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King_Killah
06-09-2008, 06:51 PM
Running back by committee??? Rudi's value to drop.



Source: Geoff Hobson, Bengals.com
Cincinnati Bengals OC Bob Bratkowski has made a plan to utilize his stable of RBs, yet still giving Rudi Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnRu00-1.php) the lions share of the carries. He plans on using RBs Chris Perry, DeDe Dorsey (http://www.footballguys.com/DorsDe00-1.php), Kenny Watson (http://www.footballguys.com/WatsKe00-1.php) in a back-by-committee approach, but still chaired by Johnson. How that correlates to Johnson's numbers is not clear.

FlyGuy78
06-09-2008, 08:52 PM
Watson should be the man behind Rudi.

King_Killah
06-09-2008, 09:32 PM
Watson should be the man behind Rudi.

Yeah, I agree... Perry is a good back if he can stay healthy and out of trouble.

King_Killah
06-16-2008, 12:12 AM
Chad Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnCh01-1.php) was bouncing around the locker room again Friday after the morning practice, high-fiving greetings to some reporters and wondering why everyone said he was mad on Thursday.
"I'm happy," he said. "I was happy yesterday.

"I don't have anything to be mad about."

But he wasn't talking on the record, so when he's going to get back to practice and when/if he's going to get ankle surgery is up to speculation.

But before the lightning came to blow away the afternoon practice, Johnson ran his first routes of the camp, albeit only a handful.

Let's see when the games start to count and mean something.

King_Killah
06-17-2008, 01:16 PM
Info on DeDe Dorsey...


Cincinnati Bengals RB DeDe Dorsey (http://www.footballguys.com/DorsDe00-1.php)'s severely strained hamstring will keep him out until training camp, and the prevailing thought is that he'll be limited when training camp begins July 28th

Not sure how many fantasy teams he'll end up on, but could bump up the value in Rudi and Watson a little more with one less RB in the committee to deal with.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
06-18-2008, 05:36 AM
Bengals wide receiver Chad Johnson (javascript:fantasyPopup('nfl', 5483)) will have surgery to remove bone chips from his ankle. Johnson will undergo the procedure on Wednesday, The NFL Network reports.


Johnson, who went through the full series of drills during the team's last day of minicamp on last Saturday after noting that he was having pain in his right ankle earlier in the week. He expected to be ready to go health-wise when the Bengals have their first day of training camp practice in Georgetown, Ky., on July 28.

Dubz
06-18-2008, 07:13 PM
Im staying the hell out of Cincy come draft day!

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
06-18-2008, 08:54 PM
Im staying the hell out of Cincy come draft day!



I wonder how far Palmer sinks in drafts this year...


Palmer and TJ are still tempting... no?

King_Killah
06-18-2008, 10:55 PM
I wonder how far Palmer sinks in drafts this year...


Palmer and TJ are still tempting... no?

Yes. ...and I wouldn't count Ocho Cinco too far out either. Although promising us 16 different TD celebrations to go with his guaranteed 1 TD a week didn't pan out, he did have a career high in receiving yards last year. All while TJ Housh stepped up and stole some Cinco thunder and Ocho playing hurt. Contract drama may drop his value in this year's drafts, but really shouldn't. Money is very important to Chad Johnson. If he holds out, not only does he not get a paycheck he gets fined.

The question mark in Cincy is their run game. Rudi still leads the pack, but Cincy looks to be moving to more of a three-headed attack.

Dubz
06-18-2008, 11:25 PM
Yes. ...and I wouldn't count Ocho Cinco too far out either. Although promising us 16 different TD celebrations to go with his guaranteed 1 TD a week didn't pan out, he did have a career high in receiving yards last year. All while TJ Housh stepped up and stole some Cinco thunder and Ocho playing hurt. Contract drama may drop his value in this year's drafts, but really shouldn't. Money is very important to Chad Johnson. If he holds out, not only does he not get a paycheck he gets fined.

The question mark in Cincy is their run game. Rudi still leads the pack, but Cincy looks to be moving to more of a three-headed attack.

IS CINCY!!....Surely I would agree with the King most times but eh....Im feeling the Rudy train has run its course and they wont save that QB. Guess we will see.

King_Killah
06-19-2008, 08:24 AM
IS CINCY!!....Surely I would agree with the King most times but eh....Im feeling the Rudy train has run its course and they wont save that QB. Guess we will see.

I agree that the Rudi train has run its course, which is why they are planning on the three-headed run attack. But as long as Rudi is healthy, he will still take the majority of the touches, even if its 40%-30%-30%.

Palmer is still a top level QB and his receivers are top flight. I don't really see a reason to bail on them altogether.

Dubz
06-19-2008, 08:52 PM
Well you guys are probably right....I was bit by these guys last year and will be hellbent not to do it again. I drafted Palmer and Oucho 14/15th in a 14 teamer. Hopefully I get a better pick this year.

I wont be able to "steal" Marion Barber this year...so I may have to draft a QB later.

We need a fantasy football draft ranking/sleeper picks thread:idea:

Dubz
06-25-2008, 10:48 AM
I keep finding Oucho available in the third round and cant resist during Mocks :dunno:

King_Killah
06-28-2008, 02:54 PM
I keep finding Oucho available in the third round and cant resist during Mocks :dunno:


To date.... 85's average spot is #32 overall. From places I have seen, he has gone as early as 25 and as late as 43.

King_Killah
07-08-2008, 04:00 PM
Some Ocho Cinco word...


Geoff Hobson of Bengals.com is reporting that Cincinnati Bengals WR Chad Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnCh01-1.php) is already running on the beach in Miami, less than three weeks after having arthroscopic surgery on both ankles. "He feels a lot better than when he first had (the surgery), but we're not going to push it. The key is not to let him do too much too soon," said Charles Collins, who is helping coach the Bengals receivers this offseason. "He's got to build up his ankle first. Then the closer we get to camp, we'll let him time up some things in the last couple of workouts."

King_Killah
07-15-2008, 11:40 AM
Chris Henry - guess this really doesn't go here since he isn't a Bengal anymore, but...


Assault charges against former Cincinnati Bengal Chris Henry (http://www.footballguys.com/HenrCh01-1.php) were dropped Monday. Henry was accused of punching a University of Cincinnati student earlier this year. Another charge that he threw a bottle at the man's car was dropped during Henry's first trial. The prosecutor's office had asked the judge last week to keep three pieces of information out of the new trial. However, on Monday, the judge refused to keep the information out of court proceedings. Shortly thereafter, the prosecutor's office dropped the case with prejudice.

With charges dropped, Henry will likely be reinstated. This will allow him to sign with a team, and there are plenty of them that will take a chance on him. I would imagine he would sign an incentive based contract, so you could expect him to perform well for a few games...but anything more than that is being very optimistic!

King_Killah
07-18-2008, 02:28 PM
A little more on Henry.




Former Cincinnati Bengals WR Chris Henry (http://www.footballguys.com/HenrCh01-1.php)'s legal issues are behind him - for now - and he could possibly be reinstated. According to Henry and his agent Marvin Frazier, a return to the Bengals is a possibility. "We have interest in several teams, including Cincinnati," Frazier said. Frazier says it's still early in the process, but the Bengals have shown preliminary interest in Henry since his assault charge was dropped. Henry says he wouldn't hold any grudges against the organization that drafted him in 2005. In fact, he would welcome a return to the Bengals with open arms.
"Going back to the Bengals is possible,'' Henry said. "I wouldn't mind it happening because I loved playing in Cincinnati. I got real close with all the guys out there and I planned on being out there for a long time. I really had a good time playing ball out there in Ohio."

Would it surprise me greatly if Henry ends up back in Cincinnati??

King_Killah
07-18-2008, 02:34 PM
Ocho Cinco....


Bengals WR Chad Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnCh01-1.php) said he plans on taking his time in returning from arthroscopic ankle surgery. He is currently able to run in a straight line, but has held off cutting and running routes. Johnson said he isn't sure if he'll be ready by next week. "I'm going to make sure I don't come back too fast," he said. "I don't want to overdo it. Because when I go out there I'm going to forget it and just go 100 percent. They're going to have to pull me out."

Worries about his ankle, or games with management?? Hmmm... If it really is the injury thing, I am not worried. Chad Johnson is typically a quick healer. What this may do is drive his draft value down some, so you may be able to get him at a bargain from the people who worry if your draft is done or if you haven't drafted yet, he may slide down the draft board a little.

King_Killah
07-18-2008, 02:35 PM
Kenny Irons....


Nobody knows yet when Bengals second-year RB Kenny Irons will be able to return from last year's season-ending knee injury, though there is some speculation that he may be placed on the PUP list to start the 2008 season. While the outcome remains to be seen, Irons is pushing his body to recover quickly. "Whatever I have to do to get back on the field, I'm going to do it,' Irons said. "I don't care what it is. This has been very frustrating. Very tough."

Wow...multiple news articles coming out of Cincinnati today... Kenny Irons... Uh, Chris Perry will have better fantasy numbers than Kenny Irons, healthy or not.

King_Killah
07-31-2008, 04:04 PM
WR Chad Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnCh01-1.php) reported to Cincinnati Bengals training camp Sunday. The wide receiver did not answer any questions as he continues his boycott of the Cincinnati media.

Chad Johnson is a piece of work! He loves the camera too much for the "boycott" to last too long!

Hockeyis#1
08-01-2008, 09:46 AM
Chad Johnson is a piece of work! He loves the camera too much for the "boycott" to last too long!

Aren't you rec'd to answer questions from the media?!

King_Killah
08-01-2008, 10:51 AM
Somebody will replace Chris Henry (http://www.footballguys.com/HenrCh01-1.php), who was cut in April, as the Bengals' No. 3 wide receiver behind Chad Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnCh01-1.php) and T.J. Houshmandzadeh (http://www.footballguys.com/HousTJ00-1.php).

Whom shall it be? Marcus Maxwell (http://www.footballguys.com/MaxwMa00-1.php), Jerome Simpson (http://www.footballguys.com/SimpJe00-1.php), Andre Caldwell (http://www.footballguys.com/CaldAn00-1.php), Glenn Holt (http://www.footballguys.com/HoltGl00-1.php) and Antonio Chatman (http://www.footballguys.com/ChatAn00-1.php) are all in the mix.

With one of the NFL's top QB's, the Bengals #3 WR will likely be worth of a roster spot on your team. Wait 'til this mess is sorted out first.

King_Killah
08-01-2008, 11:17 AM
Bengals RB Rudi Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnRu00-1.php) set his goal this offseason to add weight, specifically to his legs and lower body in order to stave off nagging injuries. Johnson - limited to 11 games and 497 rushing yards last season, his fewest since 2002 - returned to his former body type and running style that made him one of the NFL's most productive backs from 2004-06, when he rushed for more than 4,200 yards and 36 touchdowns. Johnson worked with Bengals strength coaches Chip Morton and Ray Oliver and reported to camp at 230 pounds (up from 212 last season), while trimming his body fat. "Mainly, I got a lot of leg power back. I feel stronger getting in and out of my cuts," Johnson said. "I can feel it every time I cut. It's just there."

If Rudi has regained his top form then he can outproduce expectations set for him this year after a pretty awful last year.

King_Killah
08-10-2008, 12:13 PM
Just a note...


The city of Cincinnati will pay former Bengals DT Matthias Askew $500,000 to settle a lawsuit in which Askew alleged unlawful arrest and excessive force. The player claimed that the arrest caused his release from the Bengals, which prevented him from earning a contract extension. Askew is now in training camp with the Washington Redskins.

Maybe Henry should call Askew's attorney!

Dubz
08-10-2008, 01:42 PM
Oucho is already smack talking....some things will never change. i remembersomething about him not wanting to be a distraction but theres no way that happens.

"It's a really good test with Al and C. Wood to see who I am so far," Johnson said after he worked in Saturday's practice. "My 50 percent is better than most 100 percents. My 50 will get me by, but my 100 will get me where we want to be."

Dubz
08-13-2008, 09:02 AM
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Tuesday, August 12, 2008

RB Johnson has injured hamstring...again

Rudi Johnson (http://www.nfl.com/players/rudijohnson/profile?id=JOH653266) is once again dealing with hamstring issues, and it's something fantasy footballers need to monitor.

King_Killah
08-19-2008, 12:34 PM
Bengals WR Chad Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnCh01-1.php) left the field hunched over with a shoulder injury when he fell to the turf as he tried to make a leaping catch on Palmer's third-and-nine pass during the Bengals' first drive. Although there was no official report, indications are the injury isn't serious.

Positive news on this is that Johnson was moving his arm as he was walking off the field.

King_Killah
08-20-2008, 01:14 PM
Chris Henry a Bungal again...


The Bengals announced in a press release the re-signing of WR Chris Henry (http://www.footballguys.com/HenrCh01-1.php) and he was at Bengals camp undergoing a physical today. According to the release, Henry is eligible as of Tuesday to join whatever team preseason activities are assigned to him by the coaching staff. He is eligible to play in the final two preseason games. He won't be able to play until Week 5 due to his four-game suspension. The Bengals may have been more forgiving with Henry due to current injuries to receivers Chad Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnCh01-1.php) (shoulder), T.J. Houshmandzadeh (http://www.footballguys.com/HousTJ00-1.php) (hamstring) and Andre Caldwell (http://www.footballguys.com/CaldAn00-1.php) (foot). To make room for Henry, the team cut CB Jerrid Gaines.

This was bound to happen. A handful of teams looked at Henry, but it seemed as if the Bengals were the only ones seriously talking with him. I am OK with it, although there is a lot of rumbling that this is putting out a bad image with Cincinnati. Henry wasn't cut because of his football skills. With Johnson hurt and questionable for week 1, Housh hurt and questionable for week 1, Caldwell hurt and really...well, Caldwell is Caldwell... Bringing Henry back in isn't a bad move.

Marv Lewis's credibility however is now shot... Nothing Lewis threatens will hold water or be taken seriously after reversing his stand on Henry.

chgorman
08-20-2008, 02:26 PM
Chris Henry a Bungal again...



This was bound to happen. A handful of teams looked at Henry, but it seemed as if the Bengals were the only ones seriously talking with him. I am OK with it, although there is a lot of rumbling that this is putting out a bad image with Cincinnati. Henry wasn't cut because of his football skills. With Johnson hurt and questionable for week 1, Housh hurt and questionable for week 1, Caldwell hurt and really...well, Caldwell is Caldwell... Bringing Henry back in isn't a bad move.

Marv Lewis's credibility however is now shot... Nothing Lewis threatens will hold water or be taken seriously after reversing his stand on Henry.

Except that he's not eligible to play until week 5 as far as I know, so his addition won't help any of those week 1 issues.

And there's a blurb on Rotoworld saying that the decision to bring back Henry came from the owner, and Marv had no say in it. I'm guessing if he had a say in it, that Henry wouldn't be back, but the owner made the call, not Lewis. ... or so says rotoworld.

King_Killah
08-21-2008, 03:21 PM
According to Cincinnati Bengals HC Marvin Lewis, If the season opened now, Chris Perry would be the starting running back. Lewis displayed some urgency about the slow progress of injured starting RB Rudi Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnRu00-1.php) and WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh (http://www.footballguys.com/HousTJ00-1.php). Lewis also said that WR Chad Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnCh01-1.php)'s sprained shoulder has progressed quicker than first thought and he remains on target to play week one. Asked what Rudi Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnRu00-1.php) would have to do to win the job back, Lewis said, "I have to see Rudi play and practice, practice, practice and then play." He followed that up with a note about Houshmandzadeh. "Same (with T.J.). I think T.J. needs more (practice) than he thinks," Lewis said.

A little something for all you Rudi Johnson and TJ Housh owners to pay atttention to. Not so worried about TJ as much as Rudi, personally...

King_Killah
08-25-2008, 04:01 PM
Cincinnati Bengals QB Carson Palmer (http://www.footballguys.com/PalmCa00-1.php) is listed as questionable for the team's final preseason game this Saturday night against the New Orleans Saints with a broken nose. Palmer is expected to be ready for the regular season opener.
Lewis said in a statement Sunday that Palmer had a small crack in one of his nose bones and it took doctors about 10 minutes to put it back in place.

Not a huge deal, but do the Bengals really need any more grief than they already have?

FlyGuy78
08-25-2008, 05:06 PM
there isn't a damn thing going right for the Bengals this year. I honestly don't see them doing very well.

King_Killah
08-25-2008, 06:54 PM
there isn't a damn thing going right for the Bengals this year. I honestly don't see them doing very well.

The crazy thing about it is that they really have a talented core... Palmer, Johnson, Johnson, Housh, Watson......

FlyGuy78
08-25-2008, 07:27 PM
The crazy thing about it is that they really have a talented core... Palmer, Johnson, Johnson, Housh, Watson......

that's what pisses me off come draft day!! :rolleyes:

King_Killah
08-25-2008, 07:40 PM
that's what pisses me off come draft day!! :rolleyes:

.......which is coming in less than a week!

FlyGuy78
08-26-2008, 07:00 AM
.......which is coming in less than a week!

oh the countdown has begun!!

is the War Room ready yet? :wtf:

King_Killah
08-26-2008, 07:41 AM
oh the countdown has begun!!

is the War Room ready yet? :wtf:

Haven't seen your ass down here yet to clean the bitch????? :lol:

FlyGuy78
08-26-2008, 08:28 AM
Haven't seen your ass down here yet to clean the bitch????? :lol:

You haven't said when!! I've said I would be there any day you wanted! Seriously, e-mail man. :D

King_Killah
08-26-2008, 10:55 AM
ESPN's John Clayton is reporting that a source divulged to him that Cincinnati Bengals WR Chad Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnCh01-1.php) has a partially torn labrum in his left shoulder. Originally believed to have sustained a sprained shoulder, the source said that Johnson is expected to wear a harness and may be able to avoid surgery and play this season.

This is big since we originally were hearing that it was a sprained shoulder. Kellen Winslow played through last season with a similar injury. Difference is if the Bengals are sitting 2-4, 2-5 or worse and 85 takes a big hit, how motivated will he be to fight through the pain and continue to not have surgery? Now the big twist in this whole thing is the return of Chris Henry. If he can stay out of jail, and believe me it isn't a given that he can... He will likely be the guy to see a lot of balls thrown his way. Could be worth a later round pick.

King_Killah
08-26-2008, 11:03 AM
ESPN's Chris Mortensen is reporting that the Cincinnati Bengals are shipping RB Rudi Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnRu00-1.php) in trade talks. On ESPN's Monday Night Countdown, Mortensen said they're asking for a "real receiver" who could help out if WR Chad Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnCh01-1.php) suffers a setback in his recovery from a partially torn labrum.

This actually is saying two things...

1) The Bengals believe that the injury is more serious than what is being lead on right now.

2) The Bengals have a lot of confidence in Watson and Perry to run the ship on the ground.

It would be interesting to see where Rudi would end up. Actually read an article last night saying that they contacted Arizona about Anquan Boldin, but nothing official about how the call went. Boldin would definitely lift the spirits of the Bengals and their fans and wouldn't put as much pressure on Ocho Cinco. Johnson would actually strengthen Arizona's run game even more.

King_Killah
08-27-2008, 01:32 PM
Cincinnati Bengals RB Rudi Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnRu00-1.php) said this afternoon he would not be surprised to be traded. "They've been trying to get me out of here for a long time," Johnson said after practicing for the second day in a row. "It's part of the league. It's part of the game." HC Marvin Lewis said that it "makes no sense for me to confirm or deny anything involving a player." Meanwhile, WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh (http://www.footballguys.com/HousTJ00-1.php), practiced today for the second day in a row and said he experienced no pain or soreness out of the ordinary. He said whether he plays Thursday night in the preseason finale is Lewis' decision. QB Carson Palmer (http://www.footballguys.com/PalmCa00-1.php) said he would not play against the Colts. DE Eric Henderson, who has missed all of the preseason, had an ice bag on his right hamstring after practice.

The team needs all the breaks they can get, so good to see Housh back out there.

Dubz
08-27-2008, 07:51 PM
Stay away from Cincy!!!!

I did draft Rudi last night at 122 tho:dunno:

Dubz
08-30-2008, 04:15 PM
Rudi Johnson and Willie Anderson cut

http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=6997

* I dont thing theres a DB in the league who can wait to line up with Oucho's shoulder:evilgrin:

King_Killah
08-31-2008, 09:11 AM
The Cincinnati Bengals have released veteran RB Rudi Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnRu00-1.php). Johnson had missed much of camp with a hamstring injury after battling injures last year as well. RB Chris Perry is expected to take over as the Bengals starting RB.

There was question on how long Perry would hold the spot after Rudi got back, now he is clearly the man. Pressure rides on Perry, Watson, and DeDe Dorsey.

Dubz
09-01-2008, 08:04 AM
Sun, Aug 31 ESPN's John Clayton reports the Denver Broncos could be a possible landing spot for free-agent RB Rudi Johnson (Bengals).



Sun, Aug 31 ESPN's John Clayton reports the Houston Texans could be a possible landing spot for free-agent RB Rudi Johnson (Bengals).


Im pretty sure he will "land" somewhere.

*Edit....Like here:
News: Several media outlets in Detroit reported Sunday that former Bengals RB Rudi Johnson (http://534pix.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/235094) was in town to work out for the Lions on Monday.

King_Killah
09-02-2008, 05:45 PM
Sun, Aug 31 ESPN's John Clayton reports the Denver Broncos could be a possible landing spot for free-agent RB Rudi Johnson (Bengals).



Sun, Aug 31 ESPN's John Clayton reports the Houston Texans could be a possible landing spot for free-agent RB Rudi Johnson (Bengals).


Im pretty sure he will "land" somewhere.

*Edit....Like here:
News: Several media outlets in Detroit reported Sunday that former Bengals RB Rudi Johnson (http://534pix.football.sportsline.com/players/playerpage/235094) was in town to work out for the Lions on Monday.

He was in Detroit!

King_Killah
09-02-2008, 05:47 PM
Cincinnati Bengals WR Chad Johnson (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnCh01-1.php) says his shoulder is 100 percent and he's ready to practice today for the first time since he tore his labrum 15 days ago. "I've got a lot of making up to do to a lot of people," said Ocho Cinco, who indicated he prefers the media use his new legal name. "Not to just my teammates and coaches, (but) from the top all the way down. I pissed a lot of people off in the offseason. I've got to become completely focused. No distractions. I have to stay an attraction and be extraordinary in what I do."

Is Ocho making sense anymore??? He says his shoulder in 100% but in the very same breath he says he needs surgery, but that others had played the season with the same injury.

Its good to see him out there, but the concern for owners would have to be re-aggravating the injury. He does take a lot of hits during the course of a game.

two24four
09-03-2008, 12:20 PM
Free agent Chad Jackson visited with the Bengals late Tuesday.

Oakland let Jackson leave without a deal. The Bengals may be looking at him as a kick return option who offers more offensive upside than Glenn Holt.
Source: bengals.com (http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=7012)

two24four
09-03-2008, 12:22 PM
Carson Palmer will wear a clear helmet shield to protect his broken nose in Week 1 against the Ravens.

"It's not as susceptible to being re-broken now that it's had a little over a week to heal," Palmer said. He doesn't anticipate the shield affecting his vision. Palmer will also look cooler on the field, making him a must-start.
Source: bengals.com (http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=7012)

:lol::lol:

FlyGuy78
10-13-2008, 04:28 PM
Carson Palmer, QB CIN

Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer (http://dav.football.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396173) will miss another game because of his sore elbow on his right (throwing) arm. Coach Marvin Lewis said Monday that Ryan Fitzpatrick (http://dav.football.nfl.com/players/playerpage/547043) will start against the Steelers on Sunday, giving Palmer another week to rest his right elbow

There are rumors that Palmer might wind up having Tommy John surgery, which would impact his next two seasons and possibly the rest of his career.

Wow, if Palmer is out with Tommy John, the Bengals are in deep trouble.

King_Killah
10-13-2008, 06:43 PM
You have Matt Cassel taking over for Tom Brady. You have Jim Sorgi taking over for Peyton Manning. Then you have Ryan Fitzpatrick taking over for Carson Palmer. Cincinnati was already in trouble. They might as well give the Raiders a call and start setting up tee times. Fitzpatrick is one of those guys who are on the Rex Grossman, Kyle Boller level. I'll try not to, but I am sure for as hard as I try... Fitzpatrick is going to get his fair share of bashing.

King_Killah
05-07-2009, 08:10 PM
Steve Wyche of NFL.com reports the Cincinnati Bengals have agreed to terms with unrestricted free-agent SS Roy L. Williams (Cowboys). Terms of the contract were not disclosed.

Pretty big move for the Bengals defense here. I like it. William's best years in Dallas were under Mike Zimmer who is now the Bengals defensive coordinator. I think Williams will regain confidence in his downfield coverage.

King_Killah
05-28-2009, 10:53 AM
Joe Reedy, of The Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals QB Carson Palmer (http://www.footballguys.com/PalmCa00-1.php) (elbow) looked good throwing the ball during practice Tuesday, May 26.

Well this is obviously good news for Cincinnati who hope to be a playoff contender this year, but... Issue #1: Pittsburgh is still in the division. Issue #2: Baltimore will continue to build on last year's success and may even be better this year. Issue #3: Only two teams from this division make the post, so sorry Cincy (Cleveland) but your hopes are diminished from the beginning.

King_Killah
06-10-2009, 12:47 PM
Geoff Hobson, from Bengals.com, reports that Chad Ochocinco (http://www.footballguys.com/JohnCh01-1.php) spoke with Carson Palmer (http://www.footballguys.com/PalmCa00-1.php) on the phone Monday for about 40-45 minutes. "I know people are trying to say we're mad at each other and all that, but we're good," he said. "We're like Brokeback Mountain. I'm going to be with Carson so much in July that I'm going to be the nanny (for his new twins)."

OK, may be a little TMI. But good to see that there is communication between Palmer and 85.

b_illin
06-10-2009, 09:59 PM
OK, may be a little TMI. But good to see that there is communication between Palmer and 85.

Totally...and Palmer is available for a draft pick on KK's keeper 2 league :D

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
06-11-2009, 01:32 AM
Is it wrong that when I see new posts in this thread I come into it wondering who got arrested?

King_Killah
06-11-2009, 11:32 AM
Is it wrong that when I see new posts in this thread I come into it wondering who got arrested?

Bonger that was so last season... Now you have to wonder who is getting facial tattoos...



Following in the footsteps of renowned role models Mike Tyson and Stephon Marbury, the former Chad Johnson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8603/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8603/news) has gone and gotten himself a face tattoo. The transformation from amusing narcissist to attention-craving crackpot is now complete.
Ochocinco announced the new facial ink on Twitter (http://twitter.com/OGOchoCinco/status/2109303982) and had the courtesy to post pictures of his three-part facial masterpiece.

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nfl_experts__14/ept_sports_nfl_experts-956468962-1244686436.jpg?ymkxfZBDd8t2tq.R
Oh yes my friends, that's an outline of the state of Florida. The other side of his face is adorned with two crosses (http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_images/257870237/IMG_0164.JPG). And in between his eyes -- yes, in between his eyes -- are the letters "OC". Who knew Ochocinco was a fan of Mischa Barton?

Spartan
06-11-2009, 11:37 AM
Ochocinco jerseys are not even in the top 100 jerseys sold since April 1st. What an idiot.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/31167243

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
06-11-2009, 03:15 PM
Bonger that was so last season... Now you have to wonder who is getting facial tattoos...

Wow. Just wow.

King_Killah
06-12-2009, 06:53 PM
Joe Reedy, of The Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Cincinnati Bengals WR Andre Caldwell (http://www.footballguys.com/CaldAn00-1.php) has been working a lot as the slot receiver during offseason workouts and could emerge as a third-down receiver.

With Houshmanzadeh taking more than 30% of the catches last year, the Bengals are looking for someone to step up with Housh gone. Chad Ocho and Lav Coles already have the #1 and #2 locked up. Caldwell could and should take the WR3 spot.

King_Killah
06-18-2009, 04:42 PM
Joe Reedy, from the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports Last year at this time, Carson Palmer (http://www.footballguys.com/PalmCa00-1.php) knew that the Bengals were going to be in for a rough season. As the Bengals begin their three-day mandatory minicamp today, the attitude is different. "In my seven years here, this has been as good as its been," Palmer said. "The mindset of the team, the amount of distractions is down and the focus is where it needs to be. As far as talent wise, this is probably the best talent we've had but the most maturity we've had by far. We're where we need to be, we're headed in the right direction."

Positive words from your team leader. Let's see what they can put together.

King_Killah
08-21-2009, 07:03 AM
Another reason to draft Ochocinco????



FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP)—A new role, another new name for Chad Ochocinco (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5483/;_ylt=AhInwGmzQKv37EzZ9c0pucwisLYF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5483/news;_ylt=AkX4J2GdcptG0jSWmzGfv1QisLYF).
Cincinnati’s emergency kicker and international soccer fan booted the decisive extra point late in the first half and the Bengals beat the sloppy New England Patriots (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nwe/) 7-6 on Thursday night.
” ‘Esteban’ Ochocinco is back, the most interesting footballer in the world,” Ochocinco said. “Everyone has to remember, I’ve always said that soccer is my No. 1 sport. I think Ronaldinho would be proud of me right now.”
Ochocinco practices kicking but had never done it in a preseason or regular-season game in his eight years with the Bengals, the first seven as Chad Johnson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players?type=lastname&first=1&query=Chad+Johnson&q=Chad+Johnson). But when Shayne Graham’s (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5854/;_ylt=AgTmXvouBcrGM5Ld3OwvgGsisLYF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5854/news;_ylt=AjN2H1.qoW3XB6BWHN_QrO4isLYF) groin felt sore in pregame warmups, coach Marvin Lewis decided to rest the team’s franchise player and see what Ochocinco could do.
AP - Aug 20, 9:16 pm EDT
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090821/capt.0776166d441140feb962d6f513426a98.bengals_patr iots_football_mack104.jpg?x=180&y=200&xc=1&yc=1&wc=332&hc=369&q=70&sig=K2BygFRLUfqx8sCnBo89DA-- (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/photo;_ylt=AqcxmuKS0I40B19VSmtfsDgisLYF?slug=07761 66d441140feb962d6f513426a98.bengals_patriots_footb all_mack104&prov=ap)



He did very well.



After the game, Ochocinco pulled out his PDA and displayed a photo of him with soccer star David Beckham.
“Soccer’s my first love, Kicking’s easy … like riding a bike,” he said. “I can kick them from 50, 60 yards, left or right hash mark. … I kicked all through high school.”
The Bengals career leader in catches and yards receiving powered the ball through the uprights, a task that can be tough if not done regularly.
“It’s not easy,” said Patriots wide receiver Wes Welker (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7027/;_ylt=AuSWwyzHa.byUGS4k6_xlZQisLYF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7027/news;_ylt=AnmxjiSjIXZx4uRNAjvc25wisLYF), who kicked a field goal and extra point on the same field for Miami in a 27-10 loss to New England on Oct. 10, 2004. “To kick that is something, and he got real good height on it.”

Wouldn't that be some shit... You go into a week and you are up say 9, and feeling comfortable knowing your opponent only has 85... Ocho scores a TD kicks the XP and the a FG. Would Yahoo count it? They do count oddball stats sometimes.

suckerpuncher
08-21-2009, 09:07 AM
Would Yahoo count it? They do count oddball stats sometimes.
They count tackles etc. from kickers and offensive players (after fumbles and INTs) in leagues with IDP scoring so why not the other way around? :D

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-21-2009, 02:38 PM
The Bungholes are disappointing me. Where are the arrests and brushes with the law at? We're waiting!

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
09-03-2009, 01:05 AM
tee hee... :lol:


CINCINNATI (AP) -- The Bengals have their first home sellout of the regular season, and it's not their opener.

The club announced on Wednesday that a Sept. 27 game against the Pittsburgh Steelers has sold out. That game always attracts thousands of Steelers fans who make the five-hour drive and turn Paul Brown Stadium into something akin to their home field.

It's the only one of eight regular-season home games to sell out so far. Tickets are left for the Sept. 13 home opener against Denver. Cincinnati has sold out its last 44 regular-season home games.


Read

King_Killah
11-06-2009, 01:27 PM
Sorry.......like the Bengals or Ochocinco or not, this is freakin' hilarious....


Chad Ochocinco said today on 105.7 FM that he sent gift baskets containing deodorant to the Ravens' secondary and to linebackers Terrell Suggs and Ray Lewis.


"I not only sent them gift baskets, but I sent them something they could use so they don't sweat," Ochocinco said.
Not sweating is the public line but most are interpreting it to be that the Ravens defense stinks. We'll see how this works out.

Wow.........I can't stop laughing... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

If this is true, you can expect Baltimore to step it up.

two24four
11-06-2009, 01:28 PM
:lol::lol:

Lewis will want to rip is head off now.

FlyGuy78
11-06-2009, 01:39 PM
:lol::lol:

Lewis will want to rip is head off now.

Hahaha....I'm pretty sure also that Lewis and Ocho are really good friends. I think I remember Ocho saying that during an interview.

two24four
11-06-2009, 01:41 PM
Hahaha....I'm pretty sure also that Lewis and Ocho are really good friends. I think I remember Ocho saying that during an interview.

No friends on the football feild, inless you are wearing the same jersey.

Hockeyis#1
11-06-2009, 03:21 PM
That's pretty funny.

Hope Ocho doesn't have any catches inside cuz Ray Lewis is gonna be lining him up.

Kyle
11-06-2009, 03:44 PM
lol, must be really nice to get to act like you're still in highschool while you make 10+ million a year.:lol:

King_Killah
11-13-2009, 02:00 PM
This is the Ocho that we all know and love... The one that is in the media all the time... Good shit...



CINCINNATI (AP)—Chad Ochocinco’s (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5483/;_ylt=AgQGZ8NcB2dGaz1gAfVK6t4dsLYF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5483/news;_ylt=AmPOAp.SWwIqpobQ5UKBGa0dsLYF) pretend $1 bribe is going to cost him a lot more.
The Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/cin/;_ylt=Al13a6q1KiyKisz8Tz7kLKYdsLYF) receiver says he has been fined $20,000 for taking a dollar bill onto the field during an officials’ review of one of his catches during a 17-7 win over Baltimore on Sunday. Ochocinco held the dollar in his right hand at his side but didn’t give it to the official, who motioned for him to stay away.

The NFL has cracked down on players using props during games. It also prohibits insulting gestures toward officials.
In response to the fine, Rock Software, Inc.—which made Ochocinco’s iPhone application—says it will donate an additional $20,000 in the receiver’s name to the Hillview Acres home for abused children in Chino, Calif.

Funny.



It's laminated and everything, so it must be official.

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nfl_experts__18/ept_sports_nfl_experts-462138464-1258046262.jpg?ym2cdMCDiWK2kse7
That comes from Ocho himself, the irrepressible scamp that he is, on his Twitter account (http://twitter.com/OGOchoCinco/status/5622962818).
In other Ocho news, he's also rambling about how he wants to fight UFC superstar Anderson Silva (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/UFC-s-newest-fighter-is-Chad-Ochocinco-?urn=mma,201936) for charity. Let's hope that fight doesn't come together before the weekend, because it would be really nice if Chad could still walk on Sunday for the game against the Steelers.

F*cking hilarious funny... (Its laminated so it must be true)


Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/cin/) wide receiver Chad Ochocinco is on pace to have a banner season, much like he did in 2007, but he already has his eye on the offseason. He spent Wednesday asking, nay, begging, Dana White over Twitter (http://twitter.com/OGOchoCinco) to sign him to the UFC for a fight with middleweight champion and pound-for-pound king Anderson Silva (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dd-mmarankings102909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns).

Dana this Ocho Cinco, I want to fight your #1 and #2 best fighters asap,exhibition to raise money for a charity of choice!!!!!!

matter of fact I want Anderson Spider Silva---please don't ignore me or you'll have to fight me yourself!!! Sincerely Esteban :)

Mr. White this a serious matter, we can help alot organazations with this fight, I have a good chance at winning against Silva

Awesome! I'm fighting Anderson Silva-I can't wait to throw my child please combo with a kiss da baby leg kick, Silva can shut the front door!
White, never one to miss a good marketing opportunity, responded to the colorful football star (http://twitter.com/danawhite).

Perfect @OGOchoCinco. I need a Jan 2nd fight. Ocho Cinco vs Anderson Spider Silva. PS - I'm too old to fight anyone.

If you are really serious @OGOchoCinco, contact me. We'll put a fight together for charity.

@OGOchoCinco Follow me so I can send you my email
Now, it's highly unlikely that the UFC would ever put together a charity match with their best fighter. But a charity fight would make for a good story. Ocho Cinco isn't new to combat sports, as he has trained boxing for years (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GAFPrEE7is).
Since Anderson Silva, or any real middleweight, would be unlikely for a fight with Ochocinco, who is listed at 6-feet-1, 192 pounds, who would fight the gridiron star? Former NFL running back Herschel Walker recently signed with the UFC's rival, Strikeforce, so that match-up is unlikely (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/cagewriter/post/Former-NFLer-Herschel-Walker-signed-with-Strikef?urn=mma,190906). Perhaps Ochocinco can battle for supremacy among receivers in a bout with Michael Westbrook, who played with the Washington Redskins (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/was/) and Bengals and went on to earn a black belt in jiu-jitsu and go 1-1 in his MMA career.

Now....he's lost his mind. Trained boxer or not.

Hockeyis#1
11-14-2009, 11:19 AM
He's lost his fucking mind if he think he has a shot to beat Anderson Silva. Guys who have fought professionally their whole lives can't beat Silva.
In the words of Ochocinco:
"Child, please!!"

b_illin
11-14-2009, 12:26 PM
Dudes, he's joking...he knows the media eats his shit up so he says wild things to get reactions. He's fucking loco but he cracks me up.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
11-14-2009, 04:30 PM
Dudes, he's joking...he knows the media eats his shit up so he says wild things to get reactions. He's fucking loco but he cracks me up.

Yeah even though he is a dirty bunghole I love his antics and wish we had more of them. He is a very funny and dare I say charming sort've character.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
11-15-2009, 03:23 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I hope Taylor shuts his ass DOWN, but damned this shit is hilarious....



"Hotel manager name is Jesse, first person to say my name Ocho Cinco to Jesse at the Marriot we about to act a donkey in the mall."

That simple message -- complete with spelling, grammar and punctuation flexibility -- set off a storm of excitement last night at the Marriott City Center in Pittsburgh after it was posted by Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco on Twitter, the blogging service that allows users to communicate in brief messages, or "tweets."

More than 50 people turned up at the hotel. Many more called the front desk to ask to speak to "Jesse," hoping for a chance at a shopping spree paid for by the athlete formerly known as Chad Johnson.

Mr. Ochocinco is known for outrageous antics that have generated lots of publicity -- and a number of NFL fines -- through his career.

In the past week alone he was fined $20,000 for brandishing a dollar bill at an official during a replay review against Baltimore. He also earned a rebuke from his coach after he posted on Twitter that he would send mustard to the Steelers' defensive backs because they couldn't "ketch up" with him today at Heinz Field. He also promised to put on a celebration to earn another fine.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09319/1013709-66.stm

two24four
11-17-2009, 01:01 PM
LJ has signed with CIN, one year deal, he was told though that he's 4th on the depth chart.

dw13
11-17-2009, 01:05 PM
LJ has signed with CIN, one year deal, he was told though that he's 4th on the depth chart.

The week he gets the book down pat, he will be their starting back if Benson is hurt for an extended period of time. He didn't sign there to be '4th on the depth chart'. That's Lewis making it not look like a big sign

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
11-17-2009, 04:34 PM
Not a surprising move with Benson going down. Trouble Makers fit in well in Cinci. LJ already has an arrest record that rivals many of the Bungles!

FlyGuy78
11-17-2009, 07:25 PM
Benson says he feels fine, but they are talking as though they may hold him out of the OAK game since they may not need him. That sucks for me as I have Benson on my $$$ league team. I was hoping for a big performance this week vs. my absolutely pathetic Raiders.

Spartan
12-16-2009, 07:21 PM
According to multiple reports Chris Henry has been in a serious car accident and may have passed away or is on life support.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
12-17-2009, 02:13 AM
According to multiple reports Chris Henry has been in a serious car accident and may have passed away or is on life support.

Oh man that's too bad. Kid could never quite get his shit together right but you hate to hear about something like that. Here is what I've got ---

Cincinnati Bengals receiver Chris Henry suffered serious injuries after falling out of the back of a pickup truck yesterday during a domestic dispute with his fiance in Charlotte, N.C.


Henry was found in the road "apparently suffering life-threatening injuries," according to Charlotte-Mecklenburg police. Henry was transported to Carolinas Medical Center but a spokesperson said he was not listed in hospital records and had no other information. Police say Henry jumped into the bed of the pickup truck as his unidentified fiance was driving away from a home just before noon.


Henry broke his left forearm in a win against Baltimore Nov. 8, had surgery and was placed on season-ending injured reserve. Charlotte is home to his fiance's parents, the Bengals said.

Doctego
12-17-2009, 10:00 AM
Can't find a link but all TV reports are that he died.

dw13
12-17-2009, 10:15 AM
RIP Chris Henry... damn

suckerpuncher
12-17-2009, 10:49 AM
Just when he seemed to have turned the corner something like this happens.

RIP.

Doctego
12-17-2009, 10:50 AM
Just when he seemed to have turned the corner something like this happens.

RIP.

Unfortunately, it happens like that way too often. The list goes on and on.

b_illin
12-17-2009, 11:26 AM
Holy smokes! RIP dude

secol
12-17-2009, 12:21 PM
RIP chris henry

MrScientist
12-17-2009, 12:30 PM
RIP chris henry

^^

King_Killah
12-17-2009, 12:34 PM
Damn....... RIP Chris Henry. It's always shitty when something like this happens, even more shitty during these times of the year.

two24four
12-17-2009, 01:02 PM
RIP Chris Henry.

Very sad news.

Kyle
12-17-2009, 01:28 PM
Ok, I'm gonna be the big asshole, sorry if this offends anybody. While a death is always unfortunate and I hope he will RIP, Chris Henry was a piece of shit asshole his entire life and the world is a better place without him. I'm not gonna act sad over this.

b_illin
12-17-2009, 01:40 PM
Ok, I'm gonna be the big asshole, sorry if this offends anybody. While a death is always unfortunate and I hope he will RIP, Chris Henry was a piece of shit asshole and the world is a better place without him. I'm not gonna act sad over this.

I don't think you can say that about anybody you don't know...unless they have done some seriously heinous shit. By all accounts he had been turning his life around too.

Kyle
12-17-2009, 01:50 PM
By what accounts? His life ended in a big fight that ended up with him chasing his wife as she was driving away and jumping on back of a speeding pickup truck bed. Wheres the change?

I don't need to know a person to call him an asshole. Aggrivated assault with a firearm. Countless embarassing unsportsmanlike incidents on the field. Gets 3 underaged girls drunk in a hotel room. Gets a DUI. Assaults some random valet parking dude. Beats an 18 year old and throws a beer bottle through his window and then claims "I thought he was somebody who owes me money."

Sorry dude, but I have no respect for anybody who doesn't realize what a blessing it is to be where they are (AKA every professional athlete out there). I can't stand professional athletes who live their lives like 15 year old gangbangers. Its bad enough that theres countless kids pratically forced into that life because of their lack of options, its just sickening when someone getting paid millions a year to catch a football decides to still live like a scumbag.

But now I'm derailing which I apologize for. I won't respond here anymore, just got a bit frustrated that some random asshole dying is all everyone around me wants to talk about today.

dw13
12-17-2009, 02:01 PM
Ok, I'm gonna be the big asshole, sorry if this offends anybody. While a death is always unfortunate and I hope he will RIP, Chris Henry was a piece of shit asshole his entire life and the world is a better place without him. I'm not gonna act sad over this.

Why did you even feel the need to post that?

b_illin
12-17-2009, 02:02 PM
:soapbox: (it must be nice to be so faultless!)

Kyle
12-17-2009, 02:05 PM
Why did you even feel the need to post that?

The ability to bite my tongue has always been way way low on my list of strong qualities.



it must be nice to be so faultless


Far from it, but I'm not a bad person. It just bugs me that huge deals and big dramatics are made about a terrible person dying. But thats a funny line comming from you of all people.

Floodgates are open...you guys can try to make me look like as big of an ass at you want for talking shit about somebody who just died but I'm just calling it like it is. Theres very little sad about this incident.

dw13
12-17-2009, 02:07 PM
Far from it, but I'm not a bad person. It just bugs me that huge deals and big dramatics are made about a terrible person dying.

You're the one being dramatic about it.

b_illin
12-17-2009, 02:07 PM
The ability to bite my tongue has always been way way low on my list of strong qualities.



Far from it, but I'm not a bad person. It just bugs me that huge deals and big dramatics are made about a terrible person dying.

The only reason it's a big deal was due to the dramatic way in which he died or got injured. Frankly, I think your reaction is more dramatic!

Kyle
12-17-2009, 02:14 PM
*Shrug* maybe so. Last I checked a discussion board was a public forum where thoughts on subjects can be posted as freely as they pop up in your head (So long as it doesn't violate any rules) so I took 10 seconds to post mine. I had no desire to turn this into a full blown discussion so the dramatics are unintentional.

dw13
12-17-2009, 02:18 PM
*Shrug* maybe so. Last I checked a discussion board was a public forum where thoughts on subjects can be posted as freely as they pop up in your head (So long as it doesn't violate any rules) so I took 10 seconds to post mine. I had no desire to turn this into a full blown discussion so the dramatics are unintentional.

Yes its a discussion board, which is why alot of us came here to say RIP Chris Henry, and merely it. Did you really think no one was going to respond to you calling him a shitty person?

Kyle
12-17-2009, 02:21 PM
I'm pretty sure I specifically mentioned that it was not the reactions here that had me frustrated. This is just the only place to vent about it. ;)

You said RIP, and I said he was an asshole and that the world is a better place now. You had your say and I had mine, wheres the problem?

dw13
12-17-2009, 02:22 PM
I'm pretty sure I specifically mentioned that it was not the reactions here that had me frustrated. This is just the only place to vent about it. ;)

You said RIP, and I said he was an asshole and that the world is a better place now. You had your say and I had mine, wheres the problem?

I have no problem at all, was merely answering to your post

Kyle
12-17-2009, 02:23 PM
Ok then, once again sorry for the derailment everyone, carry on.:p

dw13
12-17-2009, 02:23 PM
Ok then, once again sorry for the derailment everyone, carry on.:p

:beer::beer:

Hockeyis#1
12-17-2009, 02:51 PM
Ok, I'm gonna be the big asshole, sorry if this offends anybody. While a death is always unfortunate and I hope he will RIP, Chris Henry was a piece of shit asshole his entire life and the world is a better place without him. I'm not gonna act sad over this.

By what accounts? His life ended in a big fight that ended up with him chasing his wife as she was driving away and jumping on back of a speeding pickup truck bed. Wheres the change?

I don't need to know a person to call him an asshole. Aggrivated assault with a firearm. Countless embarassing unsportsmanlike incidents on the field. Gets 3 underaged girls drunk in a hotel room. Gets a DUI. Assaults some random valet parking dude. Beats an 18 year old and throws a beer bottle through his window and then claims "I thought he was somebody who owes me money."
Sorry dude, but I have no respect for anybody who doesn't realize what a blessing it is to be where they are (AKA every professional athlete out there). I can't stand professional athletes who live their lives like 15 year old gangbangers. Its bad enough that theres countless kids pratically forced into that life because of their lack of options, its just sickening when someone getting paid millions a year to catch a football decides to still live like a scumbag.

But now I'm derailing which I apologize for. I won't respond here anymore, just got a bit frustrated that some random asshole dying is all everyone around me wants to talk about today.

+1 For the most part. He seemed like another wannabe thug. Like being Scarface was what he wanted to aspire to. Regardless of whether that's true or not. It was the impression I got of him. I'm not saying he deserved to die or am cheering that he's gone or anything ridiculous like that, but I'm in no ways sad nor rationalizing that because someone died, that they were a wholesome and fantastic person who should be respected (as many did/do when MJ died)

Doctego
12-17-2009, 03:18 PM
+1 For the most part. He seemed like another wannabe thug. Like being Scarface was what he wanted to aspire to. Regardless of whether that's true or not. It was the impression I got of him. I'm not saying he deserved to die or am cheering that he's gone or anything ridiculous like that, but I'm in no ways sad nor rationalizing that because someone died, that they were a wholesome and fantastic person who should be respected (as many did/do when MJ died)

We can analyze this however much we want so let me do the same. His life was troubled and for that, he needs to shoulder the blame. No one here knows if he was just a douche or if there were underlying reasons for acting that way. I will say that it is very easy for us to sit here and criticize the way that someone acts when we know nothing about them personally and we aren't even close to being in a position to know what it's like to suddenly be in a position of fame and money at such a young age.

I will say that I applaud him for trying to turn his life around. Not like a person that learns that he has cancer and goes on a drama tour. He was a healthy 26 year old that decided that enough was enough. That's how I will choose to remember him.

RIP, Chris Henry.

dw13
12-17-2009, 03:29 PM
We went through this whole situation when the McNair details arose, and if I'm not mistaken the sides on this board were the same as they are now.

I agree with Doc's post.

eff1ngham
12-17-2009, 04:05 PM
It's a shame because he was at the age where a lot of "thug" athletes start to turn things around and act like adults. Even if he made a ton of bad decisions, that's too young to die. RIP

Hawkeye
12-17-2009, 05:22 PM
Damn... I had him on my 2010 list of the dead pool. Better look for another option.

Dubz
12-17-2009, 05:37 PM
Shitty deal..RIP young man. I know he wasnt a saint but I doubt he deserved to be murdered.

That chick will be charged and convicted....then let go after a month.

EDIT: Crap...I posted this after only reading the post that he had passed. I could see hating somebody you knew but to thrash out on a person that had nothing to do with your life seems a tad odd, Kyle.

Kyle
12-17-2009, 05:55 PM
Really, 5 years now and my random lashouts still seem odd?:lol:

keyboard
12-17-2009, 06:14 PM
We went through this whole situation when the McNair details arose, and if I'm not mistaken the sides on this board were the same as they are now.I remember that. This is very similar, though I think Henry's past was considerably worse and the way he died seemed to be entirely his own fault.

I agree with Kyle though.


Really, 5 years now and my random lashouts still seem odd?:lol::lol:

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
12-17-2009, 08:12 PM
Wow. Rest in peace, eh. Not gonna get into my personal feelings regarding the type of person Henry was. Somebody out there must have loved him. Thoughts go out to those left in the wake.

keyboard
12-17-2009, 11:36 PM
Personally, if you beat women, I hope you burn for eternity. Anyone who wants to defend men who beat women, there's a spot down there for you, too. But my friends and I would love for you to stop by and tell us how you feel first. There are some fantastic comments all over Yahoo! articles about this death, and it gives people perspective. Unlike this bullshit I'm hearing on television about him leaving a "legacy". It's enough to make you vomit.

Shady6833
12-18-2009, 01:30 AM
Man Chris Henry is chilling up in heaven right now with Pac and Biggie. RIP man. I agree with the sentiments that maybe he was a bit unmorale while on Earth, but aren`t we all to some extent. Also the argument that because he struck it rich he should have automatically left the whole hood life behind him is rubish. Sometimes money is almost worse for guys like that. I am also a young kid (albeit from a much better background) around the same age as Henry and I can honestly say that having millions might have turned me into an absolute maniac as well. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone on young Henry and I honestly believe that that is none of us on this forum.

Kyle
12-18-2009, 02:11 AM
Also the argument that because he struck it rich he should have automatically left the whole hood life behind him is rubish.

No, its not rubbish, and the people who have trouble leaving it behind are immature fuckheads who never grew out of highschool. Grow up, enjoy your amazingly fortunate life, and quit worrying about who dissed you or who has the shinier gun. Anybody getting paid enough to NOT live the ghetto life but chooses to live it anyway is a complete fucking idiot.

Two types of people live the hoodlife. One type does it to survive and the other type is just a retard with a misguided view of being a man. When you get rich yet still live the life, you're automatically delegated into that second group. Which is why I find it hilarious when rappers comming out of the hood are criticised for selling it when they try to rap about their old hood life, because they live in rich houses in white neighborhoods. The reality is they aren't sell outs (At least not for that reason, but they are sellouts for having their record labels dick shoved down their throats) and are just smart enough to realize they can go do whatever they want to instead of risking going to prison or getting shot.

I had hoped Henry realized this but the details regarding this incident suggest otherwise.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
12-18-2009, 02:34 AM
:dunno:

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nfl_experts__19/ept_sports_nfl_experts-504368064-1261066906.jpg?yma6.XCDRyJAkJEh

Redemption stories are the best kind. If someone's failed, lost their way or made more mistakes than we deem acceptable, I always find myself on that guy's side.

I'm not supporting what they've done or making excuses for them, but hoping that they'll find a way to be better. Hoping that they'll learn from their mistakes and become the person they can be. In one way or another, I think we're all striving for that.

That's what Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/cin/) wide receiver Chris Henry (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players?type=lastname&first=1&query=Chris+Henry&q=Chris+Henry) was supposedly doing when he lost his life this morning (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AtW0mJqq7EUeUcwapiu_7qdDubYF?slug=cr-chrishenrydies121709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns) near Charlotte after falling out of the back of a moving pickup truck (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/UPDATE-Chris-Henry-dies-from-accident-injuries?urn=nfl,209366)during a dispute with his fiancee. Charlotte-Mecklenburg police are still piecing together what happened in the accident.


Henry had a series of run-ins in college at West Virginia and was considered a major character risk by the NFL. He had been arrested multiple times while with the Bengals and suspended five times -- including for half of the 2007 season. The Bengals tired of Henry's antics and released him after that suspension, but gave him another chance in 2008.

Despite his checkered past, he and his teammates believed his future was bright. In the preseason, quarterback Carson Palmer (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6337/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6337/news) raved about Henry's work ethic and his ability. According to Palmer, Henry had a great offseason and had "really turned his life around." Unfortunately, his season was cut short by injury when he broke his forearm against the Baltimore Ravens (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/bal/) on November 8.

He was 26 when he lost his life this morning. Just 26 years old. (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/RIP-Chris-Henry-one-of-West-Virginia-s-best?urn=ncaaf,209507) For as many headlines as he had made, it seemed like he should be older. The fact was, though, that he was still a very young man. He was just entering his football prime, and considering his natural gifts and the signs he had been showing before being put on injured reserve this year, he could have gone on to have a great career.

That's the tragedy here. If things had continued to go the way he and his teammates said they were headed, Chris Henry could have one day stood in front of the world as an example that no matter what you've done in the past, your future can be better. He could have told the at-risk youth of the world, "Yes, it can be difficult to change the direction of your life, but it can be done, and you have the power to do it. I did it, and you can do it."

What a great thing that could've been. Sooner or later, we're all going to let somebody down. But life is about how you learn from your mistakes and how you use the experience to make yourself a better, stronger person.

Chris Henry believed he was becoming that guy. And we could have used that.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Chris-Henry-dead-at-26-could-have-been-a-role-?urn=nfl,209517

Shady6833
12-18-2009, 03:04 AM
No, its not rubbish, and the people who have trouble leaving it behind are immature fuckheads who never grew out of highschool. Grow up, enjoy your amazingly fortunate life, and quit worrying about who dissed you or who has the shinier gun. Anybody getting paid enough to NOT live the ghetto life but chooses to live it anyway is a complete fucking idiot.

Two types of people live the hoodlife. One type does it to survive and the other type is just a retard with a misguided view of being a man. When you get rich yet still live the life, you're automatically delegated into that second group. Which is why I find it hilarious when rappers comming out of the hood are criticised for selling it when they try to rap about their old hood life, because they live in rich houses in white neighborhoods. The reality is they aren't sell outs (At least not for that reason, but they are sellouts for having their record labels dick shoved down their throats) and are just smart enough to realize they can go do whatever they want to instead of risking going to prison or getting shot.

I had hoped Henry realized this but the details regarding this incident suggest otherwise.

I see where your coming from man I really do, but it is very narrow minded. He obviously learned to handle problems with violence and agression from a young age and that is not something that you can shake. You cant wave six million dollars in someones face and say now next time you get angry you have to control yourself. He made a lot of mistakes in his life, one of which seemingly ended it. I know for a fact that the conditions and lack of education and family problems and crime are all a big part of the development of ghetto children. I myself have not experienced any of this and would choose to think of ways to possibly help young men and women who deal with these issues in their development rather than point the finger and say they are what are wrong with the world. Not trying to make excuses because I do believe Chris Henry and others like him have to accept this for themselves, but I would also like to see prevention rather than reaction.

Kyle
12-18-2009, 03:32 AM
You sympathize too much. You can blame it on his past (Is he even a ghetto kid?), but I think thats being naive about it.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
12-18-2009, 04:42 AM
The world needs more sympathy/empathy. I didn't realize Henry had 3 children. Bummer... for them. Sorry kids, Santa took daddy away this Christmas. I absolutely understand the lack of sympathy for Chris Henry himself (my thoughts on the guy are not high) but how a person can not even give a single thought of remorse or sadness towards the family he left behind him is truly beyond my comprehension. They are the ones left confused and suffering, not Henry.

Spartan
12-18-2009, 08:50 AM
Sorry kids, Santa took daddy away this Christmas.:lol:

You're making Santa a little too old testament no?

Kyle
12-18-2009, 09:19 AM
The world needs more sympathy/empathy. I didn't realize Henry had 3 children. Bummer... for them. Sorry kids, Santa took daddy away this Christmas. I absolutely understand the lack of sympathy for Chris Henry himself (my thoughts on the guy are not high) but how a person can not even give a single thought of remorse or sadness towards the family he left behind him is truly beyond my comprehension. They are the ones left confused and suffering, not Henry.

Hey, no one mentioned kids or a family, and I certainly said nothing regarding them. Of course thats always tragic when a kid loses his father.

phaneuf6
12-18-2009, 09:21 AM
I agree with Kyle on all points here. It's sad that Chris Henry lost his life but lets not all paint him as a saint.

dw13
12-18-2009, 09:47 AM
Who is painting him a saint? I just don't get it. Everyone here just said RIP and they feel horrible for him, and his family. He left behind 3 kids and he's also someones kid as well. It's a sad turn of events when a 26 year old man dies.

Doctego
12-18-2009, 10:56 AM
Who is painting him a saint? I just don't get it. Everyone here just said RIP and they feel horrible for him, and his family. He left behind 3 kids and he's also someones kid as well. It's a sad turn of events when a 26 year old man dies.

Agreed. It seems like a lot of people here want to focus on the things that he did in the past. We all have skeletons in our closets. Some might have more but we all have them. We are human and we all make mistakes. I never claimed that he was a saint. I just claimed that he was someone that made a lot of mistakes, realized that, and tried to turn his life around. In the process, he died at 26 years old, which is way too young. People here or anywhere else can get on their soapbox and claim what a POS he was and, if hitting a man while he's down and can't defend himself is their MO, so be it. I choose not to.

I didn't hear anyone claim that he was a saint.

b_illin
12-18-2009, 11:44 AM
Man Chris Henry is chilling up in heaven right now with Pac and Biggie. RIP man. I agree with the sentiments that maybe he was a bit unmorale while on Earth, but aren`t we all to some extent. Also the argument that because he struck it rich he should have automatically left the whole hood life behind him is rubish. Sometimes money is almost worse for guys like that. I am also a young kid (albeit from a much better background) around the same age as Henry and I can honestly say that having millions might have turned me into an absolute maniac as well. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone on young Henry and I honestly believe that that is none of us on this forum.

In case you wonder why some ppl mock you....

(I don't mean to be a jerk, but wow!)

keyboard
12-18-2009, 12:27 PM
I've known women in abusive relationships with guys who have done things as crazy as jump on the back of their cars while they were moving/break the windows in frustration. If Henry survived that fall, I'd imagine his fianceé's life would have gotten a lot, lot harder. Hopefully with him gone she can cash in and turn her life and the life of her children around.

Everyone who says none of us have lived perfect lives so we shouldn't criticize, speak for yourself. I've lived a very good life, I'm proud of myself, and I don't think dying means you are free from criticism. If anything, it's the opposite. Now is the time we should consider the way he lived and make sure we don't commemorate his life in any way, because it sets a pretty fucked up example.

All I know is If someone loves you, they would stop and check if you were okay once you fell off the back of a truck.

b_illin
12-18-2009, 12:29 PM
Can we stop the fucking jumping to assumptions shit! Kam, you don't know Henry nor do I, so I think neither of us (nor anyone else who didn't know him) should be so opinionated. I hate wife beaters too....but you have no place calling the guy out like above!

Kyle
12-18-2009, 12:57 PM
In case you wonder why some ppl mock you....

(I don't mean to be a jerk, but wow!)

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

keyboard
12-18-2009, 01:29 PM
Can we stop the fucking jumping to assumptions shit! Kam, you don't know Henry nor do I, so I think neither of us (nor anyone else who didn't know him) should be so opinionated.See, that's the thing. The opinion I have on Henry is based on the facts of how he lived his life and how he died (knocked off the back of a truck by his fianceé who didn't stop to see if he survived). What assumptions are you referring to exactly? Criminal records usually don't make assumptions either.

b_illin
12-18-2009, 01:30 PM
See, that's the thing. The opinion I have on Henry is based on the facts of how he lived his life and how he died (knocked off the back of a truck by his fianceé who didn't stop to see if he survived). What assumptions are you referring to exactly? Criminal records usually don't make assumptions either.


If Henry survived that fall, I'd imagine his fianceé's life would have gotten a lot, lot harder. Hopefully with him gone she can cash in and turn her life and the life of her children around.

You know NOTHING about the situation in reality. He's bad for the stuff he did, but you don't know if she was a mega-cunt or if she hurt his kids or who knows.

I don't care.....slag him all you want dude

Hockeyis#1
12-18-2009, 03:30 PM
In case you wonder why some ppl mock you....

(I don't mean to be a jerk, but wow!)
+1
So ridiculous. If there is a heaven, I can't imagine they made it.

It's a sad turn of events when a 26 year old man dies.
No, it's not. Every life is NOT sacred. I'm not talking about Chris Henry here. I'm speaking in general. Saying it's sad when all young people die is complete BS. Dylan Klebold was 17. Is his life sacred?


Now is the time we should consider the way he lived and make sure we don't commemorate his life in any way, because it sets a pretty fucked up example.
+1

Yeah, I'm sure it sucks being his kids now not having a father; however, what kind of father do you think Chris Henry would be?

dw13
12-18-2009, 03:34 PM
+1
No, it's not. Every life is NOT sacred. I'm not talking about Chris Henry here. I'm speaking in general. Saying it's sad when all young people die is complete BS. Dylan Klebold was 17. Is his life sacred?


I forgot we are comparing Combine and acts like it to this, sorry.

Chris Henry fell off a speeding truck in a dispute with his wife-to-be. No one knows the reason for their disagreement, nor is it anyone's business. But it's hardly the death of a delinquent.



Yeah, I'm sure it sucks being his kids now not having a father; however, what kind of father do you think Chris Henry would be?How are you going to sit here and question what type of father he was? Because he had committed criminal acts before? That has nothing to do with how he was with his children, man.

I don't know why I'm wasting my time with this.. we all have different views on this.. leave it alone

keyboard
12-18-2009, 03:41 PM
You know NOTHING about the situation in reality. He's bad for the stuff he did, but you don't know if she was a mega-cunt or if she hurt his kids or who knows.Going after the woman who was fleeing in a car from a man with a track record of violence in a domestic dispute? Wow, classy move.

Oh, I forgot. Women in the lives of professional athletes don't count for much. My bad. Chris Henry was a hero.

dw13
12-18-2009, 03:44 PM
Going after the woman who was fleeing in a car from a man with a track record of violence in a domestic dispute? Wow, classy move.

Oh, I forgot. Women in the lives of professional athletes don't count for much. My bad. Chris Henry was a hero.

I'm not sure what Bill is getting at but, do we know exactly what he was doing on the back of that truck? I don't, maybe its been released but I haven't read it.

And why do you keep getting at this saint/hero talk? NO ONE said that..

b_illin
12-18-2009, 03:55 PM
I'm not sure what Bill is getting at but, do we know exactly what he was doing on the back of that truck? I don't, maybe its been released but I haven't read it.

And why do you keep getting at this saint/hero talk? NO ONE said that..

Sounds like he was the aggressor.....still doesn't mean he deserves the shit that has been said.

http://www.examiner.com/x-28665-Atlanta-Entertainment-Industry-Examiner~y2009m12d17-Chris-Henry-911-Tape-Released

keyboard
12-18-2009, 04:13 PM
I'm not sure what Bill is getting at but, do we know exactly what he was doing on the back of that truck? I don't, maybe its been released but I haven't read it.Are you really this naive in real life, or just on a message board? You remind me of the people who are saying the wife should be brought up on manslaughter chargers. Just unreal what people are saying to protect this guy.

dw13
12-18-2009, 04:17 PM
Are you really this naive in real life, or just on a message board? You remind me of the people who are saying the wife should be brought up on manslaughter chargers. Just unreal what people are saying to protect this guy.

I'm not protecting anyone, Kam, nor am I naive. He has had a trouble past, but from what we hear and have seen over the past while from him, he has been trying and succeeding at turning his image around. If we come to find out he was going after his wife-to-be and attempting to hurt her or anything like that, then so be it and my attitude towards this will change.

I'm not trying to protect this guy, I just don't understand why you think people are trying to make him out to be a "saint" or "hero" when all we are doing is giving the guy a fucking break.

He was trying to turn his life around, and he is a father of 3 children who will now grow up without a father, which is seriously depressing. Maybe if/when you become a father you'll understand that more.

I'm done with this thread, we all have our different views on this, just like the Steve McNair saga.

RIP Chris Henry

Doctego
12-18-2009, 04:27 PM
I've known women in abusive relationships with guys who have done things as crazy as jump on the back of their cars while they were moving/break the windows in frustration. If Henry survived that fall, I'd imagine his fianceé's life would have gotten a lot, lot harder. Hopefully with him gone she can cash in and turn her life and the life of her children around.

Everyone who says none of us have lived perfect lives so we shouldn't criticize, speak for yourself. I've lived a very good life, I'm proud of myself, and I don't think dying means you are free from criticism. If anything, it's the opposite. Now is the time we should consider the way he lived and make sure we don't commemorate his life in any way, because it sets a pretty fucked up example.

All I know is If someone loves you, they would stop and check if you were okay once you fell off the back of a truck.

If you want to criticize a dead man, feel free. I'd like to think that you would at least have enough respect that you would make sure that you had all of the facts straight before you got on your high horse.

That's all. Let the body cool down and let the facts, not media opinion, state how he lived his life.

keyboard
12-18-2009, 04:53 PM
He was trying to turn his life around, and he is a father of 3 children who will now grow up without a father, which is seriously depressing. Maybe if/when you become a father you'll understand that more.
From the mouth of Chris Rock:
You know the worst thing about niggas? Niggas always want some credit for some shit they supposed to do. For some shit they just supposed to do: A nigga will brag about some shit a normal man just does. A nigga will say some shit like, "I take care of my kids."

You're supposed to, you dumb mothafucka. What are you talkin' about? What are you braggin' about? What kind of ignorant shit is that?

"I ain't never been to jail."

What do you want, a cookie?

You're not supposed to go to jail you low expectation having mothafucka.
If you want to criticize a dead man, feel free. I'd like to think that you would at least have enough respect that you would make sure that you had all of the facts straight before you got on your high horse.It takes a lot more than staying out of jail for a year after countless encounters with the law to earn my respect. Dying afte a domestic dispute doesn't earn respect in my eyes either. You guys give respect too easily to athletes. It's bizarre.

Here is a comment I read from that "Role Model" article that sums up my thoughts pretty nicely:

It's a bummer, BUT not the tragedy that many of you think and believe it is. When this kind of person gets this kind of attention and RIP's he is getting from us all, then we are in a very sad place. We don't blink an eye when we change the channel when little starving kids show up on our tv screens, yet Chris Henry is lauded by thousands here on the web. I mourn the loss of our humanity.

Kyle
12-18-2009, 04:57 PM
Very good quote at the end of your post. People don't even realize that they behave totally different over the death of an athlete regardless if hes a scumbag or not. We know good people get murdered dozens of time daily yet we don't bother ourselves to find out and offer our RIP in their direction. But when an asshole football player dies, the entire nation gets a bit bummed out for a day and everyone wants to show their condolences. There are way more worthy targets of those sentiments.

And I repeat in response to turning his life around: Then how the fuck do you explain his death? Sounds like he didn't change shit to me.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
12-18-2009, 05:22 PM
:lol:

You're making Santa a little too old testament no?

lol.

Shit this argument is ridiculous. I'm just pissed I didn't have him in my dead pool list. Jack pot! :p

eff1ngham
12-18-2009, 05:35 PM
No, it's not. Every life is NOT sacred. I'm not talking about Chris Henry here. I'm speaking in general. Saying it's sad when all young people die is complete BS. Dylan Klebold was 17. Is his life sacred?

No.

But Chris Henry wasn't a Columbine shooter. He wasn't Hitler. And 26 was too young for him to die.


People don't even realize that they behave totally different over the death of an athlete regardless if hes a scumbag or not. We know good people get murdered dozens of time daily yet we don't bother ourselves to find out and offer our RIP in their direction. But when an asshole football player dies, the entire nation gets a bit bummed out for a day and everyone wants to show their condolences. There are way more worthy targets of those sentiments..

If you take the time to start a thread about every person who dies, then I'll go in there and post my condolences ;) This is a sports-centric message board, so what do you really expect? People responding to posts about his death doesn't mean they don't care about other people passing away. Would you go to a CNN message board and complain that they're taking too much time talking about interest rates and not talking about who's playing on PP1 for the Rangers?

But in all seriousness, saying "RIP" doesn't mean you like the person, or that you agree with the choices they made. It's just offering some condolences on their death, which you can do even if you're not that person's best friend

Kyle
12-18-2009, 05:42 PM
Well said, but I still think people get in a particularly bummed/depressed state of mind when things like this happen over much more depressing things happening every day (See: The Biggie/Pac heaven comment). Some are just saying RIP but others are saying more and I (and clearly a few others) don't think this is worth that extra sentiment that so many are giving.

Yes, this board specifically hasn't been dramatic about it. But it doesn't change that America in general has made a huge deal out of this, some are being very dramatic, others hysterical, and tons are praising the guy when he was by all accounts a bad person. This was a relatively big story which bugged myself (and obviously a few others here) because it doesn't deserve the coverage.

dw13
12-18-2009, 05:47 PM
Good post eff. Completely agree.

Kyle
12-18-2009, 05:48 PM
Dude, I've said like 20 times now that it was not what was said on this board that provoked me to say what I said. You keep putting words in my mouth and telling me I think everyone here said hes a saint when I did not say that once.

dw13
12-18-2009, 05:50 PM
Dude, I've said like 20 times now that it was not what was said on this board that provoked me to say what I said. You keep putting words in my mouth and telling me I think everyone here said hes a saint when I did not say that once.

I edited my post like you do most of the times :lol:

This board kicks ass on all subjects, it really does.

Kyle
12-18-2009, 05:58 PM
I love it man. I'll admit I missed how hilarious some conversations got five yars ago when it was just 10-12 of us posting actively and basically just telling eachother to fuck off all day (While having some good debates in between). But I also like where the boards at now, still good discussions going on all the time and I think they found the right balance with whats allowed to be said here. Generally things have been more intelligent around here this last year or so than its ever been (As long as I've been here at least).

Hockeyis#1
12-18-2009, 05:59 PM
It's a bummer, BUT not the tragedy that many of you think and believe it is. When this kind of person gets this kind of attention and RIP's he is getting from us all, then we are in a very sad place. We don't blink an eye when we change the channel when little starving kids show up on our tv screens, yet Chris Henry is lauded by thousands here on the web. I mourn the loss of our humanity.
+1
Pretty much sums up my view on all of this.

Famous people who die in general get this kind of treatment. Your name has to practically be synonymous with really bad person to not get this "tragic loss" style of coverage. It makes me wonder if Dubya Bush gets this when his time is up.....

dw13
12-18-2009, 06:00 PM
I love it man. I'll admit I missed how hilarious some conversations got five yars ago when it was just 10-12 of us posting actively and basically just telling eachother to fuck off all day (While having some good debates in between). But I also like where the boards at now, still good discussions going on all the time and I think they found the right balance with whats allowed to be said here. Generally things have been more intelligent around here this last year or so than its ever been (As long as I've been here at least).

I was just a lurker back then, and mostly on the Fantasy Hockey side.. which is funny how that is my least visited side on HI now. Hockeyinformer Forums and I talk more Football, Baseball and random shit than anything else :lol:

Hockeyis#1
12-18-2009, 06:03 PM
I love it man. I'll admit I missed how hilarious some conversations got five yars ago when it was just 10-12 of us posting actively and basically just telling eachother to fuck off all day
Somin2fear vs Gambit with the photoshops :lol:

Kyle
12-18-2009, 06:27 PM
:lol::lol::lol:

MrScientist
12-18-2009, 10:56 PM
Shady has gone missing since Bill called his shit :lol:

Also, I recall the Lightning DVD that was Photoshopped with Andreychuk holding the penis, that was awesome

Shady6833
12-19-2009, 01:56 AM
Shady has gone missing since Bill called his shit :lol:

Also, I recall the Lightning DVD that was Photoshopped with Andreychuk holding the penis, that was awesome

Not MIA just had to work and live a life that i have beside this website. Also as for calling my shit, that`s alright. It is my honest belief that pac and biggie are chillin in heaven. If people want to mock me for my spiritual beliefs that`s all good lol. Not like I`m gonna cry over it. I believe everyone goes to Heaven, because I believe in a forgiving God. I respect Bill and anyone else who feels differently about this but I`m not going to get bent out of shape over it haha.

MrScientist
12-19-2009, 11:08 AM
Not MIA just had to work and live a life that i have beside this website. Also as for calling my shit, that`s alright. It is my honest belief that pac and biggie are chillin in heaven. If people want to mock me for my spiritual beliefs that`s all good lol. Not like I`m gonna cry over it. I believe everyone goes to Heaven, because I believe in a forgiving God. I respect Bill and anyone else who feels differently about this but I`m not going to get bent out of shape over it haha.

No one has a life outside of HI, get it right!! :lol:

Kyle
12-19-2009, 12:03 PM
I believe everyone goes to Heaven


Oh the temptation...

Shady6833
12-19-2009, 12:11 PM
No one has a life outside of HI, get it right!! :lol:

lol, well its not much of a life :beer:

b_illin
12-19-2009, 12:17 PM
For the record, I wasn't trying to be a dick, nor was it a comment that 'Biggie and Pac' aren't in heaven...it was just totally ridiculous to read. I LOL'ed.

phaneuf6
12-19-2009, 12:43 PM
For the record, I wasn't trying to be a dick, nor was it a comment that 'Biggie and Pac' aren't in heaven...it was just totally ridiculous to read. I LOL'ed.
+1. :lol:

Shady6833
12-19-2009, 12:49 PM
For the record, I wasn't trying to be a dick, nor was it a comment that 'Biggie and Pac' aren't in heaven...it was just totally ridiculous to read. I LOL'ed.

no man I didn`t take it is a dick move or anything. I realize that sometimes I say things that seem pretty crazy.

b_illin
12-19-2009, 01:01 PM
no man I didn`t take it is a dick move or anything. I realize that sometimes I say things that seem pretty crazy.
We all do! :beer:

Hockeyis#1
12-19-2009, 11:08 PM
I believe everyone goes to Heaven.
Yeah, if you're a dog. :rolleyes:

I'm liking the Bolts over the Bengals this week. Interested to see Merriman/Johnson on the field together. I'm expecting some fireworks...

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
12-22-2009, 06:03 PM
Not sure if anyone is interested but there are a bunch of photos from Chris Henry's funeral --

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/gallery;_ylt=Am.kXKEXbxcbEFnP4yf87.cdsLYF

b_illin
12-22-2009, 07:24 PM
Open casket funerals are creepy.

dw13
01-04-2010, 10:28 AM
1/11 0 Yards, 1 INT. Nice game Palmer :D

King_Killah
04-22-2010, 08:42 PM
Jermaine Gresham! For the longest had him going to New England. Switched that pick to Dez Bryant. I am pretty surprised that the Bungals went this way.

King_Killah
04-23-2010, 06:45 PM
Carlos Dunlap. Like this kid out of Gatorland. Giant.

dw13
04-23-2010, 06:46 PM
Carlos Dunlap. Like this kid out of Gatorland. Giant.

Ha.

Spartan
04-23-2010, 10:33 PM
LOL! perfect Bengal. They just don't care, but I love it.

Spartan
05-04-2010, 03:14 PM
Pacman to sign with the Bengals per Profootballtalk.com

I think he might fit in there.

King_Killah
05-04-2010, 04:50 PM
Pacman to sign with the Bengals per Profootballtalk.com

I think he might fit in there.

So true.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
06-29-2010, 02:02 AM
Interesting stuff considering how young Chris Henry was --

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d818dea67&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true


When Glaspy flew in to Morgantown from Belle Chasse, La., Monday, she wasn't aware of what doctors found in her son's brain tissue. Doctors with the WVU-affiliated Brain Injury Research Institution found Henry to be the youngest active player to have evidence of Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy at the time of death. He was 26.

What's interesting, Bailes said, is that Henry was just 26, and neither NFL nor WVU records show he was diagnosed with a concussion during his playing career.

But it doesn't take a collision with another player for brain trauma to occur.

"The brain floats freely in your skull," Omalu said. "If you're moving very quickly and suddenly stop, the brain bounces."

CTE carries specific neurobehavioral symptoms, Bailies said -- typically, failure at personal and business relationships, use of drugs and alcohol, depression and suicide.

"Chris Henry did not have that entire spectrum, and we don't know if there's a cause and effect here," Bailes said. "It certainly raises the question and raises our curiosity. We're just here to report our findings. That may be for others to decipher."

two24four
07-27-2010, 05:17 PM
T.O. signed with CIN today, 1 year $2M deal.

T.O. and Johnson on the same team, oh my.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
07-27-2010, 05:28 PM
WOW ! WTF? I wonder what this does for Carson this year. He was the one pushing for TO. I didn't think it would go down. Seems like CP is poised for a bounce back stellar campaign if all these egos can get along?

Asking b/c I just picked Palmer up via trade to start in place of my other delinquent quarterback.

looch17
07-27-2010, 08:41 PM
WOW ! WTF? I wonder what this does for Carson this year. He was the one pushing for TO. I didn't think it would go down. Seems like CP is poised for a bounce back stellar campaign if all these egos can get along?

Asking b/c I just picked Palmer up via trade to start in place of my other delinquent quarterback.As soon as I saw this I thought of you Sponge.;)

boredguy
07-27-2010, 08:48 PM
As much as i hate TO i think this is a good signing for Cincy.

two24four
07-27-2010, 08:59 PM
As much as i hate TO i think this is a good signing for Cincy.

Same here, if this works out, watch out for Cincy.

dw13
07-27-2010, 10:27 PM
Don't rate TO's skillset that high to think this could turn out to be a big time move for Cinci.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
07-28-2010, 01:15 AM
Don't rate TO's skillset that high to think this could turn out to be a big time move for Cinci.

It's pretty hard for me to believe that TO won't help that somewhat predictable offense (last year) become a little less predictable.. and a lot more productive. Even if all his presence does is open up Ochocinco a bit more. They have brought in weapons for Carson and it will be interesting to see how it all comes together. The overall product may not be AFC championship or SB quality but I am thinking they are capable of having a very productive game through the air and on the ground if they play their cards right.

dw13
07-28-2010, 11:59 AM
It's pretty hard for me to believe that TO won't help that somewhat predictable offense (last year) become a little less predictable.. and a lot more productive. Even if all his presence does is open up Ochocinco a bit more. They have brought in weapons for Carson and it will be interesting to see how it all comes together. The overall product may not be AFC championship or SB quality but I am thinking they are capable of having a very productive game through the air and on the ground if they play their cards right.

Fair enough. I just think TO is just that, a #2 receiver. There are plenty of #2's in the league I'd take over TO at this point. I think he is going to help them, but I'm not sure it's going to be a move that takes Cinci over the top. To be honest, I think they overachieved last year and they better hope Palmer's end of the season problems don't come into this year because Benson isn't going to be someone they can lean on. Palmer is going to be throwing the football alot. Gresham for me, was alot bigger of a move then TO. Gresham could potentially catch 65 balls this year as a Rookie.

FlyGuy78
07-28-2010, 03:31 PM
Fair enough. I just think TO is just that, a #2 receiver. There are plenty of #2's in the league I'd take over TO at this point. I think he is going to help them, but I'm not sure it's going to be a move that takes Cinci over the top. To be honest, I think they overachieved last year and they better hope Palmer's end of the season problems don't come into this year because Benson isn't going to be someone they can lean on. Palmer is going to be throwing the football alot. Gresham for me, was alot bigger of a move then TO. Gresham could potentially catch 65 balls this year as a Rookie.

For my $$$ league I'm hoping you are wrong. I have Benson and am hoping that he can repeat what he did last season. From what I've heard Cincy is still going to run the ball a lot.

Snipes16
07-28-2010, 04:30 PM
Hows that Antonio Bryant signing looking today...they paid him 7.85 in a signing bonus, he's scheduled for 1.55 more in salary, his knee is swelled like a balloon and he did it all without a mask or gun.

well done

Spartan
07-30-2010, 07:40 AM
Fair enough. I just think TO is just that, a #2 receiver. There are plenty of #2's in the league I'd take over TO at this point. I think he is going to help them, but I'm not sure it's going to be a move that takes Cinci over the top. To be honest, I think they overachieved last year and they better hope Palmer's end of the season problems don't come into this year because Benson isn't going to be someone they can lean on. Palmer is going to be throwing the football alot. Gresham for me, was alot bigger of a move then TO. Gresham could potentially catch 65 balls this year as a Rookie.I totally agree with this, Gresham will mean a ton more to this team. They have never had a quality tight end for Palmer.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-24-2010, 03:31 PM
This guy is a fucking riot :lol:

Chad Ochocinco (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2584) already has been hit with his first fine of the new NFL season -- nearly three weeks before the games start to count.


The NFL fined Ochocinco $25,000 for two violations -- possessing an electronic device and posting messages on Twitter -- during the Cincinnati Bengals (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/cin/cincinnati-bengals)' preseason game against the Philadelphia Eagles (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-eagles) on Aug. 20.

NFL players are not permitted to post messages on social media websites starting 90 minutes before kickoff and until postgame media obligations are fulfilled.

Ochocinco posted two messages -- one at 6:50 p.m. ET and another at 9:53 p.m. ET. The game kicked off at 8:07 p.m. ET.

His tweet at 9:53 p.m. was regarding a hit he absorbed in the game.

"Man Im sick of getting hit like that , its the damn preseason [expletive]! 1day I'm gone jump up and start throwing hay makers , #Tylenolplease," he wrote.

Ochocinco commented on the fine and apologized to the NFL on Tuesday -- through Twitter, of course.

"I've been fined by the league a substantial amount of money for tweeting, 1st time twitter hasn't made me money but cost me money," he wrote.

In his apology he said he "won't do it again."

"Dear NFL I apologize for tweeting during the game but that was 2 months of my Bugatti payments you just took from me,I won't do it again," he wrote.

dw13
09-12-2010, 01:02 PM
Truly are the Bungles today. Do they even have an offensive line out there?

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
10-01-2010, 04:58 PM
oops! :lol:


Charity phone number on Ochocinco's cereal box goes to sex line (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Charity-phone-number-on-Ochocinco-s-cereal-box-g?urn=nfl-273633)

By Chris Chase (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner?author=Chris+Chase)
http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nfl_experts__27/ept_sports_nfl_experts-787139726-1285859350.jpg?ymWwj2DD1xK1T712

A phone number printed on Chad Ochocinco's (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5483/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5483/news) cereal box goes to a phone sex line instead of a children's charity (http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/region_central_cincinnati/sex-line-misprint-on-ochocinco%27s-cereal), a family in Cincinnati discovered earlier this week.
Tara Sand called the number printed on the box of Ochocinco's to learn more about the charity Feed The Children. But when she and her 9-year-old daughter dialed 1-800-HELP-FTC on their speakerphone, they heard a sultry voice trying to lure them into a sex chat for $2.99 a minute. (I called it earlier, of course. It's pretty raunchy.)

The number for the charity is actually 1-888-HELP-FTC.

Ochocinco told a local news station that the mix-up was clearly a mistake and that he's confident the manufacturer will correct the problem.

"You do have to admit it is kind of funny," Sand told ABC 9 in Cincinnati (http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/region_central_cincinnati/sex-line-misprint-on-ochocinco%27s-cereal). "When we dialed it for the second time, I sat there and thought 'are you kidding me?' Nobody has found this yet?"

She also told the news station that she hopes her discovery doesn't give the Bengals or Chad a bad name. "He's obviously trying to do something great by doing this [for charity]," she said.

What kind of response is that from the mother? Why is she so reasoned and rational about an honest mistake? Where's the overreaction, the threat of lawsuit and the "won't somebody please think of the children?" sentiment?

Kroger grocery stores in Cincinnati announced Thursday that they're pulling all boxes of Ochocinco's from their shelves.

two24four
01-23-2011, 02:37 PM
Chris Mortensen twitter.


Filed to ESPN: Carson Palmer will demand a trade from Bengals; willing to play retirement card, if necessary.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
01-24-2011, 03:42 PM
Palmer's agent is talking about the lack of success and how Palmer strongly feels a separation would be in the best interest of both parties.

Interesting.

Doctego
01-24-2011, 04:04 PM
Palmer's agent is talking about the lack of success and how Palmer strongly feels a separation would be in the best interest of both parties.

Interesting.

I could definitely see him moving to the NFC West.

two24four
01-24-2011, 04:06 PM
I could definitely see him moving to the NFC West.

49ers?

Doctego
01-24-2011, 04:12 PM
49ers?

49ers or Cards came to mind.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
01-24-2011, 04:55 PM
49ers or Cards came to mind.

Definitely. He'd be a good fit in either spot, I think.

King_Killah
01-24-2011, 07:54 PM
Two news topics I heard today on Palmer was the possibiliy of him going to Carolina and that Mike Brown refuses to trade Palmer. Honestly, I don't see Palmer going anywhere and I certainly don't see him packing it in. However, I could see him in San Francisco or Arizona also, and think that either spot would be a nice fit. McNabb will likely end up in one of those spots. There is a lot of talk around here that both of those teams have been and are inquiring and throwing trade offers to Philly for Kolb. We'll see... Sucked that he had to not only deal with 85, but also TO at the same time.

dw13
01-24-2011, 08:58 PM
Yeah cause he didn't ask for the Bengals to sign TO or nothing...

King_Killah
01-25-2011, 07:58 PM
Yeah cause he didn't ask for the Bengals to sign TO or nothing...

Not the point.... The point is having one of those guys on your team could be more than one can handle, so one can only imagine having two of them... TO had a decent year. 85 had a decent year. There is only so much ball to go around. And to have two ballhogs...kinda hurts the rest of the receiving game.

King_Killah
01-26-2011, 06:58 PM
Ochocinco going back to Chad Johnson!


Chad Johnson (http://sports.search.yahoo.com/search?p=Chad+Johnson+NFL&fr=sports-us-ss) is making a comeback. Three years after changing his last name to Ochocinco, the man born Chad Javon Johnson will be going back to his given surname.
"I've done enough with Ochocinco," the former Mr. Johnson told ESPN's Trey Wingo. Yes, like having the least productive stretch of his career since the name change became official.
Ochocinco didn't elaborate on why he was making the change, but given that his return to Cincinnati is questionable, the logical explanation is that he wants a fresh start wherever he ends up. That means no silly name changes and probably no fighting with his coach (http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/rap_sheet/index.php/2011/01/24/bengals-coach-marvin-lewis-on-ochocinco-and-the-patriots-belichicks-smarter-than-that/), like he's currently doing now. (If Ochocinco does stay in Cincinnati, he'd have to pay for the unsold "Ochocinco" jerseys.)
I didn't think it was possible for me to care about anything less than whether Brett Favre (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/1025/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/1025/news) retired or not. Then Ochocinco announced the name re-change. Frankly, I feel used by this whole process. For months I resisted calling him Ochocinco because it was so preposterous and felt like when I asked all my friends to call me He-Man. Of course, I was in first grade at the time.
At some point, though, he became Ochocinco. Whether it was the repetition in hearing it or the fact that I had to write it here on Shutdown Corner, I don't know. It was a gradual process. Whenever it happened, it happened, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Nobody really wanted to call him Ochocinco but eventually we all did.
And isn't that the grand achievement in all this? He managed to make having "OCHOCINCO" on the back of his jersey so normal that it lost its absurdity. That's why he's going back to Johnson, not because he wants to mature, but because Ochocinco lost its shock value. Those teenage girls at the mall don't keep their pink hair forever either.
Don't stop mangling your Spanish quite yet, though. Ochocinco hasn't filed the paperwork yet for the name change and has gone back on this promise before. In 2009, he said he'd change it back if Darrelle Revis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8268/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8268/news) shut him down in a game. Revis did and Ochocinco didn't follow through.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
01-26-2011, 10:31 PM
saw that the other day. what a fool.

King_Killah
04-28-2011, 07:24 PM
AJ Green. Palmer isn't going anywhere. Huge help for Palmer.

two24four
04-29-2011, 05:43 PM
AJ Green. Palmer isn't going anywhere. Huge help for Palmer.

Maybe he is gone, now that they have taken Dalton in round 2.

Green and Dalton, not bad.

King_Killah
04-29-2011, 07:12 PM
Maybe he is gone, now that they have taken Dalton in round 2.

Green and Dalton, not bad.

That is a nice duo...

I actually thought they might have traded up to get Newton, Locker, or Gabbert.

dw13
04-29-2011, 07:16 PM
That is a nice duo...

I actually thought they might have traded up to get Newton, Locker, or Gabbert.

Gruden liked Dalton more than all of them.

Dalton can run a West Coast offense, that's it.

Pillow arm.

Won't be anything special.

King_Killah
09-22-2011, 07:33 PM
CINCINNATI (AP)—For authorities tracking a marijuana shipment from California, the trail ended unexpectedly at the home of a Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/cin/) player in suburban northern Kentucky where police say they found more drugs.
No arrests have been made. Police were still investigating the case Thursday that has entangled Bengals wide receiver Jerome Simpson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8823/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8823/news), a North Carolina native in his fourth NFL season. A package containing 2 1/2 pounds of marijuana was tracked to Simpson’s home.

Are we surprised in the least bit..... Another Bengal criminal?!

Buckeye
09-27-2011, 01:35 PM
http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/4977/09/4977_1317062660.jpg

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
09-27-2011, 05:06 PM
lol