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b_illin
04-24-2008, 12:53 PM
I wanted to see some discussion on the Jared Allen trade, but decided I might as well starts a Purple People Eater's thread instead.

So, what does everyone think of the deal?

(me, I say good deal for both. With the 2 Pat's at DT, Allen should be a beast this season...well, more of a beast). KC got lucky getting a 1st and two 3rd's for guy everyone knew they couldn't afford to keep.)

Spartan
04-24-2008, 01:02 PM
I'm a big fan of trading picks for proven players, no matter the price. It's pretty crazy when you look at past drafts and find out how few players turn out stars. The Vikes were looking at Phillip Merling at their draft spot and Jared Allen is way better for them. That team has the best lines O and D combined in the whole league and that is good for 8 wins even if your QB is putrid.

two24four
04-24-2008, 01:11 PM
This was a great trade for both teams, KC now has the 5th overall and 17th ovarall picks in the draft, not bad if you ask me, great way to rebuild fast.

Edit: while we are talking about the draft, I heard that Miami is trying to get another 1st round pick by trading Jason Taylor to get it.

Spartan
04-24-2008, 01:18 PM
This was a great trade for both teams, KC now has the 5th overall and 17th ovarall picks in the draft, not bad if you ask me, great way to rebuild fast.

Edit: while we are talking about the draft, I heard that Miami is trying to get another 1st round pick by trading Jason Taylor to get it.

I heard they want a first, but that will be hard for a 34 yr. old with questionable commitment to football going forward. I would say a team will give a 2nd but 1st rounder is a stretch.

King_Killah
04-26-2008, 05:33 PM
I heard they want a first, but that will be hard for a 34 yr. old with questionable commitment to football going forward. I would say a team will give a 2nd but 1st rounder is a stretch.

Exactly...with the talks pretty much directly from Taylor saying he will retire if traded, I think that kept teams away.

two24four
04-27-2008, 12:44 PM
Vikings just took QB John David Booty in the 5th round.

King_Killah
04-27-2008, 03:00 PM
Vikings just took QB John David Booty in the 5th round.

I like the Booty selection. Tarvaris Jackson, eh... never really impressed me in college or in his time with Minnesota. I think Booty can play. Get them a WR and that offense is pretty tight.

Peterson, Sidney Rice...

King_Killah
06-17-2008, 01:25 PM
Charlie Rogers worth a shot???



Former Detroit Lions wide receiver Charles Rogers made a verbal agreement to play with the Montreal Alouettes of the Canadian Football League last month, but he never signed a contract and didn't attend the training camp that started on May 29. Former Saginaw High coach Don Durrett said the No. 2 pick of the 2003 draft -- released by the Lions in 2006 -- is still hunting for an NFL job. ''He's had a couple workouts with some teams and has a workout with the Minnesota Vikings,'' Durrett said. ''He's getting caught up (with playing in the NFL again).

I am quite sure he is hunting and HOPING for an NFL job, but the CFL may be a better spot for him.

King_Killah
07-17-2008, 10:54 AM
Amid speculation that the Minnesota Vikings could be interested in acquiring QB Brett Favre (http://www.footballguys.com/FavrBr00-1.php), HC Brad Childress gave his incumbent starter, Tavaris Jackson, a vote of confidence. Childress said "I just think he's right where he needs to be in terms of being a third-year quarterback. Would I have liked to see him play 16 games last year? Absolutely, I would have. But I think he's in a natural evolution. He understands what it means to play an NFL season as a starter with all eyes on him, dissecting everything."

There is actually a lot of praise in Minnesota's camp for Tavaris Jackson. A lot of positivity. For me, I am still a little skeptical on him, but he elevated himself on the radar a little.

FlyGuy78
07-17-2008, 11:03 AM
I think Tavaris needs a little more time, but I have seen much worse QB's than him over the years.

dw13
07-17-2008, 12:08 PM
Booty could handle that offense pretty well I think. They don't need a superstar back there, just someone who can run the O.

Spartan
07-17-2008, 04:57 PM
Booty could handle that offense pretty well I think. They don't need a superstar back there, just someone who can run the O.No doubt, any of us can hand it to Peterson.

two24four
07-17-2008, 06:07 PM
No doubt, any of us can hand it to Peterson.

:lol::lol:

King_Killah
08-03-2008, 05:27 PM
"I feel totally different," Vikings RB Adrian Peterson (http://www.footballguys.com/PeteAd01-1.php) said.
Peterson said he is more comfortable with the offense and feels like a more complete back, capable of playing on every down. He spent the offseason gaining a better understanding of blocking schemes and protections. He's also worked on being a more patient runner, allowing his linemen to set up their blocks rather than always looking for the big play.

"He's stepping up his game professionally," running backs coach Eric Bieniemy said. "He's taking his playbook home. Things are starting to make a little bit more sense to him. I think that's the giant step he's taking forward."

This is pretty scary for Vikings opponents and fantasy teams that play Peterson any given week. Any rookie player can get by on physical skill, but when the physically skilled start adding the mental part of the game, look out... I still have LT #1... AP is a very close #2.

FlyGuy78
08-03-2008, 05:41 PM
this makes me very happy since I have AP in our $$$ league. :D

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-18-2008, 01:49 PM
Any news on QB T.Jackson? I heard he fucked up his knee and it might be a sprained MCL/ACL?

FlyGuy78
08-18-2008, 03:20 PM
Vikings QB Jackson diagnosed with sprained right MCL

Aug 17, 4:16 pm EDT

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minnesota (Ticker) - Minnesota Vikings (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/min/;_ylt=Ali2xke2YDjYvrpL54D27rYLubYF) quarterback Tarvaris Jackson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7813/;_ylt=ApbNA_dY6rY7AuLGBdi_eFsLubYF), who left Saturday night’s preseason game with the Baltimore Ravens (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/bal/;_ylt=AvwgXeh6vW1HfskbG5thAlELubYF), was diagnosed with a sprained right MCL on Sunday.

Jackson was injured when he was tackled by middle linebacker Ray Lewis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3542/;_ylt=Ajk35LsThRyd0KVdyAT4UjQLubYF) on a scramble late in the first quarter.
Before leaving the contest, the third-year quarterback was 7-of-11 for 82 yards and a touchdown pass. In his two preseason games, Jackson is 15-for-22 for 200 yards.
In 2007, the 25-year-old threw for 1,911 yards with nine touchdowns and 12 interceptions in 12 games.

The Vikings have two remaining games in the preseason and will open the regular season against the Green Bay Packers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/gnb/;_ylt=AiIEE7vAwwHfCYx7GIBWEw4LubYF) on September 8.

If Jackson is sidelined for an extended period, Gus Frerotte (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/2869/;_ylt=AvwoisaXddNws060zJ40w0ALubYF) will fill in as the starting quarterback. The 15-year veteran threw for 1,014 yards with seven scoring strikes and 12 interceptions last season in eight games for the St. Louis Rams (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/stl/;_ylt=Apx5jTey9wWnOHQiPjBdqlILubYF).

King_Killah
08-19-2008, 12:36 PM
A little more...


Minnesota Vikings QB Tarvaris Jackson (http://www.footballguys.com/JackTa00-1.php) has sprained his MCL, according to an MRI he had today. Jackson injured his knee in the team's preseason win over the Baltimore Ravens last night. The injury is not considered serious enough to prevent Jackson from starting the regular season opener.

Positive note is that it isn't an ugly knee injury. He got up slow, but he jogged on his own back tot he huddle. Jackson shouldn't miss much time.

King_Killah
08-27-2008, 01:43 PM
Good news for the Vikings as QB Tavaris Jackson was able to participate in 7-on-7 drills, while sporting a knee brace to protect his sprained MCL. His playing status for Thursday's game against Dallas is uncertain. "I don't have my range of motion right now. Once I get that back in the next couple of days, I should be fine," said Jackson who also added that he is relatively pain-free. Also practicing were receivers Sidney Rice (http://www.footballguys.com/RiceSi01-1.php) (illness) and Bernard Berrian (http://www.footballguys.com/BerrBe00-1.php) (toe). Rice said he is feeling fine, while Berrian admitted he felt rusty, but that his toe was in good shape.

Good news all around for the Vikes here.

King_Killah
08-29-2008, 05:37 PM
Vikings QB Tarvaris Jackson (http://www.footballguys.com/JackTa00-1.php) was on the field prior to Thursday's game against the Cowboys, doing some light work with WR Bernard Berrian (http://www.footballguys.com/BerrBe00-1.php), but more importantly, he was walking with an obvious limp.

Yikes... That is not the news we wanted to see. He should be ready for week 1, but it will be close.

King_Killah
09-03-2008, 03:05 PM
Minnesota Vikings QB Tarvaris Jackson (http://www.footballguys.com/JackTa00-1.php) said after today's practice that he will play Monday night at Green Bay. Jackson missed the final three preseason games because of a sprained MCL in his right knee. "I feel good. Through the whole process I'm feeling better each day," Jackson said. "I had a couple days off, couple days to rehab. I feel a lot better." Jackson said there is nothing he can't do at this point.

Good news for Jackson and his owners (however many there is). He is going to want to come in and upstage Aaron Rodgers. I see this as one of the better games of the week.

two24four
09-03-2008, 03:13 PM
Good news for Jackson and his owners (however many there is). He is going to want to come in and upstage Aaron Rodgers. I see this as one of the better games of the week.

I agree, what makes it even better is it's the Monday nighter.

Spartan
02-24-2009, 02:52 PM
Sage Rosenfels is a Viking. Traded from Houston for a 4th rounder.

King_Killah
05-21-2009, 10:38 AM
Judd Zulgad, of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings RB Adrian Peterson (http://www.footballguys.com/PeteAd01-1.php) said he senses a new attitude around the team after they made the playoffs last season. 'From me being here going into my third year with the guys I came in with, just a different focus as far as mindset. Being able to get the taste of the playoffs last year, I think that it's opened eyes from guys and it's OK, 'We really can make a run.' Just the focus. I see guys in here working out hard and there's really just like a different vibe in the locker room,' Peterson said.

Motivation... Always like when teams/players have motivation to perform. That said, not I am still not a fan of that offense outside of Peterson. I think they are hurting at QB. Jackson is terrible. Sage isn't a starter. He may be able to help out in a game or two, but to rely on him for a full or most of the season, yikes... Booty. Well... He has potential to be the best of the three. If they do bring in Favre. That is a plus. Their receivers. Come on... Berrian is your #1. Please. Bobby Wade. Ughh... That defense though... Hey, it's defense that wins championships, right?

two24four
05-21-2009, 10:49 AM
I think Favre will be starting come game 1 this season for Minny.

King_Killah
05-21-2009, 11:05 AM
I think Favre will be starting come game 1 this season for Minny.

As much as the is he/isn't he talk is, I believe Favre will be the starting QB as well.

King_Killah
05-28-2009, 10:58 AM
Alex Marvez, of FOXSports.com, reports Minnesota Vikings DT Pat Williams said during a radio interview that he believes QB Tarvaris Jackson (http://www.footballguys.com/JackTa00-1.php) needs to put in more time to try to become a better quarterback.

A split locker room. Never a good sign.

King_Killah
05-28-2009, 11:35 AM
...the other side:


Judd Zulgad, of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings QB Tarvaris Jackson (http://www.footballguys.com/JackTa00-1.php) said he was surprised DT Pat Williams went on radio to say Jackson needed to work harder to become a better quarterback. Jackson said he believes he works hard enough.

King_Killah
06-01-2009, 03:24 PM
Judd Zulgad, of The Minneapolis Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings
offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell said the team has probably put in
20 or 30 plays just to get the football in the hands of rookie WR Percy
Harvin.

Guess you are doing something right, making the team, and are something to watch for if plays are added specifically for you. Well done Harvin. Let's see who he has throwing him the ball... TavarASS Jackson or Brett Favre.

dw13
06-01-2009, 03:49 PM
Percy is going to be a force in the league. No one has seen a player like him, yet.

King_Killah
06-08-2009, 10:40 AM
Chris Mortensen and Ed Werder report that Brett Favre (http://www.footballguys.com/FavrBr00-1.php)'s determination to play quarterback this season for the Minnesota Vikings prompted him to undergo arthroscopic surgery to repair his injured passing shoulder recently, according to two sources. However, Favre remains unable to make a commitment because subsequent throwing sessions indicate the shoulder is not yet 100 percent.

Bus Cook seems to take the opposite approach that Drew Rosenhaus takes. Drew will Twitter every time one of his guys goes to Home Depot or takes a shit or whatever, while Cook is very quiet. Still speculation... but a lot points to Favre's return.

b_illin
06-08-2009, 11:40 AM
Bus Cook seems to take the opposite approach that Drew Rosenhaus takes. Drew will Twitter every time one of his guys goes to Home Depot or takes a shit or whatever, while Cook is very quiet. Still speculation... but a lot points to Favre's return.

:mad:

eff1ngham
06-08-2009, 03:17 PM
Didn't Childress say Favre has a week to let the Vikes know what he's planning to do before they move on? Not that ultimatums mean anything to Favre.....

King_Killah
06-09-2009, 10:58 AM
Contrary to a previous report, Judd Zulgad, of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, reports Sirius NFL Radio's Pat Kirwan said the Minnesota Vikings do not have a deadline for retired QB Brett Favre (http://www.footballguys.com/FavrBr00-1.php) (Jets) to decide whether he will sign with the Vikings or stayed retired.
Here's the conversation between Kirwin and his co-host Tim Ryan today.

Kirwan: "I heard you talking about Brett Favre (http://www.footballguys.com/FavrBr00-1.php), every show has been talking about him. I've got a couple of things to say. First off, let me make sure I'm clear on this to everyone who is listening. There is no deadline for Brett Favre (http://www.footballguys.com/FavrBr00-1.php) to come in by Friday. There is zero deadline. The story was made up, it's not true and trust me on that."

Ryan: "I still think he's coming July 15. By then he'll be signed up for the Minnnesota Vikings. ESPN calling it shoulder surgery, the biceps tendon attaches to a point up on the shoulder, did have that thing cleared out. We've been talking about it for a couple of months. That if he had the surgery he was coming back. It's clear Favre's on his way to Minnesota."

Kirwan: "Favre is on his way to Minnesota and it may be around July 15. It might be earlier. Remember how we said [that] first Step 1 is he healthy enough to play? He's in the process of having that resolved. Step 2, get a contract done. We don't think that's going to be a problem either so the first two hurdles are going to be easy to fly over and then come in and be part of this program. With the OTAs winding down, and maybe that's a good thing because he's not ready to throw, and all the business that goes on with football. Maybe it's better if he comes in at a quiet period of time and gets ready to roll. But I think you're right on it, I think he's on his way in. Friday may come and Friday may go and it will have nothing to do with him in a purple uniform."

Made up story...kinda strong words! Haha... But looking at the story both Kirwan and Ryan believe Favre will be a Viking, and still there is nothing to persuade me otherwise.

b_illin
06-09-2009, 11:37 AM
I ordered some shoes from Eastbay and they're call reps are in Green Bay. I asked the lady I was speaking to her thoughts and GBay's thoughts and basically it was that they are already upset for the most part with Favre (at this point) and if he signs with the Viking's, he will be hated by most ppl in Green Bay - any other team and there wouldn't be so much anger, but the Viking's is like he is spitting in the face of Green Bay. Suffice to say she was getting pretty worked up!

I'm with Green Bay, he's a fucking douche and I hope he gets severely hurt if he comes back. Fuck'im

Spartan
06-09-2009, 11:46 AM
I'm with Green Bay, he's a fucking douche and I hope he gets severely hurt if he comes back. Fuck'im:lol: Yeah if he ended up like Maggie in Million Dollar Baby, that would show him.

Seriously who cares? I personally think he is and has been a fun player to watch but also massively overrated. Its good to see that veil come off a bit, just annoying to hear about it daily. I think we are learning a lot more about the Vikings than we are Favre in this situation. If I were a Vikings fan, I would pretty much count this season out.

Doctego
06-09-2009, 03:23 PM
What about the story out today about Favre's family booking a block of hotel rooms in Green Bay during the weekend that the Vikings are playing there?? This is a done deal.

King_Killah
06-11-2009, 11:51 AM
More to the story...


Judd Zulgad, of the Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings head coach Brad Childress did not express concern during a local radio interview with how the potential addition of free-agent QB Brett Favre (http://www.footballguys.com/FavrBr00-1.php) (Jets) would impact current QBs Sage Rosenfels (http://www.footballguys.com/RoseSa00-1.php) and Tarvaris Jackson (http://www.footballguys.com/JackTa00-1.php). 'I'm not worried about that. I talked with Sage and Tarvaris. They are competitors. Do they like any of the conversation? Absolutely not. But they know this,' Childress said. 'I'm charged with adding and subtracting players from this team to make us better. Every day when I walk in this office there's not a day that I don't try to look and see if we can get better at some position. And if this is going to make us better down the road and it's got a chance to happen I'm going to take care of the Minnesota Vikings.'

So what is Childress saying exactly???

King_Killah
07-30-2009, 11:50 AM
Judd Zulgad, of The Minneapolis Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings QBs Tarvaris Jackson (http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/JackTa00-1.php) and Sage Rosenfels (http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/RoseSa00-1.php) will compete for the team's starting quarterback job when training camp opens now that QB Brett Favre (http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/FavrBr00-1.php) has informed the team he is remaining retired.

Feel how you wish about Brett Favre. Even aging with a crippled shoulder and the lack of mental strength, he is better than Jackson and Rosenfels.

FlyGuy78
07-30-2009, 12:33 PM
Feel how you wish about Brett Favre. Even aging with a crippled shoulder and the lack of mental strength, he is better than Jackson and Rosenfels.

How hard is it to be the MIN QB really though? Hand off to AP, hand off to AP, throw a short pass, hand off to AP, hand off to AP, throw a short pass, hand off to AP!! I mean, really!! :D

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-02-2009, 03:57 PM
Minnesota Vikings quarterback Tarvaris Jackson sustained a sprained MCL in his left knee after getting tangled with a defensive lineman in practice yesterday.


Jackson was hurt when defensive lineman LeTroy Guion fell at his feet and rolled over his leg during an 11-on-11 drill and is day to day.


Jackson, a fourth-year pro, is in a battle with Sage Rosenfels for the starting quarterback position after Brett Favre decided not to come out of retirement and join the Vikings.

Hockeyis#1
08-03-2009, 12:29 PM
I'd really like to see Vick go to the Vikings. It'd lock up my madden team 100%

two24four
09-13-2009, 03:13 PM
AP is a beast, what a run for a TD that last run was :eek:

eff1ngham
09-27-2009, 02:29 PM
Wow, I take back anything I've said about Percy Harvin not being an NFL-ready player. That dude is pretty amazing

dw13
09-27-2009, 03:17 PM
Wow, I take back anything I've said about Percy Harvin not being an NFL-ready player. That dude is pretty amazing

Told you... and wow what an amazing finish..

eff1ngham
09-27-2009, 03:32 PM
Brett Favre loves football. Fact

two24four
09-27-2009, 03:38 PM
That was just crazy.

b_illin
09-28-2009, 11:30 AM
Brett Favre loves football. Fact

I hate Brett Favre. Fact.

(seeing him do that yesterday annoyed me greatly...2 yrs ago I'd have been cheering my ass for him...now it just pisses me off)

Doctego
09-28-2009, 11:59 AM
Brett Favre loves football. Fact

It's pretty easy to love it when you get to skip minicamp/training camp and then get treated like a king. Shit. I'd love it, too.

dw13
09-28-2009, 12:01 PM
It's pretty easy to love it when you get to skip minicamp/training camp and then get treated like a king. Shit. I'd love it, too.

Not to mention the 12+ Million a year..

Doctego
09-28-2009, 12:08 PM
Not to mention the 12+ Million a year..

That, too.

two24four
09-29-2009, 11:19 PM
Wonder how much of a gong show Monday night's game will be, GB @ MIN, Favre's 1st game vs the Packers.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
09-30-2009, 01:01 AM
Wonder how much of a gong show Monday night's game will be, GB @ MIN, Favre's 1st game vs the Packers.

I'm a girl and I'm already getting a hard on.

Go Packers!

two24four
10-06-2009, 12:01 AM
Not a bad game tonight. Favre has now beat every NFL team.

Allen is a beast.

Dubz
10-06-2009, 07:23 AM
Not a bad game tonight. Favre has now beat every NFL team.

Allen is a beast.

Was a good game. That was a sick stripped ball on AP by GB and run back for the TD. You dont see stuff like that very often.

I get so pissed when Allen gets drafted NOT by me in IDP leagues.

spoonie luv
10-06-2009, 08:25 AM
Was a good game. That was a sick stripped ball on AP by GB and run back for the TD. You dont see stuff like that very often.

I get so pissed when Allen gets drafted NOT by me in IDP leagues.

I had Allen last night in my IDP league along with the Minnesota D, unfortunately his 26 point performance was still overshadowed by my opponent having Patrick Willis and the 49ers D. I still lost by 30 points.

I hate fantasy football.

Doctego
10-06-2009, 08:27 AM
You knew it was going to happen but it made me want to vomit to see ESPN have so much postgame coverage of the game. I thought that it was the fucking Super Bowl.

two24four
10-06-2009, 09:54 AM
haha, before the game I heard someone talking on the radio about what the over under would be on how many times they said Favre last night :lol:

b_illin
10-06-2009, 10:53 AM
Not a bad game tonight. Favre has now beat every NFL team.

Allen is a beast.

His indeed....but I also find him to be an obnoxious buffoon...and I have traditionally liked the guy! (Favre is destroying all Vikes for me!)

b_illin
10-06-2009, 10:54 AM
haha, before the game I heard someone talking on the radio about what the over under would be on how many times they said Favre last night :lol:

It was beyond ridiculous! Jaws was literally on his knees blowing Favre the entire game. I was actually muting the game between plays in the 4th Quarter!

dw13
10-06-2009, 11:42 AM
If Favre never came through NY I would not be against his old ass...

two24four
10-06-2009, 11:48 AM
I guess the Twins asked the Vikings to move last nights game so they could play there game vs DET last night, nice try :lol:

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
10-06-2009, 09:22 PM
Antoine Winfield is also quite beastly. I know it's early but he looks to be on pace for a career year.

Hockeyis#1
10-09-2009, 11:45 AM
I have to say I'm amazed at the throws a 40 year old guy can make. I've never seen 50 yard bullet passes before. It's pretty unreal.

dw13
10-25-2009, 03:41 PM
Percy Harvin is an absolute stud.

HT9
10-25-2009, 03:47 PM
Percy Harvin is an absolute stud.

Love that kid !
too bad he was on my bench today :(

Hockeyis#1
10-30-2009, 12:58 AM
Percy Harvin is an absolute stud.
He's going to be a star WR someday soon. He has all the tools and the talent that's for sure.

dw13
10-30-2009, 01:51 PM
He's going to be a star WR someday soon. He has all the tools and the talent that's for sure.

He really is a one of a kid player at this point. What a talent

FlyGuy78
10-30-2009, 08:55 PM
He really is a one of a kid player at this point. What a talent

I must say I was down on this kid for this year only since I don't normally believe in rookie WR peforming that well, but he is something else. I actually picked MIN DST in my money league because he would be returning kicks (he should return punts too) and figured he would be great at special teams which he is, but didn't think he would be this good of a WR so quickly. With Sidney Rice breaking out, MIN offense could be very scary for years to come as long as they have a respectable QB.

dw13
10-30-2009, 09:03 PM
I must say I was down on this kid for this year only since I don't normally believe in rookie WR peforming that well, but he is something else. I actually picked MIN DST in my money league because he would be returning kicks (he should return punts too) and figured he would be great at special teams which he is, but didn't think he would be this good of a WR so quickly. With Sidney Rice breaking out, MIN offense could be very scary for years to come as long as they have a respectable QB.

I was only worried about how MIN would use him. They have been doing everything right with him and he is catching on so quickly. I'm a big fan of Percy and he is a really good kid, even though people called his character into question after the combine drug test. He is a smart kid and a good guy. I'm real happy for him

Kyle
10-30-2009, 09:04 PM
I must say I was down on this kid for this year only since I don't normally believe in rookie WR peforming that well, but he is something else. I actually picked MIN DST in my money league because he would be returning kicks (he should return punts too) and figured he would be great at special teams which he is, but didn't think he would be this good of a WR so quickly. With Sidney Rice breaking out, MIN offense could be very scary for years to come as long as they have a respectable QB.

This is a huge, huge "as long." They're unlikely to get a franchise QB with the draft pick they will have this year. Where do you think they shop?

Nothing comes to mind for me at all. Maybe Bulger? I see 3500-4000 yd/20 td potentially on a team as good as the Vikings.

FlyGuy78
10-30-2009, 09:20 PM
This is a huge, huge "as long." They're unlikely to get a franchise QB with the draft pick they will have this year. Where do you think they shop?

Nothing comes to mind for me at all. Maybe Bulger? I see 3500-4000 yd/20 td potentially on a team as good as the Vikings.

they could always trade up to get a QB if they wanted to.

two24four
10-30-2009, 09:26 PM
They have Favre signed for one more season after this one, they could always wait another year before drafting a QB with him around.

Dubz
10-30-2009, 09:38 PM
This is a huge, huge "as long." They're unlikely to get a franchise QB with the draft pick they will have this year. Where do you think they shop?

Nothing comes to mind for me at all. Maybe Bulger? I see 3500-4000 yd/20 td potentially on a team as good as the Vikings.


They have Favre signed for one more season after this one, they could always wait another year before drafting a QB with him around.

Not sure yle knows this...BUT a QB is surely in the plans when you gots the oldest dude tossing balls on on your team. Id guess next year would be a good grooming year.....probably NOT for Bulger tho imo

Kyle
10-30-2009, 09:56 PM
Surely doesn't do for me. Who?

I didn't know Farve was signed for an extra year. He can definitely lead them to the playoffs one more year (Thats the least he'll do this year) and still puts up impressive numbers. And that gives them an extra year to develop or figure out something.

And I definitely don't see Bulger as a great option either. But with how stacked the Vikings are he could definitely get them into the playoffs at least 1-2 years after Brett goes. But the focus should definitely be on the next franchise quarterback. Damn shame Culpepper got injured, Vikings developed him so well.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
11-01-2009, 06:29 PM
I thought Minn had it in the bag and was on the verge of a complete blow out. Hell of a response by GB. This is shaping up into a great game. Lotta time left, GB is down by 4.

Dubz
11-01-2009, 06:43 PM
I thought Minn had it in the bag and was on the verge of a complete blow out. Hell of a response by GB. This is shaping up into a great game. Lotta time left, GB is down by 4.

heh hum...11

The last game was good too.:cool:

Dubz
11-01-2009, 06:48 PM
4 again:lol:

edit

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two24four
11-23-2009, 01:55 PM
What a game for Favre yesterday, 22-25, 213 Yds, 4 TD's, 0 INT, career high 88% passing.

Doctego
11-23-2009, 04:11 PM
I have definitely sided with those who think that Favre has acted like a total douchebag but he is definitely #2 in the MVP voting at the moment.

FlyGuy78
11-23-2009, 04:27 PM
I have definitely sided with those who think that Favre has acted like a total douchebag but he is definitely #2 in the MVP voting at the moment.

Is Peyton #1?

two24four
11-23-2009, 04:53 PM
Call me crazy, but I may even put Favre #1 for the MVP right now.

Doctego
11-23-2009, 05:30 PM
Is Peyton #1?

Absolutely. Barring injury, he already won the award.


Call me crazy, but I may even put Favre #1 for the MVP right now.

I don't think so and you really need to be careful with giving Favre too much credit, IMHO. They have a bunch of MVP-type players on that team. Both Manning and Favre have the numbers. If you go by the old "if you take so and so off of their team" argument, it's not even close. With Rosenfels or Jackson at QB, Minnesota is still probably in 1st place. Take Manning away from the Colts and they are shit.

dw13
11-23-2009, 05:52 PM
Brees is #1 for the MVP at this point for me. Manning a close #2 and then Favre a distance #3

Doctego
11-23-2009, 06:00 PM
Brees is #1 for the MVP at this point for me. Manning a close #2 and then Favre a distance #3

This just shows the subjectivity of the award. Personally, I don't see how Manning isn't the most valuable player in the league. He is the most indispensable player in the league to me, by far.

dw13
11-23-2009, 06:12 PM
This just shows the subjectivity of the award. Personally, I don't see how Manning isn't the most valuable player in the league. He is the most indispensable player in the league to me, by far.

I think they both are incredibly indispensable, and the award is very subjective right now, wait until the end of the season, and I'm sure it'll be clear cut.

b_illin
11-24-2009, 02:19 PM
This just shows the subjectivity of the award. Personally, I don't see how Manning isn't the most valuable player in the league. He is the most indispensable player in the league to me, by far.

Totally agree....it's Manning's to lose.

two24four
11-24-2009, 02:34 PM
You would have to add MJD and Chris Johnson if there teams where better.

two24four
11-29-2009, 06:11 PM
Mvp, mvp, mvp.

dw13
11-29-2009, 07:02 PM
Mvp, mvp, mvp.

You're a Pat, you should be saying that for Brady!!

two24four
11-29-2009, 07:18 PM
You're a Pat, you should be saying that for Brady!!

I wish it was Brady, and still hope so, but I have watched Minny play the last few weeks, and it's Favre right now IMO, he's been unreal.

Dubz
11-29-2009, 07:45 PM
Thats the last time i bench the silver fox

two24four
11-29-2009, 08:21 PM
Thats the last time i bench the silver fox

I have been playing him pretty much all season.

b_illin
11-30-2009, 01:15 PM
I wish it was Brady, and still hope so, but I have watched Minny play the last few weeks, and it's Favre right now IMO, he's been unreal.

Manning dude

two24four
11-30-2009, 01:25 PM
Manning dude

I just like what Favre is doing at 40 years old, Minny would not be 10-1 with out him.

Favre is pretty much right with Manning in every Cat this year, he's got a better QB rating, tied with him for TD's at 24, and has less INT's, (Favre only has 3 to Manning's 11) Manning has more YDS but he also throws more, he does not have an AP to hand off too.

boredguy
12-01-2009, 12:09 AM
*coughBREEScough*

two24four
12-01-2009, 12:10 AM
*coughBREEScough*

He's who I said would win before the season even got going.

Doctego
12-01-2009, 11:18 AM
I just like what Favre is doing at 40 years old, Minny would not be 10-1 with out him.

Favre is pretty much right with Manning in every Cat this year, he's got a better QB rating, tied with him for TD's at 24, and has less INT's, (Favre only has 3 to Manning's 11) Manning has more YDS but he also throws more, he does not have an AP to hand off too.

We could debate this all day but, personally, I am certain that if you took out Favre (and started Rosenfels or Jackson) and you took out Manning (and started Sorgi), Indy would have a lot less wins than Minnesota. Shit. Minnesota won their division last season without Favre and they probably would have done it again without him.

dw13
12-01-2009, 11:39 AM
We could debate this all day but, personally, I am certain that if you took out Favre (and started Rosenfels or Jackson) and you took out Manning (and started Sorgi), Indy would have a lot less wins than Minnesota. Shit. Minnesota won their division last season without Favre and they probably would have done it again without him.

How about if the Saints had to take out Brees and replace him with the 90 year old Brunell? That menu-style playbook Payton had last night, would shrink to nearly nothing.

Brees is still my MVP and he only solidified it last night.

dw13
12-01-2009, 11:40 AM
He's who I said would win before the season even got going.

Yeah, you really went out on a limb with that one. :lol:

Doctego
12-01-2009, 11:44 AM
How about if the Saints had to take out Brees and replace him with the 90 year old Brunell? That menu-style playbook Payton had last night, would shrink to nearly nothing.

Brees is still my MVP and he only solidified it last night.

I don't want to take anything away from any of those guys. In reality, you could do a lot worse than Brees or Favre winning the MVP. That said, I can't get over the fact that, to me, Manning is the most irreplaceable player in the league by far. The team around him is nowhere close to what Brees and Favre have. Indy is undefeated. Without Manning, they probably don't even make the playoffs. That, combined with his stats, makes him my MVP.

b_illin
12-01-2009, 11:48 AM
I don't want to take anything away from any of those guys. In reality, you could do a lot worse than Brees or Favre winning the MVP. That said, I can't get over the fact that, to me, Manning is the most irreplaceable player in the league by far. The team around him is nowhere close to what Brees and Favre have. Indy is undefeated. Without Manning, they probably don't even make the playoffs. That, combined with his stats, makes him my MVP.

Agreed, especially with Indy's DEF beat to shit these days.

Spartan
12-01-2009, 11:54 AM
I don't want to take anything away from any of those guys. In reality, you could do a lot worse than Brees or Favre winning the MVP. That said, I can't get over the fact that, to me, Manning is the most irreplaceable player in the league by far. The team around him is nowhere close to what Brees and Favre have. Indy is undefeated. Without Manning, they probably don't even make the playoffs. That, combined with his stats, makes him my MVP.Good post. This is why those Brady or Manning debates are so comical to me.

two24four
12-01-2009, 12:00 PM
Yeah, you really went out on a limb with that one. :lol:

And yet you go onto say he's still your MVP.

Sorry for picking one of my fav players in the league who does not play for the team I cheer for to win the MVP.

dw13
12-01-2009, 12:32 PM
I don't want to take anything away from any of those guys. In reality, you could do a lot worse than Brees or Favre winning the MVP. That said, I can't get over the fact that, to me, Manning is the most irreplaceable player in the league by far. The team around him is nowhere close to what Brees and Favre have. Indy is undefeated. Without Manning, they probably don't even make the playoffs. That, combined with his stats, makes him my MVP.

I'd say Brees and Manning are both the most irreplaceable players in the league, neither one ahead of the other. It's all opinion, but you can't go wrong with either of them

two24four
12-01-2009, 12:35 PM
I'd say Brees and Manning are both the most irreplaceable players in the league, neither one ahead of the other. It's all opinion, but you can't go wrong with either of them

Brees does have a way better team around him though then Manning.

dw13
12-01-2009, 12:41 PM
Brees does have a way better team around him though then Manning.

Both of them make their teams absurdly better. I'm not sure why the Colts don't get the credit for having a 'good team' without Manning, but the fact of the matter is they do. That team is very good, so is the coaching staff.

Again, can't go wrong with either.

eff1ngham
12-01-2009, 02:52 PM
Brees does have a way better team around him though then Manning.

Really? I'd say NO defense as a whole is better. But Reggie Wayne is a better WR than Colston, Dallas Clark is a better TE than Shockey, Addai individually is a better RB than anyone on the Saints (but as a whole the Saints have a better group of RBs), and Indy has a better offensive line. Brees and Manning both make other players on their teams look good, especially the WRs, but I wouldn't say that Brees has a way better team around him

Spartan
12-01-2009, 03:04 PM
Really? I'd say NO defense as a whole is better. But Reggie Wayne is a better WR than Colston, Dallas Clark is a better TE than Shockey, Addai individually is a better RB than anyone on the Saints (but as a whole the Saints have a better group of RBs), and Indy has a better offensive line. Brees and Manning both make other players on their teams look good, especially the WRs, but I wouldn't say that Brees has a way better team around himThe Saints O-line crushes Indy's, its not close.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

Hockeyis#1
12-01-2009, 05:33 PM
I don't see the Vikings beating the Saints. Brees VS MIN 2ndary-not close.

b_illin
12-01-2009, 08:35 PM
Manning had to break in 2 rookie WR's this year. Addai (aka their running game) is pretty shitty, IND DEF is nothing special. NO & MIN both have better O-lines. Rookie coach in IND. Blah blah blah...and all reasons why Peyton is the man.

Kyle
12-03-2009, 11:01 PM
The Saints O-line crushes Indy's, its not close.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

Yes it is. Ind's Oline is the #1 in the league in pass protection. With Wayne and Clark to throw to, its not hard to turn that into a guarenteed success formula.

I agree the Saints are a better team than the Colts, but you guys are being way dramatic about it. Colts would be in the playoffs with or without Manning. Manning turns them from pretty good to unbelievably good and I do agree he is the MVP right now. That said, Brees is very competitive for the spot, and is a reasonable choice. Farve is amazing also but he is absolutely stacked with the top talent in the league. AP is an absolutely monster advantage, even though Saint's run game is very comparable, it just doesn't make defenses adjust the way AP's presence does.

Due to the huge run advantages the Saints and Vikings have, I say Manning is the MVP right now. But it might come down to who stays undefeated or gets closest.

Spartan
12-03-2009, 11:33 PM
Yes it is. Ind's Oline is the #1 in the league in pass protection. With Wayne and Clark to throw to, its not hard to turn that into a guarenteed success formula.\Um no, the Saints have allowed 10 sacks, Indy has allowed 22. They are mid-pack this year. Traditionally they have been good but New Orleans is having a special season in nearly every aspect of the game.

Avaholic
12-04-2009, 12:27 AM
Just wrapped up Sidney Rice in my Dynasty League.

"Championshiiiiiip!!!" :D

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
12-04-2009, 02:40 AM
ooops? I hit over 80/85mph in my vette and I know it immediately. I can't even imagine going 109 and not knowing it. :wtf:



Minnesota Vikings star running back Adrian Peterson could lose his driver's license after police clocked him driving at 109 mph -- nearly twice the posted speed limit -- on a suburban Minneapolis highway last week.

Peterson said yesterday that he "got a little speeding ticket. I need to be more aware of the speed I was going and not let it happen again."

Peterson was pulled over just before 8:30 p.m. Saturday while driving his BMW in a 55-mph zone on state Highway 62 -- a normally busy stretch of road known as the Crosstown that connects Minneapolis with southern and western suburbs. Peterson was given a citation and allowed to drive away after what appeared to be a "very routine" traffic stop.

Police clocked Peterson going 109 mph. In the police video, Peterson told the officer he thought he was going "probably about 85." When told he was clocked at 109, he said, "Seriously? ... I didn't think I was going that fast."

Kyle
12-04-2009, 08:27 AM
Um no, the Saints have allowed 10 sacks, Indy has allowed 22. They are mid-pack this year. Traditionally they have been good but New Orleans is having a special season in nearly every aspect of the game.

Because sacks are 100% of the criteria for judging an O-line's pass protection and thats absolute, right? Sacks are as much on a QB as his line. Just look at Big Ben. Couldn't avoid a sack to save his life.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol



Stats in blue represent pass blocking. Teams are ranked according to adjusted sack rate, which gives sacks (plus intentional grounding penalties) per pass attempt adjusted for down, distance, and opponent. Pass blocking stats are explained further here (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/info/glossary#asr). Our sack totals may differ slightly from official NFL totals depending on the league's retroactive statistical adjustments.


Colt's pass protection is tops in the league. Their run line is still middle of the pack despite Addai's total mediocrity, with NO's running backs they would be ranked just as high. There is NO O-line advantage for NO and you guys are just grasping at straws to try to make it seem like a more obvious choice than it really is. Brees is a very very competitive candidate right now.

Kyle
12-04-2009, 08:51 AM
Oh yeah, and Johnson is the easy MVP if Titans make the playoffs.

Spartan
12-04-2009, 08:51 AM
Ooops, I read my own stats wrong, Indy is tops in PB.:$ Disregard my whole theory there.

Kyle
12-04-2009, 08:55 AM
It happens. NO's pass blocking is fantastic also so your theory wasn't totally off. I just wanted to emphasize that both QBs play behind a line that anyone in the league would kill for.

Spartan
12-04-2009, 08:58 AM
It happens. NO's pass blocking is fantastic also so your theory wasn't totally off. I just wanted to emphasize that both QBs play behind a line that anyone in the league would kill for.What has amazed me about the Saints is how many injuries they have taken on the O-line and they just keep going strong with 2nd and 3rd stringers.

dw13
12-04-2009, 09:01 AM
I got a good look at the Saints O-Line when they played the Jets, and good lord they were maulers in both the run and pass game. I was more impressed with them, than anything else on that team.

Kyle
12-04-2009, 09:27 AM
Yeah, they make Thomas and Bell look way better than they are. Imagine Chris Johnson on NO.

two24four
12-05-2009, 12:58 PM
ooops? I hit over 80/85mph in my vette and I know it immediately. I can't even imagine going 109 and not knowing it. :wtf:



Minnesota Vikings star running back Adrian Peterson could lose his driver's license after police clocked him driving at 109 mph -- nearly twice the posted speed limit -- on a suburban Minneapolis highway last week.

Peterson said yesterday that he "got a little speeding ticket. I need to be more aware of the speed I was going and not let it happen again."

Peterson was pulled over just before 8:30 p.m. Saturday while driving his BMW in a 55-mph zone on state Highway 62 -- a normally busy stretch of road known as the Crosstown that connects Minneapolis with southern and western suburbs. Peterson was given a citation and allowed to drive away after what appeared to be a "very routine" traffic stop.

Police clocked Peterson going 109 mph. In the police video, Peterson told the officer he thought he was going "probably about 85." When told he was clocked at 109, he said, "Seriously? ... I didn't think I was going that fast."

haha, Berrian got a speeding ticket as well Monday for going 104 mph.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4716172

Kyle
12-05-2009, 01:29 PM
It isn't remotely possible for AP to have not known. Come on buddy, try to be more convincing.

Hockeyis#1
12-05-2009, 05:36 PM
ooops? I hit over 80/85mph in my vette and I know it immediately. I can't even imagine going 109 and not knowing it. :wtf:
You have a vette?

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
12-06-2009, 02:40 AM
You have a vette?

Yeah and if I got pulled over while going 109 in a 55mph zone I am pretty sure I would be arrested for reckless endangerment or something and not just given a citation and sent on my merry way. :rolleyes:

Hockeyis#1
12-07-2009, 01:11 AM
Yeah and if I got pulled over while going 109 in a 55mph zone I am pretty sure I would be arrested for reckless endangerment or something and not just given a citation and sent on my merry way. :rolleyes:
Yeah, but you didn't rush for 1700 yds, 10 TDs, and lead your team to the postseason. That trumps tits, every time.

I wasn't aware nurse's salary and California cost of living included a vette....nicely done either way...

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
12-07-2009, 01:36 AM
Yeah, but you didn't rush for 1700 yds, 10 TDs, and lead your team to the postseason. That trumps tits, every time.

I wasn't aware nurse's salary and California cost of living included a vette....nicely done either way...

Well I get paid pretty well. Salary for nurses in the Silicon Valley is on average probably the highest in the entire country. Either way, my car was long ago bought n paid for so on the day to day I don't worry about anything but the insurance and occasional maintenance... and @ 28 y/o with a completely flawless driving record the insurance is surprisingly cheap even though it is a sports car. I also don't have any money grubbing children or a mortgage etc to worry about so I am pretty comfortable within my means. I know my biological clock should be ticking or whatever but I enjoy my freedom far too much for those sort've long term commitments. :D

Anyway, back to the fact of the matter, tits or no tits, this type of shit just irritates me sooo fucking badly. I am a huge sports fan, which we all know, but the fact that these superstar athletes, actors, whatever, get away with shit that you or I would be bloody crucified for, really yanks my chain. :mad: AP, Tiger Woods, etc, etc, etc. A citation, a fine, have a great day! It's really fucking ridiculous and speaks volumes about the backwards, superstar, let us raise you up on a pedestal and worship you kind've society that we have created for ourselves.

eff1ngham
12-07-2009, 10:10 AM
Raise up on a pedestal? He was speeding. I've known people who were stopped for doing 45mph over the limit (95 in a 50) and just he just got a ticket and was sent on his way. I don't think AD got any kind of special treatment that he shouldn't have, or that regular people don't get. I mean seriously, have you every been to traffic court? You should hear some of the things that people were pulled over for :lol:

Doctego
12-23-2009, 11:00 AM
Any thoughts on Favre acting like a little cunt and throwing his coach under the bus?? That's what happens when you coddle him and let him know that he runs the show. Favre needs to find a league where he can skip camp and then play in a 10 game season.

dw13
12-23-2009, 11:07 AM
Any thoughts on Favre acting like a little cunt and throwing his coach under the bus?? That's what happens when you coddle him and let him know that he runs the show. Favre needs to find a league where he can skip camp and then play in a 10 game season.

Childress is the moron that has let Favre run the team.

Motorcat
12-23-2009, 11:24 AM
I was at that game Sunday night - had problems with my new camera but I hope to be able to retrieve some photos now that I have had a chance to charge up the battery.

The game was kind of lack luster until the 4th despite the Panthers being all over Favre all night. I was kind of surprised by the crowd - before and during the game there sure was alot of excitement for a team that was 5-8 before the win.

I am not a big Panthers guy basically cause they are in Charlotte and the season runs somewhat concurrent to hockey but if the Panthers where in Raleigh I no doubt would be on board in a much larger way.

BBL with some pics - I hope

Doctego
12-23-2009, 02:38 PM
Childress is the moron that has let Favre run the team.

Agreed but this isn't Favre's first time.

Kyle
12-23-2009, 02:50 PM
It was pretty boneheaded to ask him to sit with the lead at the cost of homefield against the already-beaten Saints (Meaning they knew they had a good chance at cathcing them), so I really don't blame him for any of this silly shit that followed.

Doctego
12-23-2009, 02:53 PM
It was pretty boneheaded to ask him to sit with the lead at the cost of homefield against the already-beaten Saints (Meaning they knew they had a good chance at cathcing them), so I really don't blame him for any of this silly shit that followed.

I don't blame him for having an issue with being asked out of the game but it would be nice if he had a little more respect for his HC than to pull that shit. The main issue that I have is him making it public after the fact. What exactly did he gain by making it public??

Motorcat
12-23-2009, 02:59 PM
- pics in the Panthers thread

dw13
12-23-2009, 02:59 PM
Kyle it doesn't matter if you are up 14-0, if your coach says your going to the bench, you shut the f*ck up and go to the bench. Who is Brett Favre to question the Head Coach of the team? Absolutely despicable.

And to think this f*cking goon got mad last year for not being listed on the injury list, and said he would of sat down for Clemens because he was hurt.

I don't want Favre to sit for the Vikes because I'm enjoying watching that team crumble.

Kyle
12-23-2009, 03:49 PM
You're overblowing it a bit, Daw. I agree with Doc that making it public was the wrong move, but the incident itself was far from despicable. The coach was as much in the wrong as Favre in the incident itself because given the circumstances, it was absolute lunacy to ask him to sit there. Defying your head coach for a moment is a reasonable reaction.

As for the vikings crumbling...a bit dramatic are we? Name me a team this year that has yet to look horrible in a game. Saints, Colts, they've all looked terrible in random moments. Vikings are very legit SB contenders.

And please take a second to realize that Farve is absolutely NOT held by the standards that other players are held by. And you can once again blame Childress for that. He sucked the guys dick right out of retirement. Who knows what off the contract things he promised for the guy to do it. Point is, he pampered Farve into comming to the team. That scenerio right there disqualifies the coach >>>> player mentality that every other player/coach in the league has to respect. Farve is Childress' equal, period. So, very bad move by Childress to try to test that fact in a tight game that had conference final homefield implications. What did he expect, a "yes sir" and a quiet seat taken by Favre? Fucking idiot.

Note - I do NOT support what Favre did. I'm just much more against Childress' lack of foresight. All this crap should've been obvious.

dw13
12-23-2009, 04:19 PM
Childress and Favre both are idiots, and are at the forefront of the Vikings being 1-and-done in the playoffs.

Mark it down :D

Doctego
12-23-2009, 09:50 PM
Childress and Favre both are idiots, and are at the forefront of the Vikings being 1-and-done in the playoffs.

Mark it down :D

Agreed about them both being idiots.

My (hopefully) last comment on this topic will be this.......Just because Childress was on his knees doesn't mean that Favre had to let him suck his dick. As hard as it is, it is not impossible to walk away from a dicksucking. Just ask my wife.:scared:

Kyle
12-23-2009, 09:54 PM
I agree with you 100%. But Favre is clearly an egomaniac. He won't turn down a dicksucking. I'm not trying to excuse Favre's behavior, I'm just saying he reacted very preditably, and it just amazes me that Childress still invited this behavior when hes the one who put Favre up on his highhorse in the first place.

Kyle
01-03-2010, 06:33 PM
Favre ends the season at 4212 yards (3rd highest in his career) 33 TDs (4th highest in his career, 2nd highest in the season), only 7 interceptions (Lowest in his career, lowest of the season, among the lowest all time over 16 games) to make a 4.7:1 TD:int ratio which is among the top 10 highest (probably top 5) in NFL history. 107.2 rating is the 2nd highest of the season and by far highest of his career. 68.4% completion is by far the highest in his career and 13th all time.

Thats a fucking hell of a season for a 40 year old.

FlyGuy78
01-03-2010, 06:49 PM
Favre ends the season at 4212 yards (3rd highest in his career) 33 TDs (4th highest in his career, 2nd highest in the season), only 7 interceptions (Lowest in his career, lowest of the season, among the lowest all time over 16 games) to make a 4.7:1 TD:int ratio which is among the top 10 highest (probably top 5) in NFL history. 107.2 rating is the 2nd highest of the season and by far highest of his career. 68.4% completion is by far the highest in his career and 13th all time.

Thats a fucking hell of a season for a 40 year old.

that's cause Brett's one fucking hell of a player!! :D

dw13
01-04-2010, 10:29 AM
Very lucky they got the #2 seed, that'll help them on the road to the Superbowl. Brett can't win outdoors at this time of year, and it's not just Brett, its the Vikes in general.

I'm rooting for every team but the Vikings. GO Saints, Pack, Cards, 'Boys, Iggles!!

Hockeyis#1
01-04-2010, 01:33 PM
He won't turn down a dicksucking.
While taken completely out of context
I don't blame him

Why can Brett not win outdoors?

King_Killah
01-06-2010, 02:36 PM
Here ya go Fly.......



NEW YORK (AP)óThe Little Phenom is the NFLís top offensive rookie.
Percy Harvin (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9286/;_ylt=Amnws12POuKJAW1N2WzqvC8dsLYF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9286/news;_ylt=AiIuXfToDmcmkfDGtP04NcodsLYF) used his versatility and intelligence to win The Associated Press 2009 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year award.
The Minnesota Vikings (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/min/;_ylt=An1eZIw9A1K2xnBkYBgKxHEdsLYF) wide receiver/kick returner ran away with the balloting the same way he outran defenses and special teams this season. Harvin received 41 votes Wednesday from the nationwide panel of 50 sports writers and broadcasters who cover the league. Baltimore tackle Michael Oher (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9287/;_ylt=AgYYZqc3u6aqOa2VPJErdyYdsLYF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/9287/news;_ylt=Apbfr3R18p5TLMTXeVjSansdsLYF) was second with six votes.

Guess Harvin was a little better than you thought he'd be, huh Fly?? Damn, I remember you shitting on Calvin Johnson too... What is it with you and rookie receivers?? When they are good, they are good... Admit it!

dw13
01-06-2010, 02:39 PM
Props to my boy Percy

Kyle
01-06-2010, 02:39 PM
Yeah I noticed that, its like physics requires them to suck their first year in Fly's world. Though he is right that WR have smaller rookie success rates, at least it seems!

Grats to Harvin, great season.

Hockeyis#1
01-06-2010, 03:26 PM
Gotta say, I've become a BIG FAN of Percy Harvin. I was really hoping the Bills or Bolts would draft him when they came up. Was also hoping for Ray Maualuga as SD's 1st pick

Kyle
01-19-2010, 04:34 AM
lol, the Cowboys are bitching that the playcalling in the end of the game was classless. People need to realize momentum is everything in the playoffs and I say its not only OK but encouraged to gun it a little bit despite the guarenteed win. Vikings were comming off a few shakey weeks against the hottest defense in the league by far and it I absolutely support the Vikings making a statement that they can tear that defense apart at will. Let Favre stroke his shit a little bit and get the confidence he needs to throw the risky but calculated bullet passes hes so famous for and keep up the unreal numbers hes been putting up this year (134 rating in the game).

Vikings easily have the offensive potential to tear apart any of the secondaries remaining int he playoffs. Peterson as a plan B sounds OK with me. I might just have to call them my favorites based on the last round.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
01-19-2010, 05:08 AM
Maybe if Brett wins a SB he will quit with the drama and go out like a champ.

Hockeyis#1
01-19-2010, 08:25 AM
Maybe if Brett wins a SB he will quit with the drama and go out like a champ.
doubtful

dw13
01-19-2010, 09:50 AM
Go 'Aints!

Doctego
01-19-2010, 10:53 AM
lol, the Cowboys are bitching that the playcalling in the end of the game was classless. People need to realize momentum is everything in the playoffs and I say its not only OK but encouraged to gun it a little bit despite the guarenteed win. Vikings were comming off a few shakey weeks against the hottest defense in the league by far and it I absolutely support the Vikings making a statement that they can tear that defense apart at will. Let Favre stroke his shit a little bit and get the confidence he needs to throw the risky but calculated bullet passes hes so famous for and keep up the unreal numbers hes been putting up this year (134 rating in the game).

Vikings easily have the offensive potential to tear apart any of the secondaries remaining int he playoffs. Peterson as a plan B sounds OK with me. I might just have to call them my favorites based on the last round.

Let me preface this by saying that I think that Dallas should STFU. This is professional sports and not Pop Warner. They should be mad at themselves for letting the Vikings score so many points over the course of the game. I have no sympathy for them here.

Now let me ask you this.......Are you kidding me?? The point of shaking off their rust was long gone. They had already done that and then some. If memory serves, the score was 27-3 and it was 4th-and-3 from the 12 yard line with around 2 minutes left. They could have easily taken a knee or run the ball again. The game was over. Don't even start saying that the reason that they went for a TD on that 4th down play was to shake off rust. I am all for going all out and scoring as much as you can until the game is out of reach, especially in the playoffs, but this game was over. Seeing Favre dance around like he just won the game in OT was a bit much as well.

Kyle
01-19-2010, 11:57 AM
I wasn't trying to say it was the sole reason but more or less I was saying there were reasons. It wasn't particularly respectful but I wouldn't necessarily call it classless or morally wrong in anyway. At this time in the year I simply encourage any momentum boost.

dw13
01-19-2010, 11:59 AM
The only pop warner thing about what they did was Favre running around like a little bitch flailing his arms everywhere like he just won the Superbowl again.

Hope to see you again in a couple weeks, Brett.

b_illin
01-19-2010, 12:18 PM
On PTI last night they were saying Favre must be planning to retire based on the way he was celebrating - if he's not retiring, there are plus de teams who will be looking to pop him good. (I kinda hope he doesn't retire now! :evilgrin:)

Kyle
01-19-2010, 12:30 PM
The only pop warner thing about what they did was Favre running around like a little bitch flailing his arms everywhere like he just won the Superbowl again.

Hope to see you again in a couple weeks, Brett.


That I will agree. Favre was what most would consider a douche about his celebrating, but I found nothing wrong with the playcalling.

People just hate Favre so much. Hes called for it for the most part but can't you put aside differences to enjoy the history being made every minute hes on the field? Let him enjoy it, this has been 20 years and over 200 games in the making, we'll probably never see someone his age dominate a position like he does ever again so just enjoy the show.

two24four
01-19-2010, 01:04 PM
I also have not prob with a play call like that in the playoffs. Now if it was week 16 or something and you are in the playoffs already and the other team has only two wins all year then yeah that's just bad, but in the playoffs it's on.

Doctego
01-19-2010, 02:38 PM
That I will agree. Favre was what most would consider a douche about his celebrating, but I found nothing wrong with the playcalling.

People just hate Favre so much. Hes called for it for the most part but can't you put aside differences to enjoy the history being made every minute hes on the field? Let him enjoy it, this has been 20 years and over 200 games in the making, we'll probably never see someone his age dominate a position like he does ever again so just enjoy the show.

I agree that he does make a lot of history but it is made out to be much more than it really is in many cases. Oldest QB to do this, oldest QB to do that.......Some of it just doesn't matter. A lot of it does but a lot doesn't. He has had a great career and is playing at a very high level right now but many of those records are based solely on longevity.

I like seeing great play. Age doesn't matter to me. He might be able to play another 10 years if he keeps up his offseason "will he play" bullshit and misses camps.

Kyle
01-19-2010, 03:15 PM
I agree 100%, the whole "Now hes the oldest QB to throw 10 passes in a playoff game. Now hes the oldest QB to throw 60% completion in a playoff game" garbage is annoying. That shit needs to stop.

Hockeyis#1
01-20-2010, 08:17 PM
I'm taking the Saints in this game, but atleast 14. Brees >>>>> Min 2ndary

FlyGuy78
01-20-2010, 09:48 PM
I'm taking the Saints in this game, but atleast 14. Brees >>>>> Min 2ndary

True, but the Saints pass offense (playactions, screen passes, deep bombs) all rely on them running the ball successfully which they could have a problem with vs. MIN. Not to say that they won't put up passing yards and points, they will, but I think if MIN can stop their run game, they will have a great chance at winning this game. I am actually picking the Vikes in this one and the Colts in the other game.

Doctego
01-20-2010, 10:32 PM
I have been going back and forth on this game. While I wouldn't be surprised to see Minnesota win, I can't overlook the fact that they have been quite mediocre on the road this season. They aren't exactly going into an easy place to win.

Hockeyis#1
01-20-2010, 10:47 PM
True, but the Saints pass offense (playactions, screen passes, deep bombs) all rely on them running the ball successfully which they could have a problem with vs. MIN. Not to say that they won't put up passing yards and points, they will, but I think if MIN can stop their run game, they will have a great chance at winning this game. I am actually picking the Vikes in this one and the Colts in the other game.
I disagree. Brees is going to be able to pick apart the weak 2ndary of the Vikes, while play action is helpful, Henderson going deep only recquires him to beat his man and possibly a safety, which should be a very do-able task. The only chance I give the Vikes is if they can constantly force Brees to do a Trent Edwards impression and checkdown/screw up due to pressure (Saints are currently ranked 4th in pass protection on football outsiders).

Kyle
01-21-2010, 04:41 AM
Both offenses easily have a high chance of scoring a ton of points against the other so playing the "Who scores more" game is completely senseless. There are the two most talented overall recieving crews in the league by far with 4000+ yard 30+ TD 100+ rating gunslingers feeding them. One side has the second best RB in the league and the other has by far the best tri-threat in the league and abuses it often. #1 offense in the league against the #2 offense in the league. Poor poor defenses. Theres no logic going either way, this is a matchup that gets split 5/5 out of 10 games.

Hockeyis#1
01-21-2010, 11:54 AM
Both offenses easily have a high chance of scoring a ton of points against the other so playing the "Who scores more" game is completely senseless. There are the two most talented overall recieving crews in the league by far with 4000+ yard 30+ TD 100+ rating gunslingers feeding them. One side has the second best RB in the league and the other has by far the best tri-threat in the league and abuses it often. #1 offense in the league against the #2 offense in the league. Poor poor defenses. Theres no logic going either way, this is a matchup that gets split 5/5 out of 10 games.
Sharper and Vilma make the difference for me...

Doctego
01-21-2010, 01:51 PM
Both offenses easily have a high chance of scoring a ton of points against the other so playing the "Who scores more" game is completely senseless. There are the two most talented overall recieving crews in the league by far with 4000+ yard 30+ TD 100+ rating gunslingers feeding them. One side has the second best RB in the league and the other has by far the best tri-threat in the league and abuses it often. #1 offense in the league against the #2 offense in the league. Poor poor defenses. Theres no logic going either way, this is a matchup that gets split 5/5 out of 10 games.

I know that you were making a point but I don't know about "by far". In the least, the Dallas trio is in the mix.

Kyle
01-21-2010, 03:37 PM
Ok I'll definitely give you that. I say Saints 3 headed beast is a little more fierce but Cowboys are definitely close. I really only used by far because theres only so few teams that even have a tri-threat, let alone 3 studs like the Saints.

Doctego
01-22-2010, 12:33 AM
Ok I'll definitely give you that. I say Saints 3 headed beast is a little more fierce but Cowboys are definitely close. I really only used by far because theres only so few teams that even have a tri-threat, let alone 3 studs like the Saints.

The Jets would be right there if Leon didn't fuck up his leg but I agree.

eff1ngham
01-24-2010, 09:26 PM
I've seen bad college teams that can hold onto the ball better than the Vikings

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
01-24-2010, 09:54 PM
what a fun game :)

Motorcat
01-24-2010, 09:54 PM
That is classic Brett Favre - INT ...trying to force the issue at the worst possible time

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
01-24-2010, 10:10 PM
hahah yeah brett really favred it up

dw13
01-24-2010, 10:21 PM
Great to see Favre blow the game. Not going to lie.

MrScientist
01-24-2010, 10:24 PM
Lol, but really, Minnesota is nowhere near the NFC Championship without him. Wouldn't call myself a fan, but just saying.

Dubz
01-24-2010, 10:32 PM
Doesnt matter if Favre comes back....hes destined to retire after throwing a game deciding pick. (AGAIN:lol:)

Gern Blansten
01-24-2010, 11:20 PM
That is classic Brett Favre - INT ...trying to force the issue at the worst possible time

Pretty standard Minnesota pro sports team program. Other than the random win from the Twins, were awful. Seriously, he runs that ball 8-14 more yards and they have a great shot at winning the game. BAH! :banghead:

two24four
01-25-2010, 12:16 AM
If I'm Minny, Iam making AP walk around the entire off season with a football in his hands.

ih8music
01-25-2010, 12:40 AM
Great to see Favre blow the game. Not going to lie.
:beer: Now I'll actually watch the SB. I don't think I could have tolerated hrs and hrs of Favre-love had MN won the game.

Kyle
01-25-2010, 03:29 AM
Favre was amazing. Yeah it came down to a bad pick but you guys are looney if you think he cost them a field goal. They were out of FG range and he had no open recievers. He still should've ran out of bounds evaulate what they could've done with the time but the reality is it was unlikely that they make it back into FG range unless Favre completes a pass on THAT play. So he made the unfavorable but understandable decision to just try to force it knowing 99 out of 100 scenerios end up with them going to OT anyway (The 1/100 being a pick six). OT was 95% likely at that point, so quit acting like it was somehow a choke to go into OT. It wasn't. Great game by Brett, now hang it up and let the sport move forward.

Spartan
01-25-2010, 11:02 AM
In the history of Favre turnover fests this one was rather tame. I would not call it a choke job although throwing into double coverage across your body might not be the best decision. That drive is on Childress at the end. By running on first and second he was basically banking on Longwell for a 45-50 yarder which is a poor plan. Coming out of the timeout with 12 men on field was just a wow level of stupid. Statistically they blew out the Saints, they just made too many mistakes to deserve a win. This one is not on Favre, he is a part of it but there are others equally guilty. It was a typical Favre pass in an atypical Favre season.

b_illin
01-25-2010, 11:03 AM
Lol, but really, Minnesota is nowhere near the NFC Championship without him. Wouldn't call myself a fan, but just saying.

Really? I'm not so sure about that. Put in a mediocre game manager instead of Favre and I bet they'd be pretty good....different, but good.

Suck on that Brett you fuck....I think I am more annoyed now though as we will have to endure his bullshit all over again....don't retire...die you fuck!

FlyGuy78
01-25-2010, 11:48 AM
Brett Favre in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM lost that game for MIN last night. If you want to blame people, start with the people that fumbled the ball a total of 6 times, and with the bad playcalling on the last drive, and blame the idiot for being the 12th man on the field, but don't blame Favre, he played a great game and took a lot of big hits. Now, after saying all that, that pick at the end was just classic Favre, but I don't think you can blame the loss on that pick alone.

b_illin
01-25-2010, 12:03 PM
The most blame (as Fly said) should go to the tard who was the 12th man on the field...that cost them the field goal in all likelihood. It's still run to rag on Favre though!

MrScientist
01-25-2010, 12:13 PM
Really? I'm not so sure about that. Put in a mediocre game manager instead of Favre and I bet they'd be pretty good....different, but good.

Suck on that Brett you fuck....I think I am more annoyed now though as we will have to endure his bullshit all over again....don't retire...die you fuck!

I'm more looking at MIN's alternatives of Jackson and Rosenfels.

two24four
01-25-2010, 01:06 PM
Yeah dont blame Favre for the loss last night, he's not the reason they loss.

I heard someone say after the game that if he does retire, that will be the 3rd team he leaves after throwing a pick on his last throw, ATL, GB and now Minny.

dw13
01-25-2010, 01:21 PM
In the history of Favre turnover fests this one was rather tame. I would not call it a choke job although throwing into double coverage across your body might not be the best decision. That drive is on Childress at the end. By running on first and second he was basically banking on Longwell for a 45-50 yarder which is a poor plan. Coming out of the timeout with 12 men on field was just a wow level of stupid. Statistically they blew out the Saints, they just made too many mistakes to deserve a win. This one is not on Favre, he is a part of it but there are others equally guilty. It was a typical Favre pass in an atypical Favre season.

Well said.

Hockeyis#1
01-25-2010, 01:59 PM
Really? I'm not so sure about that. Put in a mediocre game manager instead of Favre and I bet they'd be pretty good....different, but good.

Suck on that Brett you fuck....I think I am more annoyed now though as we will have to endure his bullshit all over again....don't retire...die you fuck!
They wouldn't be a playoff team. How many games did AP not produce this year? Tavaris Jackson isn't winning them those games.

Motorcat
01-25-2010, 04:34 PM
Bottom line - if that last play is a run play or Favre takes a slide - the Vikings kick a FG and win.

Sorry but that poor decision did ultimately cost them the game ... yeah, none of the other stuff helped but in the end, that one play sealed their fate - that ball should of never been in the air.

eff1ngham
01-25-2010, 04:48 PM
Yeah it came down to a bad pick but you guys are looney if you think he cost them a field goal. They were out of FG range and he had no open recievers.

It would have been like a 54-yard kick. Indoors. That's within Longwell's range. Favre could have run it and slide or gone out of bounds, or at least thrown it away. Throwing the pick absolutely cost them a field goal attempt

Kyle
01-25-2010, 05:05 PM
It would have been like a 54-yard kick. Indoors. That's within Longwell's range. Favre could have run it and slide or gone out of bounds, or at least thrown it away. Throwing the pick absolutely cost them a field goal attempt

Cost them a field goal ATTEMPT. But I'm sure if you do the math and consider everything, the chances of a ball going through the uprights must've been lower than 1/10. He cost them that 1/10 chance but thats drasitcally different than throwing a pick with a 30 yard field goal attempt locked up. Favre made the wrong choice, there is no disagreeing with that, but it was not some classic Favre fuck up or some choke job, it was an extremely understandable decision, just the wrong one.

And the number I heard was more like 58 yards which makes a drastic difference at that distance.

dw13
01-25-2010, 05:10 PM
Cost them a field goal ATTEMPT. But I'm sure if you do the math and consider everything, the chances of a ball going through the uprights must've been lower than 1/10. He cost them that 1/10 chance but thats drasitcally different than throwing a pick with a 30 yard field goal attempt locked up. Favre made the wrong choice, there is no disagreeing with that, but it was not some classic Favre fuck up or some choke job, it was an extremely understandable decision, just the wrong one.

And the number I heard was more like 58 yards which makes a drastic difference at that distance.

I wouldn't really say it was a 1/10 chance that Longwell makes the field goal. I think it would of been a 55 yard attempt if he had not picked up any yards. He had atleast 5-8 yards infront of him to scramble and run out of bounds. He's the 5th most accurate kicker in league history, 8 for 8 in the past two years in 50+ yard kicks, and 14 for 18 in 40+ yard kicks in the past two years. I know Minny fans would love their chances with Longwell from anywhere from 50 and in.

eff1ngham
01-25-2010, 05:21 PM
1/10? Dude you're crazy. It would have been just under 50 yards before the 12 men penalty, and about 54-55 yards afterwards. That's a kick for Longwell can make, especially inside in one of the nicest places to kick from distance. There are plenty of other things that cost them the game, especially in OT. But that definitely cost them a makeable field goal attempt.

It's a shame the NFL OT rules suck, I wanted to see a better end to the game than what we got

two24four
01-25-2010, 06:34 PM
1/10? Dude you're crazy. It would have been just under 50 yards before the 12 men penalty, and about 54-55 yards afterwards. That's a kick for Longwell can make, especially inside in one of the nicest places to kick from distance. There are plenty of other things that cost them the game, especially in OT. But that definitely cost them a makeable field goal attempt.

It's a shame the NFL OT rules suck, I wanted to see a better end to the game than what we got

I agree, they really need to do something about it.

b_illin
01-25-2010, 06:36 PM
They wouldn't be a playoff team. How many games did AP not produce this year? Tavaris Jackson isn't winning them those games.

You can't say that though....AP might have played way better knowing he had too. We'll never know, but seeing as they did pretty well last year with pretty much the same team, chances are they would have at the least been on the bubble.




It's a shame the NFL OT rules suck, I wanted to see a better end to the game than what we got

I'd love to see NCAA rules...tons of fun

two24four
01-25-2010, 06:43 PM
You can't say that though....AP might have played way better knowing he had too. We'll never know, but seeing as they did pretty well last year with pretty much the same team, chances are they would have at the least been on the bubble.



I'd love to see NCAA rules...tons of fun

Fun, but that game last night might have gone till 3am with the NCAA rules for OT.

Kyle
01-25-2010, 07:32 PM
Seems I misheard something or just didn't pay enough attention, I was under the impression an incomplete pass was a 58 yard field goal which is borderline assanine. I also admittedly knew nothing of this field goal kicker. I'll definitely agree that its no longer an understandable play and plain silly. But oh well, his superb play made it even possible to be in a position to be driving for the late win. Ultimately his choke only cost them a tie. It was defense and bad officiating that lost it for them in OT and Favre played spectacular up to that throw.

Spartan
01-25-2010, 07:35 PM
LOL! "This isn't Detroit"


YouTube- Radio Call of Favre Interception against Saints 1/24/10

two24four
01-25-2010, 07:49 PM
LOL! "This isn't Detroit"


YouTube- Radio Call of Favre Interception against Saints 1/24/10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2TZQlVPvjk)

haha, I heard that as well today, good stuff :lol:

Snipes16
01-25-2010, 08:20 PM
It's almost impossible for me not to call Favre the goat because for all the turnovers Minny had and even the 12 men in the huddle penalty, he had a clear run to the 30 or an easy pass to a wide open Berrian standing on the 30 which sets up a 48 yard attempt. Longwell was 93% this year on all FG's -26 for 28 and over the last 2 years he was a combined 8 for 8 on 50+ yarders.

So at the very worst he's going to hit a 48-50 yd attempt 3 out of 4 times -75% in a dome no less. That made kick would have been redemption for the Gary Anderson miss in 98 that would have sent Minny to the bowl vs Atlanta. Then after the game Favre claims he wasn't sure how many yards were needed for the attempt on that play?

million dollar arm, ten cent head

Doctego
01-25-2010, 11:14 PM
If Favre retires, is it true that the last pass that he threw with 3 different teams was an INT?? I am quite sure that it was with Green Bay (vs. NYG) and Minnesota (vs. NO) but it upsets me that I can't remember that with the Jets.

Spartan
01-25-2010, 11:17 PM
If Favre retires, is it true that the last pass that he threw with 3 different teams was an INT?? I am quite sure that it was with Green Bay (vs. NYG) and Minnesota (vs. NO) but it upsets me that I can't remember that with the Jets.Would be Atlanta, Green Bay and Minny. His 2nd to last pass with the Jets was picked.

Doctego
01-25-2010, 11:23 PM
They wouldn't be a playoff team. How many games did AP not produce this year? Tavaris Jackson isn't winning them those games.

How so?? They were a 10 win team with Jackson at QB last season.

I'm amazed that anyone would like to see the college OT rule in the NFL. While I would be open to listen to ideas, the college rule is a gimmick. I have really yet to see a good reason to change the current NFL system, IMHO. I believe that the % of teams winning the toss actually winning the game is too close to 50% to warrant a change. I have heard them all and the only 1 that got my interest was a "first team to 6 points" system. I would prefer that they left it alone, though.

Doctego
01-25-2010, 11:24 PM
Would be Atlanta, Green Bay and Minny. His 2nd to last pass with the Jets was picked.

Shit. He's gotta go back to NY then.:D

two24four
01-26-2010, 12:54 AM
Yeah it's ATL, GB, Minny (if he does retire) that he threw an INT on his last pass with those teams.

b_illin
01-26-2010, 01:57 AM
How so?? They were a 10 win team with Jackson at QB last season.

I'm amazed that anyone would like to see the college OT rule in the NFL. While I would be open to listen to ideas, the college rule is a gimmick. I have really yet to see a good reason to change the current NFL system, IMHO. I believe that the % of teams winning the toss actually winning the game is too close to 50% to warrant a change. I have heard them all and the only 1 that got my interest was a "first team to 6 points" system. I would prefer that they left it alone, though.

It's fun...really fun. That's about my only reason...

Kyle
01-26-2010, 03:12 AM
College OT is like an NHL shootout but to a lesser extent. Its just one small area of the game (redzone offense) and doesn't really challenge an overall team. Thats what I like about the NFL OT, you have to bring a complete gameplan. But marching down for an opening-drive field goal blows for the team that loses the cointoss. I say first to 6 wins.

Doctego
01-26-2010, 09:06 AM
It's fun...really fun. That's about my only reason...

See how fun it is when you bet the under and a 3-3 game turns out to be 38-35.:D

I understand the fun part because you can get a lot more football. The NFL isn't the place for it, though.

Doctego
01-26-2010, 09:08 AM
College OT is like an NHL shootout but to a lesser extent. Its just one small area of the game (redzone offense) and doesn't really challenge an overall team. Thats what I like about the NFL OT, you have to bring a complete gameplan. But marching down for an opening-drive field goal blows for the team that loses the cointoss. I say first to 6 wins.

I originally thought that way until I saw the stats. Quite often, the team that starts on D stops the offense and then they have the advantage, especially if they stopped them early enough to get good field position. I really have no issue with the current system.

phaneuf6
01-26-2010, 10:21 AM
I find the CFL system the most exciting, its similar to the NCAA. That being said, is it realistic in the NFL playoffs? Probably not.

b_illin
01-26-2010, 11:49 AM
See how fun it is when you bet the under and a 3-3 game turns out to be 38-35.:D

I understand the fun part because you can get a lot more football. The NFL isn't the place for it, though.

I don't gamble, so it's all gravy for me!

Hockeyis#1
03-18-2010, 11:50 AM
http://upnextinsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/funny-sports-pictures-brett-favre-scary-ghost.jpg

Any news on his decision yet?

boredguy
03-28-2010, 03:55 AM
Ask again around Aug 28th or so.

two24four
04-06-2010, 11:32 AM
Favre is for real a grandfather now, his oldest daughter had a kid not long ago.

two24four
04-22-2010, 09:39 PM
Does Jimmy go here?

King_Killah
04-22-2010, 09:41 PM
Has to be Clausen. Is it McCoy???

two24four
04-22-2010, 09:44 PM
Traded there pick to DET.

Looks like Best is going here to DET.

Dubz
04-22-2010, 09:52 PM
Traded there pick to DET.

Looks like Best is going here to DET.

:wtf:

King_Killah
04-23-2010, 05:16 PM
Chris Cook - DB. He can wreak havoc against the deep threat.

King_Killah
04-23-2010, 06:38 PM
Toby Gerhart. This is an OK pick. Peterson is obvoiusly the man. But I really really really like their back-up Albert Young. Possibly because he is from my area. He grew up literally 5 minutes from me.

eff1ngham
08-03-2010, 10:37 AM
Is it even worth talking about Favre retirement/trades/new team/etc any more?

Spartan
08-03-2010, 10:52 AM
Is it even worth talking about Favre retirement/trades/new team/etc any more?No.

two24four
08-03-2010, 11:02 AM
haha, yeah I will believe it when he does not play a game this season.

boredguy
08-03-2010, 03:44 PM
Makes for good pools though, i got Aug 27 for when he announces he'll be back.

suckerpuncher
08-03-2010, 04:09 PM
Now it's getting interesting:



A "family source" tells the Biloxi (MS) Sun Herald that Brett Favre has not decided whether to play football in 2010.
The report comes from the Herald's Al Jones, who often breaks the most crucial Favre news. "Brett has not made a commitment to play or a decision to return at this point," said the source, presumably a close family member. Meanwhile, rumors continue to circulate that Favre is making a power play for more money. Favre's former Packers teammate LeRoy Butler told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that he recently heard Favre wanted a new three-year contract from the Vikings worth $13M annually. If Butler's story is true, Favre not only wants to play in 2010. He wants to play in 2011 and 2012, too.
Source: Biloxi Sun Herald (http://www.sunherald.com/2010/08/02/2378261/family-source-favre-has-made-no.html)

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-03-2010, 04:57 PM
Makes for good pools though, i got Aug 27 for when he announces he'll be back.

:lol:

When is Vikes training camp over?

two24four
08-04-2010, 11:07 AM
Favre said today that if he's healthy he will play this season.

:lol::lol:

heliosj
08-04-2010, 11:53 AM
Such a douche...

eff1ngham
08-04-2010, 12:51 PM
Favre said today that if he's healthy he will play this season.

:lol::lol:

In all fairness, he never said he wasn't going to play. A "source with information about the situation" was the one who said he wouldn't.

But then again, Favre may be the source, who knows

two24four
08-17-2010, 03:10 PM
Sounds like Favre is coming back, he's flying to Minny now.

Training camp is pretty much over now so he's ready.

dw13
08-17-2010, 03:12 PM
Sounds like Favre is coming back, he's flying to Minny now.

Training camp is pretty much over now so he's ready.

Training camp IS over. He's definitely ready. :lol:

two24four
08-17-2010, 04:45 PM
Wow, I put the NFL network on, what's on, they where tracking Favre in his car, really people, who cares.

Doctego
08-17-2010, 05:12 PM
Wow, I put the NFL network on, what's on, they where tracking Favre in his car, really people, who cares.

Unfortunately, some people do or they wouldn't continue to show him taking a shit.

Spartan
08-17-2010, 06:10 PM
Unfortunately, some people do or they wouldn't continue to show him taking a shit.I think its like steroids in baseball. The media cares a lot more than the fans do. Its not like we have an alternate "favre free" network to turn on. Because I promise you their ratings would fly tonight.

boredguy
08-17-2010, 09:33 PM
Makes for good pools though, i got Aug 27 for when he announces he'll be back.

Fuck!

Dubz
08-17-2010, 10:29 PM
I think its like steroids in baseball. The media cares a lot more than the fans do. Its not like we have an alternate "favre free" network to turn on. Because I promise you their ratings would fly tonight.

There will never be anything like steroids in baseballl. They took the most nostalgic sport and turned it into a horse show. Unrepresentable forever imo

Spartan
08-17-2010, 10:46 PM
There will never be anything like steroids in baseballl. They took the most nostalgic sport and turned it into a horse show. Unrepresentable forever imoThe media saturates Favre in the same way is my point. Most baseball fans were not stupid and realized what was going on years before it was reported. By the time is was covered fans did not care to hear about it anymore. Just like most football fans realize that Favre is an egomaniac and know damn well he is coming back.

dw13
08-19-2010, 02:24 PM
Get well, Percy.

Kyle
08-19-2010, 02:49 PM
Get well, Percy.

To demonstrate how to properly do this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp10/news/story?id=5476849

Get well, Percy

;)

Doctego
08-19-2010, 03:11 PM
To demonstrate how to properly do this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp10/news/story?id=5476849

Get well, Percy

;)

Nice to see since they apparently demonstrated how not to do it with the Stringer scenario.

Kyle
08-19-2010, 04:30 PM
I was actually just cracking a joke on Daw for not posting a link to the news:p

dw13
08-19-2010, 05:01 PM
ESPN.com after you see what I posted.

Not doing the work for you lazy bastards :D

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-23-2010, 01:36 AM
That really sucks for Harvin. Kind of a scary thing when you consider his line of work... migraines are major suck. Not sure if any of you guys have ever had them but they are a serious bitch to deal with. Not sure bashing helmets and rocking the brain around inside the skull is the best idea for a guy who clearly suffers from migraines and possibly worse.

Hate to be Debbie Downer over here but I really hope Harvin and his medical/team staff do what is right for his current and long term health and not what is right for the better of the team here and now. With all of the controversy and speculation involved with long term brain injuries in football players... really not territory that should be played around with.

dw13
08-23-2010, 07:37 AM
I was texting with a couple of my Florida friends who are close and still in contact with Percy and they made it sound like Percy won't play all that long if they can't figure out a cure. He's had enough of them, and he's had them since he was a little kid.

That's from the horses mouth.

Kyle
09-10-2010, 02:43 AM
Wow, Favre and the Vikings were just horrible.

eff1ngham
09-10-2010, 02:50 AM
Not a big Minn hater (my hate for the Wild is equaled out by my liking of the Twins).

But: :lol:

FlyGuy78
09-10-2010, 06:35 AM
Wow, Favre and the Vikings were just horrible.

That offense def misses S.Rice!

canuckthug
09-10-2010, 09:02 AM
Vikings team report on yahoo said this:


Brett Favre joined the Vikings in late August last year, didn't get into a groove until Week 3 of the season and still they cruised to a 6-0 start. (http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/min/report)

but Vikings have a much tougher schedule this year.

FlyGuy78
09-10-2010, 11:15 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about MIN just yet. Yes they didn't look great last night, but it is early and they were playing the defending world champs.