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ovechkin
02-09-2011, 05:31 PM
Does anyone here ever bet on hockey games? I'm sure at least some of you might be familiar with cent sports, but I'd like to invite those of you who are not to join.
Basically it's free betting (so completely legal) and in theory you can end up winning money. I've actually gotten $15 from their other cite CentPoker, and I have almost $18 in my sports account right now.
On a related note, I think it would be interesting (for whoever would like to share their opinions) if there was some sort of thread (daily or not) that people could recommend daily bets. On this site you can only bet on the winner and over/under for goals, but people familiar with how two teams have fared in the past could offer support for others.
In any case, here's the link to sign up, and if you use this to sign up I can get I think 5% referral bonus on what you guys win.
http://www.centsports.com/ref/764882/Clay_M

dw13
02-09-2011, 05:33 PM
Oh lord. Queuing Kamboard's bloating about how he makes a living off his hockey bets.

3...2...1...Go Kam.

price+huet=success
02-09-2011, 05:51 PM
i find hockey impossibly frustrating to bet on. so much parity and wacky games, scores, whatnot. though of course it makes watching more entertaining. it was nice in vancouver that you could bet at any convenience store

ovechkin
02-09-2011, 06:00 PM
i find hockey impossibly frustrating to bet on. so much parity and wacky games, scores, whatnot. though of course it makes watching more entertaining. it was nice in vancouver that you could bet at any convenience store
That's what makes it good that you can't lose money with this site. But it definitely does make games more fun to watch. Daniel Sedin is not enough to make me watch Vancouver play, but if I've also got $20 on the game, I'm definitely going to watch.

nyrblue2
02-09-2011, 06:38 PM
http://forums.hockeyinformer.com/showthread.php?t=60526

housenuts
02-09-2011, 07:49 PM
also lol at referral code. thanks clay m

phiflyers2003
02-09-2011, 08:13 PM
Most online sport websites i feel far as betting games are scams, i just recently signed up for betus.com i deposit $500 because they advertised on another website they match up to $500 so i figure i'll spend $1000 on superbowl no big deal but found out the ad was suppose to be removed a week earlier so i got stuck with the $500. but because i got a $50 free play the rollover requirement is $1652, so i can't cash out until i've basically spent or won that amount. And its only on certain bets that your money gets credit towards the rollover requirement. Good thing is though if you dont accept the bonus you can cash out whenever you want, like wtf why would i want a bonus if most likely ill just end up losing that money with having to have some incredible luck to get it up to that amount. :mad:

housenuts
02-09-2011, 08:35 PM
ya you gotta read the terms and conditions closely. i've bet a lot online and lots have "high" rollover requirements, but they at least honour their terms.

i deposited to betdsi over the holidays and they had a 300% holiday bonus. i read all the terms, and they never credited me with the bonus because i deposited with moneybookers. nowhere in their terms for the holiday bonus did it state this wouldn't qualify.

it did say this for their other various bonuses, but not for the holiday bonus. we got in a large argument, they never credited me, and i basically told them to f themselves. the funny thing is they still call me and email me with various promotions and i tell them to f off until i get my 300% bonus.

such a crappy company. you'd think customer service would be important to them but instead they chose to lose a customer, and receive bad press, rather than credit me with the small amount of a bonus that their crappy webmasters were unable to show in their terms and conditions.

keyboard
02-09-2011, 11:33 PM
Oh lord. Queuing Kamboard's bloating about how he makes a living off his hockey bets.

3...2...1...Go Kam.
:lol:

WIS
02-10-2011, 02:16 AM
Does anyone here ever bet on hockey games? I'm sure at least some of you might be familiar with cent sports, but I'd like to invite those of you who are not to join.
Basically it's free betting (so completely legal) and in theory you can end up winning money. I've actually gotten $15 from their other cite CentPoker, and I have almost $18 in my sports account right now.
On a related note, I think it would be interesting (for whoever would like to share their opinions) if there was some sort of thread (daily or not) that people could recommend daily bets. On this site you can only bet on the winner and over/under for goals, but people familiar with how two teams have fared in the past could offer support for others.
In any case, here's the link to sign up, and if you use this to sign up I can get I think 5% referral bonus on what you guys win.
http://www.centsports.com/ref/764882/Clay_M
Why wouldn't anybody just sign up by themselves instead of using this? Why should we be so nice :lol:

keyboard
02-10-2011, 03:09 AM
Why would anyone sign up to win pennies? That's the better question.

If you guys want each night we could post a list of the games we think will win and I can take all the majority teams and do a $1 parlay. I'll do it 10 times before giving up.

Raja
02-10-2011, 08:06 AM
I've used cents sports before, it's nothing more than fun really. I'd always get 10 or 15 bucks and get greedy/confident and do it all one bet and lose, but I'm sure if you played it safe you could get legitimate amounts of money pretty quickly (no fun though!). If I remember right there's a weird catch to cashing out there too though, but I don't know what exactly anymore.

madsci
02-10-2011, 10:09 AM
I've used cents sports before, it's nothing more than fun really. I'd always get 10 or 15 bucks and get greedy/confident and do it all one bet and lose, but I'm sure if you played it safe you could get legitimate amounts of money pretty quickly (no fun though!). If I remember right there's a weird catch to cashing out there too though, but I don't know what exactly anymore.

lol - this was exactly my experience. The only thing I liked about it was being able to trash talk my friends who were on there about how I was better than them. It was fun for a while then I stopped.

ovechkin
02-10-2011, 01:08 PM
I've used cents sports before, it's nothing more than fun really. I'd always get 10 or 15 bucks and get greedy/confident and do it all one bet and lose, but I'm sure if you played it safe you could get legitimate amounts of money pretty quickly (no fun though!). If I remember right there's a weird catch to cashing out there too though, but I don't know what exactly anymore.

I lost $18 on Vancouver last night...

WIS
02-10-2011, 02:44 PM
I lost $18 on Vancouver last night...
You got greedy didn't you. So how does the cashing out work anyway?

Raja
02-10-2011, 02:57 PM
It's something like, you need a minimum of 20 dollars (you start with 10 cents, for free, every time you reach 0), but only a certain amount of people get cashed out every week, based on priority of waiting, or amount? If I remember right. Basically the more money you have the easier it is to cash out I believe, unless I remember wrong or it was changed.

madsci
02-10-2011, 03:04 PM
It's something like, you need a minimum of 20 dollars (you start with 10 cents, for free, every time you reach 0), but only a certain amount of people get cashed out every week, based on priority of waiting, or amount? If I remember right. Basically the more money you have the easier it is to cash out I believe, unless I remember wrong or it was changed.

That's how I remember it. The priority based on how much you have. They have a set amount of money to give out each week and they distribute it until it's gone.

IC!
02-12-2011, 07:03 PM
Most online sport websites i feel far as betting games are scams, i just recently signed up for betus.com i deposit $500 because they advertised on another website they match up to $500 so i figure i'll spend $1000 on superbowl no big deal but found out the ad was suppose to be removed a week earlier so i got stuck with the $500. but because i got a $50 free play the rollover requirement is $1652, so i can't cash out until i've basically spent or won that amount. And its only on certain bets that your money gets credit towards the rollover requirement. Good thing is though if you dont accept the bonus you can cash out whenever you want, like wtf why would i want a bonus if most likely ill just end up losing that money with having to have some incredible luck to get it up to that amount. :mad:

I use sportsinteraction.com and I won just over a thousand dollars one year on the superbowl. They sent the payout check in two weeks or so. I was very happy. Of course I haven't won shit since. :confused:

In short, I recommend them.

phiflyers2003
02-12-2011, 09:47 PM
Sportsinteraction i heard is pretty good, but for anyone interested. sportsbookreview.com grades all the online sportsbooks, def avoid anything below a c if you check out the ratings, problem is the winners gettign their money if your a loser at one of the websites their nice as anything to you. $524 into my rollover requirement but left with $270, but i made three bets involving who would win the eastern and western conference for basketball which amounted to $150 so i won't know for a couple months if i'll win them bets.

Chilly_Willy
02-12-2011, 09:49 PM
If you just bet redwings to win each game all 82 games wouldn't you make money?

Doctego
02-12-2011, 10:13 PM
If you just bet redwings to win each game all 82 games wouldn't you make money?

I out of the loop on this but here are my thoughts. I don't think that you can bet goals any longer. What I mean is that a favorite used to be favored by 1 1/2 goals, for instance. They could potentially still win the game but you would lose if they only won by 1 goal. I used to bet this way a lot and ENG used to kill me a lot. Now, you bet odds. A team like Detroit would pretty much always be a decent favorite. Whether they would be -120, -140, -200, whatever, you lose more than you bet whenever they lose. Whatever the minus number is, that's what you risk per $100 that you would potentially win on that bet. If that's not clear (it's been a long day), let's say that you bet on the Wings at -160. That means that you are laying $160 to win $100. They win and you get your $100. They lose and you're out $160. So, you can't just assume that, since Detroit wins a lot, they would be a solid team to bet on every night.

Off the top of my head, the Wings have 33 wins this season and 22 losses, including OT. If they were average favorites of -150 in all of their games this season, you would have broken even, assuming that you bet the same amount on every game.

Chilly_Willy
02-12-2011, 10:17 PM
Makes sense, that would explain why house wins even though there are teams that win more than they loose most every season

keyboard
02-12-2011, 10:31 PM
I out of the loop on this but here are my thoughts. I don't think that you can bet goals any longer. What I mean is that a favorite used to be favored by 1 1/2 goals, for instance. They could potentially still win the game but you would lose if they only won by 1 goal.
Unless I'm reading that wrong you can still bet it, it's called a Puck Line bet.

Doctego
02-13-2011, 08:42 AM
Unless I'm reading that wrong you can still bet it, it's called a Puck Line bet.

The book that I used stop doing that years ago and just went to odds. Guess I figured that most or all also did that.

keyboard
02-13-2011, 11:51 AM
The book that I used stop doing that years ago and just went to odds. Guess I figured that most or all also did that.
That is very odd. ML and PL are the two standard bets across all books. The bet that is actually the better than PL is a regulation bet/-0.5, which means your team has to win in regulation. Odds are really great.

WIS
03-10-2011, 02:34 PM
Does anyone here ever bet on hockey games? I'm sure at least some of you might be familiar with cent sports, but I'd like to invite those of you who are not to join.
Basically it's free betting (so completely legal) and in theory you can end up winning money. I've actually gotten $15 from their other cite CentPoker, and I have almost $18 in my sports account right now.
On a related note, I think it would be interesting (for whoever would like to share their opinions) if there was some sort of thread (daily or not) that people could recommend daily bets. On this site you can only bet on the winner and over/under for goals, but people familiar with how two teams have fared in the past could offer support for others.
In any case, here's the link to sign up, and if you use this to sign up I can get I think 5% referral bonus on what you guys win.
http://www.centsports.com/ref/764882/Clay_M
OK, so I'm new to this and I was wondering how this works. For example these are today's bets: What is the +/-, over/under and the 5/5.5? How would you make these bets and what do they mean? To get a better format of what I am talking about go to http://www.centsports.com/place_bet and click on the hockey link
Mar 10 @ 7:05pm Hockey - NHL
5.5



o (-115)
u (-105)




Philadelphia Flyers
-
-150



Toronto Maple Leafs
-
+130




Mar 10 @ 7:05pm Hockey - NHL
5.5



o (+125)
u (-145)




Buffalo Sabres
-
+150



Boston Bruins
-
-170





Mar 10 @ 7:35pm Hockey - NHL
5



o (-130)
u (+110)




Ottawa Senators
-
+120



Florida Panthers
-
-140





Mar 10 @ 8:05pm Hockey - NHL
5



o (-105)
u (-115)




Minnesota Wild
-
+140



Nashville Predators
-
-160





Mar 10 @ 8:05pm Hockey - NHL
5.5



o (+125)
u (-145)




Montreal Canadiens
-
-130



St. Louis Blues
-
+110





Mar 10 @ 9:05pm Hockey - NHL
5.5



o (+105)
u (-125)




Calgary Flames
-
+115



Phoenix Coyotes
-
-135





Mar 10 @ 10:35pm Hockey - NHL
5.5



o (+120)
u (-140)




Vancouver Canucks
-
+110



San Jose Sharks
-
-130

keyboard
03-10-2011, 03:23 PM
Let's look at one example since they are all the same format.


o (-115)
u (-105)

Philadelphia Flyers
-
-150
Toronto Maple Leafs
-
+130O stands for Over and U for Under on the total score of the game including overtime (unless otherwise stated). The three digit numbers are the odds. If it's a positive number that's the underdog, negative for the favourite. So in this case, PHI is a -150 favourite and the Over is a bigger favourite than the under, both of which aren't underdog bets because of the negative number.

PHI -150 implies if you bet 150, you would win 100.

TOR +130 implies if you bet 100, you would win 130.

Hope that clears it up.

WIS
03-11-2011, 10:32 PM
Let's look at one example since they are all the same format.

O stands for Over and U for Under on the total score of the game including overtime (unless otherwise stated). The three digit numbers are the odds. If it's a positive number that's the underdog, negative for the favourite. So in this case, PHI is a -150 favourite and the Over is a bigger favourite than the under, both of which aren't underdog bets because of the negative number.

PHI -150 implies if you bet 150, you would win 100.

TOR +130 implies if you bet 100, you would win 130.

Hope that clears it up.
What is the bench mark for the total score?
Also, I don't get a part of the last line.

phaneuf6
03-11-2011, 10:57 PM
What is the bench mark for the total score?


They'll usually give you a number...hockey most of the time is 5.5

Doctego
03-12-2011, 12:08 PM
What is the bench mark for the total score?
Also, I don't get a part of the last line.

In his example, the over was -115 and the under was -105. None is an "underdog" bet because they are both technically favorites. Slim favorites but favorites nonetheless. You have to lay $115 and $105, respectively, to win $100. Another tactic for the book to make money.

housenuts
03-12-2011, 12:17 PM
You could say the over is the favorite because it's -115 and more likely to happen than the under which is -105. this is how the sportsbooks make money though. they essentially can't lose.

you'll see bets like on the coinflip for the superbowl that are
heads -105
tails -105

Doctego
03-12-2011, 12:30 PM
they essentially can't lose.

Agreed as long as they accomplish their goal of getting equal action on both sides.

WIS
03-13-2011, 10:47 PM
They'll usually give you a number...hockey most of the time is 5.5
:beer:

In his example, the over was -115 and the under was -105. None is an "underdog" bet because they are both technically favorites. Slim favorites but favorites nonetheless. You have to lay $115 and $105, respectively, to win $100. Another tactic for the book to make money.
I don't know if it's the wording of the whole thing, but housenuts is technically saying the opposite of what you're saying, no?

You could say the over is the favorite because it's -115 and more likely to happen than the under which is -105. this is how the sportsbooks make money though. they essentially can't lose.

you'll see bets like on the coinflip for the superbowl that are
heads -105
tails -105
:dunno:

Should be easy, but I'm not getting something.

keyboard
03-13-2011, 11:38 PM
Just imagine it like this:

If you see - (favourite) in front of a number that's how much you NEED TO RISK to win $100.

If you see + (underdog) in front of a number that's how much you win if you RISK $100.

-130 is $130 to win $100.

+165 is $100 to win $165.

Doctego
03-14-2011, 08:58 AM
I don't know if it's the wording of the whole thing, but housenuts is technically saying the opposite of what you're saying, no?

Let me clarify it more for you. I also need to add that you are way overthinking this.

We are saying similar things but the semantics seem to be confusing matters here. In the original example, we had the following odds:

o (-115)
u (-105)

Now, both are actually favorites because the odds are -115 and -105, respectively. Any time that you see a minus, that is the amount that you have to put up to win $100. Any time that you see a minus, that is a favorite. Conversely, a plus (+) means an underdog. You need to lay $100 to win the plus amount meaning +130 would win you $130 on a $100 bet.

Back to the semantics.......I am saying that both the over and the under are favorites because they both have minus odds. What housenuts is doing is saying that the under is less of a favorite because of the odds (-115 vs. -105).

WIS
03-15-2011, 01:07 PM
Just imagine it like this:

If you see - (favourite) in front of a number that's how much you NEED TO RISK to win $100.

If you see + (underdog) in front of a number that's how much you win if you RISK $100.

-130 is $130 to win $100.

+165 is $100 to win $165.
Thanks man. I got it.

Let me clarify it more for you. I also need to add that you are way overthinking this.

We are saying similar things but the semantics seem to be confusing matters here. In the original example, we had the following odds:

o (-115)
u (-105)

Now, both are actually favorites because the odds are -115 and -105, respectively. Any time that you see a minus, that is the amount that you have to put up to win $100. Any time that you see a minus, that is a favorite. Conversely, a plus (+) means an underdog. You need to lay $100 to win the plus amount meaning +130 would win you $130 on a $100 bet.

Back to the semantics.......I am saying that both the over and the under are favorites because they both have minus odds. What housenuts is doing is saying that the under is less of a favorite because of the odds (-115 vs. -105).
You're absolutely right, I was over thinking things. Thanks.