took Hartnells spot on the second line tonight and played very well.....I watched the game and was reading some of the thread on the Philly board...just speculation obviously but it seems like Hartnell may be a moveable pieces as the flyers brass really like what they see from Simmonds...

keep him on your watch list.....

Interesting. SO Simmonds is playing LW?

bearcats
10-07-2011, 09:56 PM
Interesting. SO Simmonds is playing LW?

well actually it seems both simmonds and hartnell played on the RW last night..simm on the 2nd line and hart on the 3rd line...

Jake
10-08-2011, 11:30 AM
Hudler didnt do SHIT last year, but he is seeing a lot of time with Dats and Babcock has said nothing but good things about his preseason

Gern Blansten
10-08-2011, 10:15 PM
well actually it seems both simmonds and hartnell played on the RW last night..simm on the 2nd line and hart on the 3rd line...

What's the deal with Hartnell on the third line?

bearcats
10-08-2011, 10:19 PM
What's the deal with Hartnell on the third line?

seems that simmonds has replaced hartnell as the top 6 power forward.......I picked Simmonds up in 1 league already.....watch him...or take him...before someone else does.....

jblaze66
10-10-2011, 08:09 AM
Simmonds and Luke Adams are both avail on WW in my league but I can't make any more moves until next week. Are these two guys I should be targeting or do I have better options on my team as is?

Raja
10-10-2011, 09:59 AM
drop Greiss for somebody.

jblaze66
10-10-2011, 10:07 AM
drop Greiss for somebody.

Because of my league's crazy scoring system (SV worth 1 pt each) I was planning on going with four goalies all year. I was going to drop Griess for another goalie like Garon or Hedberg.

looch17
10-14-2011, 08:53 PM
A guy to watch in deeper leagues is Carcillo. At least for now. He is playing with Kane and Hossa, did well the other night and from all the stuff I have read he plans to be smarter with his fights. He was last night he got challenged by Stuart and declined because it wasn't the smart thing to do at the time. You know and I know he will get his fair share of PIMs, but if he can stay on that line and smarten up he could make for a sneaky pickup in deeper leagues.