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King_Killah
02-28-2008, 06:48 PM
PHILADELPHIA (AP)—The Freak show is over in Philadelphia.
After four mostly disappointing and injury-plagued seasons where he only showed glimpses of his feared pass rushing ability, the Eagles released defensive end Jevon Kearse (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4664/;_ylt=AvHqzQr7S50mfkej9NrOnQ8dsLYF) on Thursday.
Kearse was in the middle of a $66 million, eight-year deal signed in 2004 that made him at the time the highest-paid defensive end in NFL history.

Kearse was a monster. Sucks he got hurt so much.

King_Killah
02-29-2008, 10:26 PM
Well... so subtract Kearse, then add Asante Samuel.



PHILADELPHIA (AP)—Asante Samuel (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6456/;_ylt=Anf_FE9xMJEOkHtFE_75cmMdsLYF) has such good hands and terrific instincts that the All-Pro cornerback rarely drops the ball, one reason why he has 16 interceptions the last two years.
The Eagles instincts were on the ball, too, that Samuel was the kind of playmaker they desperately needed to strengthen a defense that recorded an NFL-worst 19 takeaways in 2007.
Philadelphia got its first one of 2008, signing the free-agent cornerback to a six-year contract on Friday and ending Samuel’s five-year stint in New England.

two24four
02-29-2008, 10:47 PM
booooo !!!!

King_Killah
02-29-2008, 11:03 PM
booooo !!!!

I was wondering how long it would be for you to chime in on this one! :D

two24four
03-01-2008, 01:18 PM
I was wondering how long it would be for you to chime in on this one! :D

Yeah it sucks, I knew this could come, but deep down I was hoping we would re-sign him, this loss hurts.

King_Killah
03-06-2008, 04:50 PM
So signing Samuel.... good move. Cutting Kearse, I can understand it because of his injury situation, although you know wherever he signs next he'll play all 16 games and be the Freak that he once was. Signing Chris Clemons, eh.... Cutting Takeo Spikes now....



PHILADELPHIA (AP)—The Philadelphia Eagles (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/phi/;_ylt=Ai6ElJOXNdELBu08jmSny2odsLYF) released two-time Pro Bowl linebacker Takeo Spikes (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4278/;_ylt=Aq.gjg2HapBdQXTRk0fRmL0dsLYF) on Thursday.
The 10-year veteran played one season in Philadelphia and finished second on the team with 139 tackles. Spikes missed the final two games last season after having shoulder surgery.
Spikes is the second high-profile player cut by the Eagles in a week. Defensive end Jevon Kearse (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4664/;_ylt=Ag1lzPEyPttbC9jimgkKkMYdsLYF) was let go last Thursday after playing four seasons in Philadelphia.
The Eagles signed All-Pro cornerback Asante Samuel (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6456/;_ylt=AvMg0iFHB5C6uMvKat7Y_lQdsLYF) and defensive end Chris Clemons (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6704/) in the first two days of the NFL’s free-agency period.

I don't get this move.

two24four
03-06-2008, 10:20 PM
I would not mind seeing the Pats sign Spikes.

King_Killah
03-06-2008, 10:29 PM
I could see that.

FlyGuy78
03-09-2008, 12:01 PM
Larry Fitzgerald: Courted by Eagles

Update: The Eagles have reportedly made a trade offer for Arizona’s Larry Fitzgerald (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6762/;_ylt=AjnSkaiZvb926rjs8C47uMwH8sMF), Delawareonline.com reports.

Recommendation: The Eagles have reportedly offered Lito Sheppard (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5912/;_ylt=AnVqgTHearWQId1OF16Ge88H8sMF) and Reggie Brown (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7211/;_ylt=Ajt4riITibkEZy_SfRb1m8AH8sMF) with hopes of forcing the Cardinals to deal Fitzgerald if they can’t reach an agreement to restructure his contract. Cardinals general manager Rod Graves has adamantly stated that Fitzgerald will remain with the Cardinals.

King_Killah
03-09-2008, 02:41 PM
Larry Fitzgerald: Courted by Eagles

Update: The Eagles have reportedly made a trade offer for Arizona’s Larry Fitzgerald (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6762/;_ylt=AjnSkaiZvb926rjs8C47uMwH8sMF), Delawareonline.com reports.

Recommendation: The Eagles have reportedly offered Lito Sheppard (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5912/;_ylt=AnVqgTHearWQId1OF16Ge88H8sMF) and Reggie Brown (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7211/;_ylt=Ajt4riITibkEZy_SfRb1m8AH8sMF) with hopes of forcing the Cardinals to deal Fitzgerald if they can’t reach an agreement to restructure his contract. Cardinals general manager Rod Graves has adamantly stated that Fitzgerald will remain with the Cardinals.

For this moment, let's say the Eagles can pull this off. HUGE DEAL FOR THE EAGLES. Later Lito. And if any team is willing to take Reggie Brown or any of the butt receivers that Philly has to offer, more power to them.

Now... I know Fitzgerald's contract is kinda messy for Arizona right now. It is actually holding them back from acquiring a full roster. However, they are in the works of reconstructing the contract and all word is that they will get that done. Not even the slightest peep that they won't and that they'll be forced to move Fitz. Honestly, I would be shocked 10000% if Fitz moves. I can see Arizona moving Anquan Boldin before they move Fitz.

two24four
03-11-2008, 01:22 PM
Look like Fitzgerald has signed a new 4 year deal worth $40M with the Cards, say's he also has a no-trade clause in the deal.

http://tsn.ca/nfl/news_story/?ID=231771&hubname=

King_Killah
06-06-2008, 12:53 PM
Update on Kevin Kolb.


Eagles HC Andy Reid said that second-year QB Kevin Kolb (http://www.footballguys.com/KolbKe00-1.php) has a grip on the No. 2 quarterback job, behind starter Donovan McNabb (http://www.footballguys.com/McNaDo00-1.php) and in front of veteran A.J. Feeley (http://www.footballguys.com/FeelA.00-1.php). "I've seen improvement [in Kolb], and right now he has a seasoned veteran ahead of him and behind him," Reid said. "He has a lot of knowledge there to draw from and learn from. He's competing right now. That No. 2 spot allows him to get a few more reps than what A.J. might get in the third spot." Feeley played in three games last season, throwing three interceptions, the same number McNabb had in 14 games played.

Should be expected. If McNabb is still in town, McNabb has the job to lose. Not surprised Kolb is over Feeley at all.

FlyGuy78
06-06-2008, 02:59 PM
I think this is McNabb's last year. If he doesn't take them to the playoffs, he's done and they will make room for Kolb.

King_Killah
06-06-2008, 04:44 PM
I think this is McNabb's last year. If he doesn't take them to the playoffs, he's done and they will make room for Kolb.

No one is convinced that he will even be here to start this season just yet. I was flicking through radio stations and stopped at 610 and they were talking about how there is still trade talks/rumors with Chicago which is why the Rex Grossman/Kyle Orton thing was actually not a big deal. The Baltimore angle is shot with the Ravens taking Flacco.

Side note on Flacco: I was just in Baltimore. They already have Flacco jerseys selling for $79.95-$99.95. They also have silly posters and plaques saying Flacco's Our Saviour selling for $9.95. Awesome... FU - Boller!

King_Killah
06-10-2008, 01:59 PM
As Kolb's job is coming closer and closer...



PHILADELPHIA (AP)—Donovan McNabb (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4650/;_ylt=AkqCuG9zjbhmPGz7AGHu6NwdsLYF) is sitting out the Philadelphia Eagles (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/phi/;_ylt=AobJezyMGiSErb0yDQSIym0dsLYF)’ passing camp Tuesday with shoulder tendinitis.
The five-time Pro Bowl quarterback likely will miss the rest of the week’s organized team activities. Kevin Kolb (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8290/;_ylt=AlaPEhqs4Lj2G5CXjoHXQrgdsLYF), a second-round pick last season, worked with the first-team offense in McNabb’s absence.
McNabb hasn’t played an injury-free season since leading the Eagles to the Super Bowl in 2004. He missed the final seven games in 2005 with a sports hernia, sat out the last eight games, including playoffs, in 2006 with a torn knee ligament and missed two games last year with a sprained ankle and injured thumb.

King_Killah
07-10-2008, 02:16 PM
Booker seeing reps...


Philadelphia Eagles running back Lorenzo Booker (http://www.footballguys.com/BookLo00-1.php) saw quite a few reps in the spring workouts, and he's mirroring Brian Westbrook (http://www.footballguys.com/WestBr00-1.php) - lining up as a lone setback, tailing a fullback or running routes from the slot. The idea seems to be allowing Westbrook to get a little extra rest while not drastically changing the gameplan for head coach Andy Reid and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg. "We're just trying to get more speed on the field." Westbrook said. "Lorenzo brings a big-play capability as well to the field. He's very fast, very shifty, has very good hands. We're just trying to put more playmakers on the field at the same time."

I wouldn't get too excited because Westbrook is clearly the man, but if West gets hurt...Book can bring it.

King_Killah
07-18-2008, 02:31 PM
A little something on Westbrook.


Taking a page from CB Lito Sheppard, Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (http://www.footballguys.com/WestBr00-1.php) will also change agents in an effort to spark negotiations for a new contract and/or extension. "When I signed my contract with the Eagles 2 1/2 years ago, they paid me for the level of play I was playing at the time," said Westbrook, who fired Fletcher Smith as his representative. "I'm not at that level no more. I'm at a higher level of play.... My numbers have steadily increased from that point until now. Now, I'm at the point where I'm one of the elite backs in the NFL, and I should be compensated that way." Westbrook cannot officially hire a new agent until Saturday, although a source indicated that he may hire All Pro Sports & Entertainment Inc., the group that includes agents Peter Schaffer and Lamont Smith.

Now just wait a second here... Westbrook, unhappy... If this gets ugly, Booker may be the man. Oh wait....... Westbrook is one of the nice guys in the league. He'll work through the issues. I can understand his reasoning for more money. I still believe that a contract is a contract. If you want more, ask when its time to renew.

King_Killah
07-18-2008, 03:00 PM
Later Lito...


Player Agent Drew Rosenhaus confirmed on Wednesday that he has recently been hired by Philadelphia Eagles cornerback Lito Sheppard to represent him. He also said that Sheppard has no plans to hold out of Training Camp. "I'm very optimistic, working with the Eagles, that we're going to find a mutually beneficial solution," Rosenhaus said.

You know the Eagles relationship with Rosenhaus. Not good for Lito.

FlyGuy78
07-18-2008, 03:02 PM
yeah i agree with living up to the terms, but you know that's not how business goes in sports. If anyone on that team should ask for a raise, it's Westbrook.

dw13
07-18-2008, 03:02 PM
He can stay in green and become a Jet :D

King_Killah
07-21-2008, 10:59 AM
Little more on Westbrook...




Brian Westbrook (http://www.footballguys.com/WestBr00-1.php), the Eagles' All-Pro running back, recently suggested that he might hold out from training camp in a display of discontent over his contract.
The report also quoted Westbrook as saying he probably wouldn't hold out from training camp, but hadn't made up his mind.

Camp opens Monday at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, Pa., when rookies and selected veterans are scheduled to report by 5 p.m. The rest of the team is scheduled to report by Thursday evening.

I still firmly believe that Westbrook is one of those players that will do what is necessary for the team and let his agent work out monetary issues. I don't expect him to holdout. But if things get ugly... Lorenzo Booker is waiting in the wings!

King_Killah
08-01-2008, 11:15 AM
"Like I said the biggest thing for me is that's it's hard not to be on the field and practicing," (DeSean) Jackson said. "It just feels good to go out there and push myself. The hammy is feeling good. I just want to stay healthy and get through everything." For Jackson, staying healthy and getting in as many practices as possible is vital. The Eagles' West Coast offense is notoriously hard to learn. That's why first-year players usually struggle.

Don't expect much from Jackson this year. If your league counts return yards then maybe. Otherwise... I'd pass on him.

King_Killah
08-09-2008, 05:55 PM
The Philadelphia Eagles announced earlier this afternoon that they have agreed to terms with RB Brian Westbrook (http://www.footballguys.com/WestBr00-1.php) on a new contract. Terms of the deal were not revealed. "As I've said many times, I believe Brian Westbrook (http://www.footballguys.com/WestBr00-1.php) is the best running back in football," said head coach Andy Reid. "He can do it all from that position, whether it's running, catching the football or blocking. He is true professional and leader on and off the field and it's a great deal for both Brian and the Eagles organization."

Figured this would get done pretty quickly.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-09-2008, 07:02 PM
Figured this would get done pretty quickly.

excellent!

King_Killah
08-18-2008, 06:54 PM
In one of these exhibition games, Philadelphia Eagles receiver Reggie Brown (http://www.footballguys.com/BrowRe01-1.php) is actually going to stay on the field. The 6-foot-1, 197-pound former Georgia Bulldog left during the Eagles' opening drive against Carolina last night with a pulled hamstring. Brown was scheduled to have an MRI exam this morning. He missed the preseason opener in Pittsburgh last week with an Achilles tendon injury. That injury also caused him to miss some practice this week during training camp at Lehigh.

Philly's passing game is pretty ill too... Reggie Brown = overrated. DeSean Jackson is too small to be the answer. Hank Baskett is a joke. They need to give Westbrook $100mil guaranteed.

FlyGuy78
08-20-2008, 03:08 PM
Eagles WR Curtis to have sports hernia surgery

PHILADELPHIA (TICKER) —Philadelphia Eagles (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/phi/;_ylt=AusVMOmQbSfsngIMZgvj1kkLubYF) wide receiver Kevin Curtis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players;_ylt=AuvQ22qyrLS3PZLQv8IXATkLubYF?type=las tname&first=1&query=Kevin+Curtis&q=Kevin+Curtis) will undergo sports hernia surgery and could be sidelined for an extended period, coach Andy Reid announced Wednesday.

The full extent of the injury will not be clear until Curtis undergoes surgery Thursday, so no timetable was given for a possible return. But Reid said Curtis will be out “for a while.”

Curtis was injured in last Thursday’s preseason game against the Carolina Panthers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/car/;_ylt=AmqSsN2kqlJRic_C5ockfkgLubYF).
“He tried to work through it but wasn’t able to function very well with it during practice, so we decided to go in this direction,” Reid said.

Curtis becomes the third Eagle to have a sports hernia in the last few years.

Quarterback Donovan McNabb (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4650/;_ylt=AkT9_q4lJOmI2x8KRaxyjocLubYF) had surgery during the 2005 season after trying
to play through the injury. Tight end L.J. Smith (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6397/;_ylt=AgInAyTNkybzFbK3DwB0L.oLubYF) had offseason surgery in the spring of 2007, but the injury lingered during the season after he suffered another injury to the area during training camp.

The injury to Curtis further depletes an already shaky receiving corps which also is missing starter Reggie Brown (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7211/;_ylt=Alh1xbkFcCfguwsriFGffykLubYF) due to a hamstring injury.

Curtis was the Eagles’ top receiver last season, catching 77 passes for 1,110 yards and matching a career high with six touchdowns. He signed with the club as a free agent prior to last season.

McNabb, who unsuccessfully lobbied for the club to add another playmaker at wide receiver during the offseason, will now be throwing to untested rookie DeSean Jackson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8826/;_ylt=ApnBvHodg6R0I.varv5HtosLubYF) and Hank Baskett (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8010/;_ylt=AuArcHTTWPp3HM7SPZl51RQLubYF) and Greg Lewis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6655/;_ylt=AqAFK.2sLXiSaIAaByBQV.4LubYF) - two marginal receivers - when the Eagles open their season at home against the St. Louis Rams (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/stl/;_ylt=AlACoyGpFWc49BLq1ga_rtILubYF) on September 7.

Despite Curtis’ injury, the stubborn Reid said the Eagles would not pursue a trade for a wide receiver.

It would have seemed logical that the Arizona Cardinals (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/ari/;_ylt=Aiqvxa_w0VRKVMhuc.6Nj88LubYF) could be a trading partner, since wide receiver Anquan Boldin (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6390/;_ylt=AiYX4hraB5oGLngdOs6XBwsLubYF) is unhappy with his contract. The Eagles also have a player unhappy with his contract in two-time Pro Bowl cornerback Lito Sheppard (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5912/;_ylt=Akw41UjquTGx9N0JiAXXSxILubYF).

Now that would be interesting!!

King_Killah
08-20-2008, 04:05 PM
Now that would be interesting!!

It would be interesting for Boldin to come to Philly... However, according to Andy Reid... they aren't looking to bring in another receiver. However, if they do... odds are good that Horn will be the guy.

FlyGuy78
08-20-2008, 04:06 PM
I would think Horn over Boldin too just because the Eagles don't like paying top dollar for WR. Owens is the last time they did, and look how that turned out.

spoonie luv
08-20-2008, 07:03 PM
I would think Horn over Boldin too just because the Eagles don't like paying top dollar for WR. Owens is the last time they did, and look how that turned out.

And it would make too much sense for the Eagles to trade their disgruntled pro bowl cornerback for a legit #1 receiver. A foursome of Boldin, Curtis (once healthy), Jackson and Brown would be nice along with Westbrook and LJ Smith but I'd be shocked if it happened.


I agree they'll make a play at Horn instead.

King_Killah
08-22-2008, 10:49 AM
Eagles HC Andy Reid said starting WR Reggie Brown (http://www.footballguys.com/BrowRe01-1.php) (hamstring) will be ready for the opening regular season game against St. Louis. The team is in need of reliable targets after losing WR Kevin Curtis (http://www.footballguys.com/CurtKe00-1.php) for 6-8 weeks with a sports hernia. Reid also said he the team is not interested in signing veteran WR Joe Horn (http://www.footballguys.com/HornJo00-1.php) or making a move to acquire Anquan Boldin and that he's plenty confident in receiver Hank Baskett (http://www.footballguys.com/BaskHa00-1.php) and DeSean Jackson (http://www.footballguys.com/JackDe00-1.php) to fill in the gaps. "We'll be fine there," he said.

I don't get this... Reggie Brown is booty... Not a #1 receiver. Baskett is booty. DeSean Jackson... we'll have to see. The Eagles receiving unit it weak at best.

FlyGuy78
08-22-2008, 10:59 AM
I don't get this... Reggie Brown is booty... Not a #1 receiver. Baskett is booty. DeSean Jackson... we'll have to see. The Eagles receiving unit it weak at best.

Remember, Reid is not a fan of WR for some reason. He has always said he's happy with what he has, which is why they won't ever win a SB. The closest they got was the year they actually brought in a REAL WR in T.O., but I guess that didn't prove to Reid that having a #1 WR can actually HELP your team.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-23-2008, 03:54 PM
Jackson sure had a nice td run offa kick off against NE this weekend...

King_Killah
08-26-2008, 10:57 AM
Most teams prefer to go with a bigger, more physical receiver at the split end, the "X" receiver. The split end lines up on the ball and will face considerably more press coverage than the flanker. Kevin Curtis (http://www.footballguys.com/CurtKe00-1.php) is the Eagles' starter there, and it's where Terrell Owens (http://www.footballguys.com/OwenTe00-1.php) excelled in 2004.
With Curtis out, Hank Baskett (http://www.footballguys.com/BaskHa00-1.php) is the team's best fit, Mornhinweg said.

"Hank's a big, physical guy, and he plays all over the place," he said. "He's a really smart guy, but his main spot is that split end."

Well... ugh...

King_Killah
08-28-2008, 11:38 AM
Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Kevin Curtis (http://www.footballguys.com/CurtKe00-1.php), coach Andy Reid and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg weren't willing to speculate on when Curtis would be available again after undergoing a sports hernia surgery, but they're taking a conservative approach. That might be because of the debacle tight end L.J. Smith (http://www.footballguys.com/SmitL.00-1.php)'s 2007 season became because of a sports hernia. Curtis said he talked to Smith as well as quarterback Donovan McNabb (http://www.footballguys.com/McNaDo00-1.php) and cornerback Sheldon Brown, both former sports hernia victims, and came to the conclusion he'll have to find his own way back. "Each injury is different. They're not all the exact same, and there's different time frames," Curtis said.

Although I wouldn't consider him a #1 receiver like the Eagles do, it is a big blow to the Eagles receiving game. What it does though is open the door for DeSean Jackson to prove himself as NFL worthy a little faster. Andy Reid typically doesn't use rookies, especially receivers right off the bat, but Jackson is going to get his shot. He has critics and I think he has the ability to silence those critics. I just hope he doesn't get overshadowed by the likes of Hank Baskett, Jason Avant, Greg Lewis, or even Reggie Brown for that matter.

two24four
08-29-2008, 12:47 PM
Eagles rookie WR DeSean Jackson was held out of Thursday's game against the Jets.

It's an indication of how valuable he's become to the Eagles immediate plans. Coach Andy Reid said he can't remember ever holding out a healthy rookie in the final preseason game.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20080829_Eagles_Notes___Jackson_takes_seat_for_fin ale.html)

mrtybrodur30
09-07-2008, 11:34 PM
just wanted to know what you thought of mcnabb today killah

especially that 90 yarder to baskett!! lol j/k i agree baskett isnt a great option but again i think mcnabb will be huge this season i started him week 1 and am very happy i did!!

also after following desean jackson the last few years around here @ CAL it was awesome to see him not only get a chance today but to see him play awesome, he had the big catch on the first drive that led to a td and had a few other big catches and had a few decent punt returns over 200 total yards in his first nfl game!!

King_Killah
09-14-2008, 09:02 AM
Sorry I haven't gotten to this sooner, been hectic busy, then Internet issues when Verizon chopped up Comcast lines when they were installing new Fios lines. I'll answer this by section.


just wanted to know what you thought of mcnabb today killah

I thought McNabb had a good game. But this goes back to what I have said about having a good receiver. DeSean Jackson is no Terrell Owens, but is certainly better than any of the junk receivers they have in Philly. Also, McNabb's game was more a part of the Rams just not showing up. No pressure whatsoever on McNabb. Any QB who has 3, 5, 12 seconds to get rid of the ball will have a nice day.


especially that 90 yarder to baskett!! lol j/k i agree baskett isnt a great option but again i think mcnabb will be huge this season i started him week 1 and am very happy i did!!

Hank Baskett. Hahahaha.... Get out of here. The 90 yard play was more Baskett than McNabb, but if you are starting Baskett, your team is in trouble.


also after following desean jackson the last few years around here @ CAL it was awesome to see him not only get a chance today but to see him play awesome, he had the big catch on the first drive that led to a td and had a few other big catches and had a few decent punt returns over 200 total yards in his first nfl game!!

DeSean Jackson had a great game and will have a nice season, career. I like the kid. I was shocked that Philly actually drafted him. His major contribution will immediately be on the return game. 2000% improvement over Reno Mahe and that other crap they had back there. His speed and hands will give McNabb a target that he needs. Jackson has the ability to make plays out of nothing.

All that said... If you actually watched the Eagles/Rams game. For as bad as the Rams played, there were multiple passes from McNabb that soared 15 feet over the receivers head or fell 5 yards short of the receiver. Jackson made a couple of those errant throws into completions. McNabb is still not a great QB. He just has a better weapon that will help now.

mrtybrodur30
09-16-2008, 01:54 AM
well first no i would never start baskett in any league it was a joke lol and that 90 yard td should have only been a 30 something yard catch whoever that ram was in the secondary should of made the tackle.......anyways on to the monday night game mcnabb played great imo. i didnt start him this week, went with cutler so that worked nicely but yeah mcnabb had a great game it was a shame they couldnt pull out the W, the mcnabb/westbrook fumble whatever play that was or was going to be cost them big, they had the lead with the chance to make it a 2 score game but they let it slip away.

also desean played another awesome game, yeah he had that long catch that should of been a td but oh well he still played great and is turning into a huge weapon in the offense. i loved him at Cal but even i didnt expect him to have a game like this let alone 2 this early in his career awesome to watch him play.

PMStick
09-21-2008, 06:30 PM
Westbrook goes down tonight...anyone see it? Leg/knee injury...how bad?

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
09-21-2008, 06:41 PM
Westbrook goes down tonight...anyone see it? Leg/knee injury...how bad?\

yes and it was an ankle... check the forums.

King_Killah
09-21-2008, 07:19 PM
Ankle injury....they really didn't talk about it much here in the Philly area, but the way he landed I would be surprised if he isn't out 4 weeks or more.

Back-up RB, Tony Hunt also got hurt....his hit looks like it could be extensive.

McNabb also hurt, but came back... Good chance that he is out next week, MRI scheduled for tomorrow.

King_Killah
05-28-2009, 11:47 AM
[quote=PhiladelphiaEagles.comDave Spadaro, of PhiladelphiaEagles.com, reports Philadelphia Eagles TE Cornelius Ingram (http://www.footballguys.com/IngrCo00-1.php) (knee) suffered a left knee contusion during practice Wednesday, May 27, but is expected to be fine.[/quote]

Certainly a banged up Ingram with one knee is better than LJ Smith!!! Didn't Ingram miss the entire '08 season with the Gators?? Dawinna can confirm or deny that one. The Eagles can only hope he stays healthy. I am not a fan of Celek or Schobel.

King_Killah
06-08-2009, 10:45 AM
Jeff McLane, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports Philadelphia Eagles QB Donovan McNabb (http://www.footballguys.com/McNaDo00-1.php) was asked about the possibility of having his contract reworked.
McNabb said that it "will take care of itself."

McNabb has two years left on a seven-year extension he signed in 2002. He is slated to earn $9.2 million this season and $10 million next, but the money is not guaranteed. On Tuesday, Comcast SportsNet reported that the Eagles and McNabb were working on restructuring the final two years of the deal, perhaps guaranteeing some of the money, if not extending the deal

Eagles president Joe Banner has declined to discuss McNabb's situation specifically. Banner has said the team will look at renegotiating some deals in special situations.

Good for McNabb to be quiet while the deal is done. Not a fan of McNabb, but I hate the bitches that whine and cry about their deals and don't do what they are supposed to do even though they still have time and money on their contract.

King_Killah
06-11-2009, 12:01 PM
Matt Mosley, of ESPN.com, reports Philadelphia Eagles RB LeSean McCoy (http://www.footballguys.com/McCoLe01-1.php) could be the quarterback in the team's Wildcat offense this season.

Another team adding the Wild Cat... :rolleyes:

King_Killah
07-01-2009, 03:08 PM
Drew Rosenhaus, on his twitter feed, reports that Eagles second round pick RB LeSean McCoy (http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/McCoLe01-1.php) has signed a four-year contract. He is the first second round pick to sign.

Good for Philly fans and potential owners. McCoy will be in camp from the beginning and be prepared to compete with Lorenzo Booker for snaps that Westbrook can't take while he recovers from surgery.

King_Killah
07-22-2009, 07:00 PM
Reuben Frank, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports that Eagles TE Brent Celek (http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/CeleBr00-1.php) says he is lighter and stronger than last year. Frank also writes that Celek had the third highest catch total in a single postseason of any tight end in the history of the league.

Certainly better than LJ Smith... But I am not sure I would waste much time or thought on him, unless you are stuck drafting a TE late.

dw13
07-22-2009, 07:04 PM
Certainly better than LJ Smith... But I am not sure I would waste much time or thought on him, unless you are stuck drafting a TE late.

Whats the news on my man Ingram? How is his knee coming along? He has much more talent than Celek.

keys2aFranchise
07-28-2009, 05:44 PM
RIP Jim Johnson

FlyGuy78
07-28-2009, 06:07 PM
One of the best dc's to coach the game!
Rip jim

b_illin
07-28-2009, 06:13 PM
Wow, shitty...RIP

(and glad I passed on the Philly DEF this year!)

dw13
07-28-2009, 06:18 PM
Wow, shitty...RIP

(and glad I passed on the Philly DEF this year!)

RIP JJ.

And passing the Philly's D? They will have a fire under their ass this year, to play for JJ.

King_Killah
07-28-2009, 07:32 PM
RIP JJ.

And passing the Philly's D? They will have a fire under their ass this year, to play for JJ.

One would like to believe that...but I think this defense is in trouble... I am not seeing this defense excel under Sean McDermott. I don't think they will be a bad defense, I am not sure that they will be a great defense though. This defense used to be able to win games, now McNabb is going to have to get something done, and we all know how I feel about him!

That said...... RIP Jim Johnson. I firmly believe he was the best defensive coordinator the NFL has seen in some time.

Doctego
07-29-2009, 02:46 PM
Meant to post something a few days ago but announcing his replacement couldn't be seen as a good sign of his health.

RIP, JJ.

Doctego
07-29-2009, 02:47 PM
That said...... RIP Jim Johnson. I firmly believe he was the best defensive coordinator the NFL has seen in some time.

He has to be up there when you think of DC's that were able to come up with great schemes.

b_illin
07-29-2009, 06:33 PM
One would like to believe that...but I think this defense is in trouble... I am not seeing this defense excel under Sean McDermott. I don't think they will be a bad defense, I am not sure that they will be a great defense though. This defense used to be able to win games, now McNabb is going to have to get something done, and we all know how I feel about him!

That said...... RIP Jim Johnson. I firmly believe he was the best defensive coordinator the NFL has seen in some time.

Lebeau is better I think...but not by a lot

Doctego
07-29-2009, 08:31 PM
Lebeau is better I think...but not by a lot

I don't really see how you could qualify or quantify that but we'll save that for another thread.

Hockeyis#1
07-29-2009, 09:15 PM
I don't really see how you could qualify or quantify that but we'll save that for another thread.

That could be said about a lot (perhaps majority) of "greatest of all time" arguments.

Doctego
07-29-2009, 10:48 PM
That could be said about a lot (perhaps majority) of "greatest of all time" arguments.

I won't disagree with that statement.

King_Killah
07-30-2009, 12:17 PM
Reports are showing that Westbrook looks to be on the positive track forward. He was on the field performing drills with a soccer ball.

At this point, I am leary of Westbrook and think he is more of a headache unless you can get LeSean McCoy as well. I think there are more options out there for where Westbrook would be picked without the worry of whether he is fragile or not.

FlyGuy78
07-30-2009, 12:22 PM
At this point, I am leary of Westbrook and think he is more of a headache unless you can get LeSean McCoy as well. I think there are more options out there for where Westbrook would be picked without the worry of whether he is fragile or not.

It's a shame because Westbrook is one of the best when healthy. The guy can do it all.

King_Killah
07-30-2009, 12:51 PM
PhiladelphiaEagles.com is reporting Cornelius Ingram (http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/IngrCo00-1.php), who has been on the field these first two days of practice at Lehigh University, provides goosebump moments. He is a man at 6 feet 4, 245 pounds. He runs well, and is so big and physical that you can imagine the things the Eagles might be able to do with him. "I know that this is just the beginning. I feel great and I think I'm going to have a lot of opportunities to get better," said Ingram, a fifth-round pick from Florida who missed all of last season with the Gators after suffering a torn anterior cruciate ligament in practice. "My goal is to keep improving every single day and if I do that, I'll be where I want to be."

This is a spot on the Eagles team that I like. The Eagles used to use the TE spot a lot, when they had Chad Lewis. Since Lewis, they haven't had a decent TE. Ingram is big and will create mis-matches everytime because he is too fast for LBs to cover and too big for safeties to cover.

King_Killah
08-10-2009, 06:43 PM
This is a spot on the Eagles team that I like. The Eagles used to use the TE spot a lot, when they had Chad Lewis. Since Lewis, they haven't had a decent TE. Ingram is big and will create mis-matches everytime because he is too fast for LBs to cover and too big for safeties to cover.

...and this is out of the question now since Ingram is out for the season. :rolleyes:

King_Killah
08-10-2009, 06:43 PM
Reuben Frank, of The Burlington County Times, reports Philadelphia Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/WestBr00-1.php) (ankle) remained out of practice Saturday, Aug. 8.

If you have Westbrook, be sure you get McCoy.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-10-2009, 08:28 PM
Is it morally wrong for me encourage and hope for injury upon an NFL player for the benefit of my own fantasy football teams? ;)

dw13
08-10-2009, 08:29 PM
...and this is out of the question now since Ingram is out for the season. :rolleyes:

He is? Man.... I love Ingram man, get healthy again big guy

Dubz
08-10-2009, 08:38 PM
Is it morally wrong for me encourage and hope for injury upon an NFL player for the benefit of my own fantasy football teams? ;)

:muahaha:

Hockeyis#1
08-12-2009, 10:10 AM
Is it morally wrong for me encourage and hope for injury upon an NFL player for the benefit of my own fantasy football teams? ;)
Thankfully, I've read of no moral/ethics code so far....


If there is, looks like I'll be joining you in fantasy sports hell. (DIE Pierre Thomas!!!)

FlyGuy78
08-12-2009, 10:17 AM
Thankfully, I've read of no moral/ethics code so far....


If there is, looks like I'll be joining you in fantasy sports hell. (DIE Pierre Thomas!!!)

Hahaha....I've drafted Pierre Thomas in most of my leagues this year for the same reason...Bush will go down!! :evilgrin:

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-12-2009, 10:36 AM
Thankfully, I've read of no moral/ethics code so far....


If there is, looks like I'll be joining you in fantasy sports hell. (DIE Pierre Thomas!!!)

:lol:

Yeah I wouldn't mind seeing Mr.Headache to own Brian Westbrook bust his ankle or break a femur or something. You know, nothing too tragic or life threatening.. just enough damage to keep him from moving around for a while -- say 16-20 weeks? ;)

Hockeyis#1
08-12-2009, 03:06 PM
Hahaha....I've drafted Pierre Thomas in most of my leagues this year for the same reason...Bush will go down!! :evilgrin:

Nobody likes a dream killer

eff1ngham
08-13-2009, 10:33 AM
If you have Westbrook, be sure you get McCoy.

Heh, no kidding. But the problem is that Westbrook rarely actually misses a game. He'll miss one, maybe two a year, but at least 1/3 of his games he's "questionable" with some injury. But then he'll blow up for like 35 points. And the next week that he's "questionable" he'll score 6 points. Even when Tom Brady is listed on the injury report every week you know he's going to produce. Westbrook is the most annoyingly inconsistent fantasy player of all-time :mad:

Hockeyis#1
08-13-2009, 10:38 AM
:lol:
You know, nothing too tragic or life threatening.. just enough damage to keep him from moving around for a while -- say 16-20 weeks? ;)

You're in medicine, I'm sure you can come up with something very plausible

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-13-2009, 01:44 PM
Heh, no kidding. But the problem is that Westbrook rarely actually misses a game. He'll miss one, maybe two a year, but at least 1/3 of his games he's "questionable" with some injury. But then he'll blow up for like 35 points. And the next week that he's "questionable" he'll score 6 points. Even when Tom Brady is listed on the injury report every week you know he's going to produce. Westbrook is the most annoyingly inconsistent fantasy player of all-time :mad:

Which is exactly why I traded his stupid ass away this season. He is SO solid when healthy and firing on all cylinders but he is such a headache to own. I just got so sick and tired of that BS. He'd be questionable up until game time, sounded as if he'd sit, so I would sit him and slate one of my back up RB into my starting line up.. seemed like the safer option. Then low and behold at the last minute Westbrook would play and blow up with a huge game. So I'd be like okay, cool, and play him the following week, only to see him do jack shit the entire game. Fucking jag off!

rico3994
08-13-2009, 04:46 PM
I just got so sick and tired of that BS. He'd be questionable up until game time, sounded as if he'd sit, so I would sit him and slate one of my back up RB into my starting line up.. seemed like the safer option. Then low and behold at the last minute Westbrook would play and blow up with a huge game. So I'd be like okay, cool, and play him the following week, only to see him do jack shit the entire game. Fucking jag off!
So then you went out and drafted McCoy, now when you see Westbrook as questionable you can start the backup and watch Westbook go for 200 yards and 2 TDs while McCoy gets 25 yards on 6 carries :D

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-13-2009, 05:25 PM
So then you went out and drafted McCoy, now when you see Westbrook as questionable you can start the backup and watch Westbook go for 200 yards and 2 TDs while McCoy gets 25 yards on 6 carries :D

Well to be honest that wasn't my initial plan but he was the best available rookie RB (imo) by the time my first round pick came around so I went with it! I've got 3 other RB that I plan on slating in as starters this season so I was def. thinking young and future. Though I do believe he will hold some real decent value this season. The Eagles will want to keep Westbrook as healthy and fresh as possible down the stretch and so I def. think McCoy will cut into his numbers and take away some touches. 30/31 years old, 2 off season surgeries and an already aching ankle for Westbrook is not a headache I cared to burden any longer. lol.

Start stocking up on that aspirin ;)

Though I must admit -- with my fantasy luck, Brian Westbrook will have a monster season this year and stay 100% healthy. That was a possibility I was and am still more than willing to accept :p

dw13
08-13-2009, 08:01 PM
Vick to the Eagles.

FlyGuy78
08-13-2009, 08:15 PM
vick to the eagles.

wow!!!

boredguy
08-13-2009, 08:30 PM
As an Eagles fan i understand the move from a performance stand point and this probably does improve the team. But damn i fucking hate Vick and wish they hadn't signed him.

FlyGuy78
08-13-2009, 08:32 PM
As an Eagles fan i understand the move from a performance stand point and this probably does improve the team. But damn i fucking hate Vick and wish they hadn't signed him.

I just wonder what kind of football shape this guy is in. he relies on his speed and i'm wondering if all this time off if he has lost that speed.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-13-2009, 09:06 PM
I just wonder what kind of football shape this guy is in. he relies on his speed and i'm wondering if all this time off if he has lost that speed.

Not where I expected him to end up either. McNabb is clearly QB of this team. Right now. Off the bat - where does Vick fit in?

rico3994
08-13-2009, 09:25 PM
Not where I expected him to end up either. McNabb is clearly QB of this team. Right now. Off the bat - where does Vick fit in?

Ya its a bit weird to see him go there. They already have dynamic pieces everywhere in that lineup...McNabb can pass and run, Westbrook can run and catch, Jackson is all over the place and they have another 3 or 4 possible WRs.
Does anyone think he is just there to be a backup QB - I think hes going to line up as a WR or even have 2 QBs in some sets.

King_Killah
08-13-2009, 09:46 PM
Ya its a bit weird to see him go there. They already have dynamic pieces everywhere in that lineup...McNabb can pass and run, Westbrook can run and catch, Jackson is all over the place and they have another 3 or 4 possible WRs.
Does anyone think he is just there to be a backup QB - I think hes going to line up as a WR or even have 2 QBs in some sets.

I am SHOCKED at this move...

But let me make some corrections here... McNabb, really can't pass and doesn't run anymore. He may be the guy for now, but his days were numbered. They didn't give him an extension, they just reworked the $$$. Westbrook can run and catch, sure...but he is fragile now. Jackson will be all over the place.

Interesting to say the least...

Holy crap!

dw13
08-13-2009, 10:20 PM
Not where I expected him to end up either. McNabb is clearly QB of this team. Right now. Off the bat - where does Vick fit in?

It's a great thing that they have an established #1. Vick can sit, get practice reps and get back in shape. Then Andy Reid (Offensive Guru) will be able to install him as a gadget man, in an offense that helps QB's.

Was a damn good move on their part, IMO.

Spartan
08-13-2009, 11:12 PM
I guess I need a new team to root for in the NFC East.

Washington or Dallas, no freaking way their owners are wackjobs. It has to be the Giants by default.:(

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-14-2009, 10:33 AM
Yeah I gotta agree about using Vick in gadget plays and getting him involved in the offense right away.. but how do people think this move relates to McNabb and his long term future with the Eagles ? If at all.. ?

FlyGuy78
08-14-2009, 10:49 AM
Yeah I gotta agree about using Vick in gadget plays and getting him involved in the offense right away.. but how do people think this move relates to McNabb and his long term future with the Eagles ? If at all.. ?

Well I don't think McNabb should care considering they already drafted his replacement in Kolb, so they said. I don't think Vick is the future QB of the Eagles, just a short-term addition to the team.

Hockeyis#1
08-15-2009, 02:39 PM
This certainly makes my bet that I made the day he went to jail that he'll take a regular season NFL snap again look like a lock.

Outside of the wildcat and barring a McNabb injury...will he really get much PT?

King_Killah
08-29-2009, 05:55 PM
Adam Caplan, of Scout.com, reports on his Twitter feed that Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (http://subscribers.footballguys.com/players/WestBr00-1.php) and QB Michael Vick will play in the team's third preseason game on Thursday, August 27.

...and subsequently Westbrook goes down... (HAHAHAH) wouldn't have been shocked if that did happen. Still selling Westbrook and letting others take on that headache and would much more like McCoy on my team. But good to see him back in action.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
08-30-2009, 04:02 PM
...and subsequently Westbrook goes down... (HAHAHAH) wouldn't have been shocked if that did happen. Still selling Westbrook and letting others take on that headache and would much more like McCoy on my team. But good to see him back in action.

:werd:

He's def. past his prime and on the decline (so to speak) but I bet Westbrook stays healthy and has a monster year this season! I mean.. that's usually what happens when I trade a guy like him away. :p

King_Killah
08-31-2009, 05:09 PM
:werd:

He's def. past his prime and on the decline (so to speak) but I bet Westbrook stays healthy and has a monster year this season! I mean.. that's usually what happens when I trade a guy like him away. :p

Yeah, I hear ya... The key to Westbrook staying healthy and having a monster year is for Andy Reid and Philly to not rely on Westbrook to produce 75%-80% of the offense. I do think some of that has been taken off his shoulders with DeSean Jackson. I also think that McCoy will benefit as well... Give some of the carries to LeSean...builds McCoy's game, keeps West's legs healthy. And we still don't know the full aspect of what Vick's role will be.

King_Killah
09-03-2009, 09:30 PM
Goodell Ruled.... And Vick gets to play...



EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP)—Michael Vick (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5448/;_ylt=AicSIhxpbsKIBb3DVDyb2NsdsLYF)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5448/news;_ylt=AkX4J2GdcptG0jSWmzGfv1QdsLYF) has scored his first NFL touchdown since the 2006 season, giving the Philadelphia Eagles (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/phi/;_ylt=Al_Qsr7pwYHtMoZkyErUpDgdsLYF) a 14-7 lead over the New York Jets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nyj/) early in the second quarter.
Playing in his second game with the Eagles, Vick lined up at quarterback, faked a handoff and ran up the middle from 2 yards out 25 seconds into the quarter Thursday night.

He found out from commissioner Roger Goodell a few hours before the game that he’ll be fully reinstated in Week 3. The former Atlanta Falcons (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/atl/;_ylt=AswaoyxHHLtc67IozFV.YWodsLYF) star was released from federal custody July 20 after serving 18 months of a 23-month sentence for his role in operating a dogfighting ring.
He’ll be eligible to play in Philadelphia’s game against Kansas City on Sept. 27.

Spartan
09-13-2009, 04:06 PM
McNabb broke some ribs. Update coming tomorrow.

Dubz
09-13-2009, 05:18 PM
McNabb broke some ribs. Update coming tomorrow.

Now I understand why that one guy has 4 starters in my one league:lol:

Spartan
09-13-2009, 09:53 PM
McNabb update

Eagles | McNabb out for Week 2
Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:40:36 -0700 Updating an ongoing story, Jay Glazer (http://www.kffl.com/link/14), of FOXSports.com (http://www.kffl.com/link/189), reports Philadelphia Eagles (http://www.kffl.com/team/29/nfl) QB Donovan McNabb (http://www.kffl.com/player/1475/nfl) (ribs) will be out for the team's Week 2 game. McNabb's status after Week 2 remains unclear.

two24four
09-14-2009, 05:11 PM
They signed Garcia today.

King_Killah
09-14-2009, 07:07 PM
They signed Garcia today.

That is funny... Somehow, I am not surprised by this though! Kolb is starting week 2 though.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
09-21-2009, 06:17 PM
So it looks like Westbrook got a booboo already? :whoa:

King_Killah
09-25-2009, 08:55 PM
So it looks like Westbrook got a booboo already? :whoa:

Word today on local sports radio is Westbrook looks like he isn't playing this week.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
09-27-2009, 02:21 PM
Hell yeah Westy is out and McCoy is in. Having a pretty solid day too! Glad I slated him in my W/R spot this week since Lewis is out w/injury. McCoy w/a td and 70+ all purpose to start the 4th quarter.

Dubz
12-13-2009, 10:18 PM
Do either of these teams know what fucking DEFENCE is? (moreso the Giants but still)

Kyle
12-13-2009, 10:54 PM
What a horrible defensive game. Giants march upfield for a great drive only for the defense to blow ass and let the Eagles respond with a 60 yard TD.

Doctego
12-13-2009, 11:55 PM
The Eagles have a really dynamic offense. The Giants made it easy for them tonight but they have been good all season.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
12-21-2009, 02:50 AM
Go Eagles Go

Kyle
12-21-2009, 03:24 AM
Jackson breaks 50+ yd touchdown record with his 9th today.

Doctego
12-24-2009, 09:05 AM
Big props to Michael Vick for winning the Ed Block Courage Award for the Eagles.:rolleyes:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d815341f9&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true


"It means a great deal to me," Vick said Wednesday. "I was voted unanimously by my teammates. They know what I've been through. I've been through a lot. It's been great to come back and have an opportunity to play and be with a great group of guys. I'm just ecstatic about that and I enjoy every day."

"I've overcome a lot, more than probably one single individual can handle or bear," Vick said. "You ask certain people to walk through my shoes, they probably couldn't do. Probably 95 percent of the people in this world because nobody had to endure what I've been through, situations I've been put in, situations I put myself in and decisions I have made, whether they have been good or bad.
I have been at the head of the line here in saying that he served the time so he paid for the crime. I am all for him being able to play in the NFL. That said, can you please STFU?? All of his bullshit was self-inflicted. There are winners of this award throughout the league that are paralyzed, organize worldwide charitable organizations, and the like. Those guys accepted this award more humbly than Vick. Kind of opens the door for Plaxico if he ever comes back.

Kyle
12-24-2009, 01:41 PM
Yeah, hes acting like someone held him at gunpoint and forced him to electrify dogs and let them bleed to death, and now hes comming out of the traumatizing experience. Vick, you gambled illegally and went to prison a bit for it. Probably went to a private prison (Yes these do exist for high prices) and lived luxeriously. No trauma. I'm glad you seem like you came out a better person, but how about you shut the fuck up and focus on the football now.

Hockeyis#1
12-26-2009, 10:00 PM
when someone is a bad person, and they stop being a bad person....you don't give them a medal. A congradulations perhaps. But if a pedophile stops being a pedophile, you don't give him a fucking gold star and an ice cream cone. You say 'congrats on not being a pedophile'


"I've overcome a lot, more than probably one single individual can handle or bear," Vick said. Completely forgetting about the Jews, or slavery are we??

Kyle
12-27-2009, 02:21 AM
lol, millions in jail/prison everywhere are going through way more than Vick's 1 pampered year.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
12-27-2009, 04:16 PM
Let's go Eagles!

eff1ngham
02-23-2010, 02:45 PM
Westbrook has been released:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-eagles-westbrook&prov=ap&type=lgns

Not a big surprise I guess

King_Killah
02-24-2010, 01:55 PM
No surprise at all. With McCoy able to brunt the load, Westbrook's injury riddled body is more of a liability than anything else. The thing I find interesting though is, would Philly have pulled that trigger if San Diego didn't fire the gun first letting Tomlinson go?

eff1ngham
03-05-2010, 03:28 PM
Sounds like they're thinking of trading McNabb (again), and Andy Reid is the only one fighting them on it. They would be in rough shape if McNabb was traded.....

Spartan
03-23-2010, 09:47 PM
Mike Bell is an Eagle. The Saints did not match the offer sheet.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
03-24-2010, 12:33 AM
McCoy is still expected to be the guy, right ?

Spartan
03-24-2010, 08:20 AM
McCoy is still expected to be the guy, right ?Sure, but running backs are hardly exclusive anymore.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
03-24-2010, 12:57 PM
Sure, but running backs are hardly exclusive anymore.

Very true.. what do we anticipate the splits being? 70/30 maybe ? How about on the goal line? ahhh Where's killa when I need him. :lol:

dw13
03-24-2010, 02:13 PM
Andy Reid's offense is never going to be turn around and hand the ball off a ton of times a game. I'd expect Bell to get alot of the obvious rushing downs, 3rd and shorts, and probably some goal lines mixed with Weaver / McCoy.

McCoy will still catch the ball a ton and rush the ball more than anyone on the team, IMO.

two24four
03-29-2010, 04:39 PM
McNabb could be a Raider very soon from the sounds of it.

Dubz
03-29-2010, 06:45 PM
McNabb could be a Raider very soon from the sounds of it.

Heard that on the radio on the way home...hmmm

Hockeyis#1
03-30-2010, 05:01 PM
Looks like the Eagles are shedding all their fan favs/core members of recent years. First Dawkins, then Westbrook, now McNabb. Are Akers days numbered now too?

eff1ngham
03-30-2010, 05:13 PM
McNabb was never a fan favorite in Philly

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
03-30-2010, 08:10 PM
McNabb was never a fan favorite in Philly

except when he was winning

dw13
03-30-2010, 08:14 PM
except when he was winning

Not even then.

eff1ngham
03-31-2010, 08:31 AM
Yup, he's basically meant nothing to that city. If/when he leaves practically no one will care

(btw, not trying to diss McNabb. There are people who are fans of his, he's just not a "fan favorite" in that city)

dw13
03-31-2010, 08:40 AM
Yup, he's basically meant nothing to that city. If/when he leaves practically no one will care

(btw, not trying to diss McNabb. There are people who are fans of his, he's just not a "fan favorite" in that city)

Sad part is, they'll probably raise hell when he gets traded.

Hockeyis#1
04-01-2010, 05:43 AM
Not saying McNabb was a fan favorite, especially with that bi-polar of a fan base. He's still a big part of that team's success over the years.

King_Killah
04-01-2010, 09:20 PM
McCoy is still expected to be the guy, right ?

McCoy will be the man next year... He will assume the Westbrook role.


Sure, but running backs are hardly exclusive anymore.

It will be just like when Philly had Westbrook healthy. McCoy will be the #1 and a good majority of the offense. Weaver/Bell will share duties.


Very true.. what do we anticipate the splits being? 70/30 maybe ? How about on the goal line? ahhh Where's killa when I need him. :lol:

That ratio is a good scenario. All the Philly area buzz right now that is not focused on McTerd, is about McCoy taking over the offense, regardless of whether McNabb is here or not.


McNabb could be a Raider very soon from the sounds of it.

McNabb could be an anything very soon from the sounds of it... Front runners are St. Louis still (even though the StL side has publicly downplaying it), Buffalo, and Carolina. Oakland hasn't offered to extend McNabb's contract from what we are hearing here so McNabb is refusing that deal.


Not saying McNabb was a fan favorite, especially with that bi-polar of a fan base. He's still a big part of that team's success over the years.

No he wasn't. Westbrook and the defense/Jim Johnson deserve all that credit. The only strong season McNabb had was the year that T.O. was in town. He was mediocre at best before and since.

Spartan
04-01-2010, 10:29 PM
No he wasn't. Westbrook and the defense/Jim Johnson deserve all that credit. The only strong season McNabb had was the year that T.O. was in town. He was mediocre at best before and since.Those five other Pro Bowls were a fluke.:rolleyes:

King_Killah
04-01-2010, 10:50 PM
Those five other Pro Bowls were a fluke.:rolleyes:

Pro Bowl :rolleyes:

King_Killah
04-01-2010, 10:53 PM
Seriously... The Pro Bowl as the meter on judging whether he was mediocre or above? He was a decent quarter back when he wasn't afraid to run. Once he became afraid to run, he got bad. All those passes 33 yards over the receiver's head or 20 yards short. The Pro Bowl!!!!!

Spartan
04-02-2010, 07:53 AM
Seriously... The Pro Bowl as the meter on judging whether he was mediocre or above? He was a decent quarter back when he wasn't afraid to run. Once he became afraid to run, he got bad. All those passes 33 yards over the receiver's head or 20 yards short. The Pro Bowl!!!!!I'm not going to regurgitate all his career stats, look them up yourself. He is a borderline hall of famer. The drawback on this guy is that he is a big game choker and has done so repeatedly. It also appears that he is a lousy teammate based on interviews he has done. Just crediting his career to a defensive coordinator and an oft injured running back is weak. He blew up throwing to TO, as did everyone else at that time in his career. He had a huge season in 08' as well and would have been a 4000 yd. passer had he not been injured last year. For the first five years of his career he had to run because there was literally no one to throw to.

King_Killah
04-02-2010, 08:10 AM
I'm not going to regurgitate all his career stats, look them up yourself. He is a borderline hall of famer. The drawback on this guy is that he is a big game choker and has done so repeatedly. It also appears that he is a lousy teammate based on interviews he has done. Just crediting his career to a defensive coordinator and an oft injured running back is weak. He blew up throwing to TO, as did everyone else at that time in his career. He had a huge season in 08' as well and would have been a 4000 yd. passer had he not been injured last year. For the first five years of his career he had to run because there was literally no one to throw to.

McNabb has been a piece of crap ever since Syracuse. He is one QB that I would never want on any team. He isn't that good. He isn't Hall worthy. Most of his career, Westbrook was healthy. Westbrook wore down because the Eagles needed him and relied on him to take 70%-80% of ALL the plays. That was due to lack of OFFENSE from the rest of the OFFENSIVE unit. His one good year was the TO year. I do agree that some of it isn't entirely his fault because the organization didn't surround him with guys who can make plays besides Westbrook and Chad Lewis. Perhaps if he had a receiver out there (during the non-TO years) something could have happened. But don't let that be an excuse... For years Tom Brady didn't have anyone either. Hell, they ran a three tight end offense because they didn't have receivers. And there is NO comparing McNabb to Brady. And what was that a first rounder vs. a sixth rounder?? I never bought into McNabb from Syracuse and he hasn't done anything to sell himself in the NFL. Personally, I think the Eagles should have went with Ricky Williams over him, but then the argument would have been Westbrook.

Doctego
04-02-2010, 08:43 AM
We can go back and forth on McNabb so I won't dispute anyone here. I will just give my thoughts. I have always felt that McNabb was a good but not great QB. Since many people call him great, I feel that he has been overrated. The McNabb vs. Kolb debate is interesting because I have no doubt that McNabb gives them a better chance to win right now. That said, what is his ceiling?? We would be hard pressed to think that his best years are ahead of him so we can only really look at his past. He has never been able to get them over the top. I see nothing to indicate that keeping him around will change that. Maybe Kolb can or maybe he can't. I just think that it's time to give someone else a chance because it is clear that keeping McNabb around for another handful of years will not result in a title.

dw13
04-02-2010, 09:08 AM
I'm baffled by the amount of people that don't think McNabb is anything. As for your question Doc, what is his ceiling? His ceiling is a Super-Bowl winning QB. He's had some tough times in big games, but so have many of all-time greats (not that Donovan is one of the greats).

A guy that consistently leads your team to the playoffs, division titles, and conference title games doesn't deserve to be given the hook because you have a backup QB that tore up the Kansas City Chiefs.

Any team would be lucky to have a QB like McNabb, franchise QB's do not grow on trees. He is a proven winner, a proven good guy and it just blows my mind that people can't atleast give him the respect he's earned.

KK, to say it's been all that defense and WESTBROOK, is unbelievable.

eff1ngham
04-02-2010, 09:09 AM
That said, what is his ceiling??

QB is one of the few positions that you can play well into your late 30s and still be at the top of your game. His ceiling is going to be as good as the team around him is. Give him some decent receivers and a solid running game and he'll give you close to 4000 yards and 25 TDs without a lot of INTs (if he plays all 16 games).


I see nothing to indicate that keeping him around will change that.

He's got three young, talented receivers in DeSean Jackson, Brent Celek and Jeremy Maclin, and a talented young RB in McCoy all coming back with another year of experience under their belts. To me it seems like they're in a position to do as well or better than they did last year. Do they have what it takes to beat the Saints or the Colts? Maybe (or maybe not), but IMO they're in a better position to try than with Kolb and Vick running the show

two24four
04-02-2010, 10:59 AM
If Favre would make up his mind (yet again) I'm sure Minny would trade for McNabb if Favre hangs them before the draft.

boredguy
04-02-2010, 12:48 PM
KK is a huge Mcnabb hater, you can point out how wrong he is and he'll never listen, i'm sure he thinks Vick is better, haha.

Doctego
04-02-2010, 01:51 PM
I'm baffled by the amount of people that don't think McNabb is anything. As for your question Doc, what is his ceiling? His ceiling is a Super-Bowl winning QB. He's had some tough times in big games, but so have many of all-time greats (not that Donovan is one of the greats).

A guy that consistently leads your team to the playoffs, division titles, and conference title games doesn't deserve to be given the hook because you have a backup QB that tore up the Kansas City Chiefs.

Any team would be lucky to have a QB like McNabb, franchise QB's do not grow on trees. He is a proven winner, a proven good guy and it just blows my mind that people can't atleast give him the respect he's earned.

KK, to say it's been all that defense and WESTBROOK, is unbelievable.

To you and eff, maybe I should have clarified but I was heading out the door. For the most part, I believe that McNabb had his opportunity. He consistently got his team to the edge but couldn't put them over the top. He had 11 seasons in Philly. He consistently got them to the playoffs but never won a title. Maybe Kolb can't as well but it's time for them to find out, IMHO. I am not saying that he is anything great. I am just saying that it's time to see what he has. If he isn't the guy, either, then they can find another franchise QB. McNabb had a solid run. I just think that it's time for a change.

King_Killah
04-02-2010, 06:51 PM
I'm baffled by the amount of people that don't think McNabb is anything. As for your question Doc, what is his ceiling? His ceiling is a Super-Bowl winning QB. He's had some tough times in big games, but so have many of all-time greats (not that Donovan is one of the greats).

A guy that consistently leads your team to the playoffs, division titles, and conference title games doesn't deserve to be given the hook because you have a backup QB that tore up the Kansas City Chiefs.

Any team would be lucky to have a QB like McNabb, franchise QB's do not grow on trees. He is a proven winner, a proven good guy and it just blows my mind that people can't atleast give him the respect he's earned.

KK, to say it's been all that defense and WESTBROOK, is unbelievable.

If the Eagles did NOT have Westbrook on this team, and the Eagles did NOT have the incredible defenses on this team... and I'll throw in McNabb's escape pod in Chad Lewis, this team would not have been as successful as they have been. All the credit seems to be shifting to McNabb and that is hardly the case. The defense kept this team in games, Westbrook was the one who made the plays.

Franchise QBs... Hahaha... Now, I am not saying that McNabb is better or worse than Kolb. I am not saying that McNabb is better or worse than Vick. But McNabb is certainly not a franchise QB. When you use the term franchise QB, you use it for names like Brady, Peyton Manning (who I am a HATER of moreso than McNabb), the Elways, the Montanas, the Marinos, the Kellys, the Favres.

McNabb is NOT a super bowl winning-caliber QB. He needs a cast to get it done. He isn't elite. He isn't even close. I don't put McNabb in the scrub list...I have him in the middle somewhere.

dw13
04-02-2010, 07:57 PM
If the Eagles did NOT have Westbrook on this team, and the Eagles did NOT have the incredible defenses on this team... and I'll throw in McNabb's escape pod in Chad Lewis, this team would not have been as successful as they have been. All the credit seems to be shifting to McNabb and that is hardly the case. The defense kept this team in games, Westbrook was the one who made the plays.

Franchise QBs... Hahaha... Now, I am not saying that McNabb is better or worse than Kolb. I am not saying that McNabb is better or worse than Vick. But McNabb is certainly not a franchise QB. When you use the term franchise QB, you use it for names like Brady, Peyton Manning (who I am a HATER of moreso than McNabb), the Elways, the Montanas, the Marinos, the Kellys, the Favres.

McNabb is NOT a super bowl winning-caliber QB. He needs a cast to get it done. He isn't elite. He isn't even close. I don't put McNabb in the scrub list...I have him in the middle somewhere.

Maybe that's what you refer to a Franchise QB as, but a Franchise QB is someone who has been the face of the team for the past decade. Someone who has continually led his team to the playoffs, division titles and NFC title games.

You're a blatant McNabb hater, therefore I'll go back into my shell and leave this conversation alone.

Doctego
04-02-2010, 10:03 PM
dawinna.......Do you really fault the Eagles for wanting to move on?? McNabb has been solid but they have had 11 seasons together with no titles. His fault or not, I don't see how you can blame them for wanting to make a change, even if it is 1 step back in the beginning.

dw13
04-02-2010, 10:35 PM
dawinna.......Do you really fault the Eagles for wanting to move on?? McNabb has been solid but they have had 11 seasons together with no titles. His fault or not, I don't see how you can blame them for wanting to make a change, even if it is 1 step back in the beginning.

No, I don't fault them at all. I do see what they are doing, but I'm not sure I agree with it.

My point is, McNabb really is a very good QB that has done very good things.

Not many teams are lucky enough to have Kevin Kolb backing their QB up. I like Kolb alot, and I didn't want to mention that in thread while backing McNabb.

dw13
04-04-2010, 07:19 PM
McNabb to the Skins.

Traded him in the division?

boredguy
04-04-2010, 07:42 PM
For only a 2nd this season and a 3rd or 4th next season i'm pretty shocked they traded him to the Skins.

eff1ngham
04-04-2010, 08:03 PM
Traded him in the division?

That's the most shocking part IMO. I figure the last thing Philly would want is for McNabb to have a chance to bite them in the ass twice a year

King_Killah
04-04-2010, 09:31 PM
McNabb to the Skins.

Traded him in the division?

This is the biggest shocker of all.....

chicagohockey
04-04-2010, 09:44 PM
Who's starting in Philly now? Kolb or they expected to draft a starting QB? Bradford and Clausen should be gone long before they draft.

dw13
04-04-2010, 09:53 PM
Who's starting in Philly now? Kolb or they expected to draft a starting QB? Bradford and Clausen should be gone long before they draft.

Not a football guy are ya? :lol::beer:

This trade was to clear way for Kolb.

King_Killah
04-04-2010, 09:54 PM
Who's starting in Philly now? Kolb or they expected to draft a starting QB? Bradford and Clausen should be gone long before they draft.

It is assumed Kolb is the #1, but Kolb and Vick will battle it out, unless Vick gets moved, too, which at the point now seems unlikely. Although, I am hearing Carolina is sending offers cause Matt Moore and Hunter Cantwell...well...

King_Killah
04-04-2010, 10:10 PM
After being told last month that the Eagles would not deal him to NFC East-rival Washington, McNabb essentially forced Philadelphia’s hand by refusing to talk with any of the other teams that had expressed interest in recent weeks. In the process, McNabb can now take out his simmering anger on the Eagles’ front office that essentially forced him out of a city where he had played his entire career.

I suppose if the team was talking about moving McNabb and McNabb could influence where he goes, why not go to a division rival??

King_Killah
04-22-2010, 07:52 PM
Eagles move up.

King_Killah
04-22-2010, 07:57 PM
BRANDON GRAHAM............................. SON OF A BITCH.................... I wanted him in Atlanta. EVERYONE was thinking Earl Thomas. Holy shit... Moving up to snag Graham. GREAT PICK.

dw13
04-22-2010, 07:58 PM
BRANDON GRAHAM............................. SON OF A BITCH.................... I wanted him in Atlanta. EVERYONE was thinking Earl Thomas. Holy shit... Moving up to snag Graham. GREAT PICK.

Ha. We disagree again.

Poor pick Philly. Thomas was easily the selection.

King_Killah
04-22-2010, 08:02 PM
Ha. We disagree again.

Poor pick Philly. Thomas was easily the selection.

Thomas will be there at 24. Philly takes him there.

FlyGuy78
04-22-2010, 08:02 PM
King Killah = DEAD WRONG!

Dawinna = DEAD RIGHT!!

Worst pick of the draft so far! King you only like this pick cause he's from Michigan. He wasn't even the top 2 DE left on the board. They should of went with Morgan or Pierre-Paul if they were going to take a DE. Hahahaha....Eagles looking like the Raiders!!

dw13
04-22-2010, 08:04 PM
I do like Graham over JPP, but I still think it was a reach. They need and could use Thomas much more.

If he's there at 24, then they made the right choice.

dw13
04-22-2010, 08:05 PM
Confirmed: They duffed their pick. It should been Thomas. He goes the next pick.

FlyGuy78
04-22-2010, 08:06 PM
Thomas will be there at 24. Philly takes him there.

Again you are wrong! WoW King, today is not your day! :D

King_Killah
04-22-2010, 08:10 PM
Philadelphia... jerks! Yeah I like Graham. And not just because he played at Michigan. He is a great pass rusher and would have immediately stepped in and played and helped the Falcons this year. He will help Philly, and all the dudes (Kiper, Berman, etc.) were saying how he's a Philly type of player, except how often does Philly start rookies???

Spartan
04-22-2010, 11:19 PM
I hate Michigan but know that Philly got a stud in Graham. He is a baller.

King_Killah
04-23-2010, 05:30 PM
The McNabb pick. That is ridiculous that they are dubbing this pick the Donovan McNabb pick. Seriously??!!

King_Killah
04-23-2010, 05:34 PM
Nate Allen, DB. Safety to replace Dawkins???? I like him back there, but I don't think he is Dawkins replacement. Doesn't scare anyone.

King_Killah
04-23-2010, 06:46 PM
Traded to cowboys!

King_Killah
04-23-2010, 07:08 PM
Traded to Browns.........and on this note, I gotta run out. I'll be back on later for comments and stuff.

dw13
06-26-2010, 11:17 AM
Throw Vick back in jail for being a moron.

dw13
06-30-2010, 12:12 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5342532

Throw him back in the slammer

Hockeyis#1
07-09-2010, 03:20 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5342532

Throw him back in the slammerFor what? From everything I've read so far, he's cooperated fully with police, left before the shooting took place, and had no interaction with the victim of the shooting that night.

So far, it sounds like a person he knew at a place he'd just left got shot. That makes him guilty of what? Witch hunt imo

dw13
07-09-2010, 09:03 AM
For what? From everything I've read so far, he's cooperated fully with police, left before the shooting took place, and had no interaction with the victim of the shooting that night.

So far, it sounds like a person he knew at a place he'd just left got shot. That makes him guilty of what? Witch hunt imo

For being an idiot. He just spent two years in prison mostly for being around stupid people that he called friends. So what does he do? He has a huge party for his birthday? He's a grown man, why does he need to throw a party?

He was in a dispute 5 minutes before the shooting. The police said what he told them wasn't even completely true. Where there is smoke, theres fire. He's one of the stupidest guys on earth for even putting himself in this situation.

Hockeyis#1
07-12-2010, 07:00 AM
For being an idiot. He just spent two years in prison mostly for being around stupid people that he called friends. So what does he do? He has a huge party for his birthday? He's a grown man, why does he need to throw a party?

He was in a dispute 5 minutes before the shooting. The police said what he told them wasn't even completely true. Where there is smoke, theres fire. He's one of the stupidest guys on earth for even putting himself in this situation.
You're blaming him for throwing a birthday party? :rolleyes:

He got into a dispute....then LEFT. I'd take that as a sign of maturity that he knew to leave before things escalated. Assuming he wasn't involved in the shooting, I'd say that was a good read by him.

All the reports I've read have said he's been completely cooperative with police.

It sounds to me like you (like many) dislike Vick and are turning something like this into a witch hunt. Until he's suspected of wrong doing, so far all I see is that he threw a party, got into a dispute, and left. Nothing wrong with that.

FlyGuy78
07-12-2010, 07:15 AM
You're blaming him for throwing a birthday party? :rolleyes:

He got into a dispute....then LEFT. I'd take that as a sign of maturity that he knew to leave before things escalated. Assuming he wasn't involved in the shooting, I'd say that was a good read by him.

All the reports I've read have said he's been completely cooperative with police.

It sounds to me like you (like many) dislike Vick and are turning something like this into a witch hunt. Until he's suspected of wrong doing, so far all I see is that he threw a party, got into a dispute, and left. Nothing wrong with that.

Except add in the fact that he was hanging out with people he is NOT allowed to hang out with. And I also don't believe that it was a coincidence that he left "3-5 minutes' before the shooting occurred.

dw13
07-12-2010, 08:51 AM
You're blaming him for throwing a birthday party? :rolleyes:

He got into a dispute....then LEFT. I'd take that as a sign of maturity that he knew to leave before things escalated. Assuming he wasn't involved in the shooting, I'd say that was a good read by him.

All the reports I've read have said he's been completely cooperative with police.

It sounds to me like you (like many) dislike Vick and are turning something like this into a witch hunt. Until he's suspected of wrong doing, so far all I see is that he threw a party, got into a dispute, and left. Nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, I'm blaming him (a man on parole, just served two years) for throwing a Birthday party which he obviously had no control over.

You obviously didn't read the link I gave you, because the police said their story differs from the one that Vick gave them.

If it was me or you, we would be back in jail for a parole violation. It's clear it says NO CONTACT with Quantis Phillips. Like I said before, where there is smoke, there's fire. If you think its a coincidence that he left a couple minutes before the shooting, then I don't know what to say.

Oh, and the dumbass went and threw another party on July 4th, just days after the birthday party incident.

He isn't allowed to leave the state, I'm hoping they are going to nab him on a parole violation. He deserves it. A guy who has been through what he went through, and then declares himself a new man does NOT put himself in the position he did.

Hockeyis#1
07-13-2010, 06:36 AM
There story differs by when Vick left, from what I read. The police don't consider him a suspect, or anything else at this point. Although they have said that he's cooperated fully, unlike just about everyone else.

The party was also open to the public, you pay $30, you got in. It's been said that Vick and Phillips were not seen together at any point.

You clearly biased here, dw.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
09-13-2010, 12:44 AM
QB controversy?

Vick sure handled himself well out there today. . .

Motorcat
09-13-2010, 07:49 AM
I was watching and pulling for the Eagles till Vick came in - turned it off,went outside and fixed a string trimmer that has been in storage for months.

Wonder if I am the only one who still feels strongly about Vick .......... judging from the lack of media I am guessing so.

King_Killah
09-20-2010, 09:20 PM
Although Reid is saying Kolb is starting week 3, if he doesn't come out firing, expect Vick to get the starts. He was on in week 2. Dislike him off the field all you want, he still has skills on the field.

phaneuf6
09-20-2010, 09:37 PM
I was watching and pulling for the Eagles till Vick came in - turned it off,went outside and fixed a string trimmer that has been in storage for months.

Wonder if I am the only one who still feels strongly about Vick .......... judging from the lack of media I am guessing so.

Why do you feel so strongly?

Vick should be getting the start next week based on his performance thus far.

dw13
09-20-2010, 09:50 PM
Although Reid is saying Kolb is starting week 3, if he doesn't come out firing, expect Vick to get the starts. He was on in week 2. Dislike him off the field all you want, he still has skills on the field.

I disagree. Not because Vick hasn't earned it but because Kolb is Reid's guy. Kolb needs a run of 2 or 3 bad, bad games before they do that.

Spartan
09-20-2010, 10:00 PM
It was the Lions. Two dropped interceptions, took five sacks and fumbled twice.

Put him up against an average or better NFL defense and he is the same turnover machine that we all remember.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
09-21-2010, 02:53 AM
Absolutely agreed that Vick looked better than he should of against a suspect Lions D but I am also firm on the fact that Vick looked better than Kolb would have against a suspect Lions D.

Not quite sold on Kevin just yet. Not sure I ever will be.

I love what the mere threat of Vick behind center does for guys like McCoy and Jackson.

I think if you want a chance to win here and now... you start Michael Vick.

Just my 2 cents.

b_illin
09-21-2010, 08:18 AM
I disagree. Not because Vick hasn't earned it but because Kolb is Reid's guy. Kolb needs a run of 2 or 3 bad, bad games before they do that.

I don't think being 'Reid's guy' is going to keep the rabid fans at bay this time around...Reid doesn't have the support he once did.

two24four
09-21-2010, 05:24 PM
Reid said today that Vick is the starting QB now.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
09-22-2010, 01:12 AM
things sure change fast in the NFL

two24four
09-22-2010, 10:33 AM
things sure change fast in the NFL

That's for sure, now when Philly meats Washington it will be Vick vs McNabb not Kolb vs McNabb.

dw13
09-22-2010, 11:12 AM
Shocked that Reid actually made the move.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
09-22-2010, 10:29 PM
http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nfl_experts__26/ept_sports_nfl_experts-695946753-1285162747.jpg?ym8r5zDDSFCghzZn

Subtle...

boredguy
11-07-2010, 06:13 PM
That was a scary hit on Collie but what a fucking awful call on it.

Doctego
11-07-2010, 07:18 PM
That was a scary hit on Collie but what a fucking awful call on it.

Agreed.

Contusion
11-15-2010, 09:17 PM
Vick vs. McNabb
Eagles 28-0 in the first quarter. Let the blood keep flowing!

Hamsterkill
11-15-2010, 09:22 PM
All well and good that the Eagles are scoring, but I could use a few field goals for my fantasy team. Not every drive needs to be a touchdown, Vick.

two24four
11-15-2010, 10:28 PM
Welcome to the Vick show.

At half time Vick is 14-18, 264 Yds, 3 TD's 0 INT, 158.3 rating.

6 rush, 66 Yds, 11.0 Avg, 2 TD's.

He's so fun to watch.

dw13
11-15-2010, 10:51 PM
Welcome to the Vick show.

At half time Vick is 14-18, 264 Yds, 3 TD's 0 INT, 158.3 rating.

6 rush, 66 Yds, 11.0 Avg, 2 TD's.

He's so fun to watch.

Especially when he's playing this shit of a defense:lol:

Dubz
11-15-2010, 11:11 PM
I had a 50 pt lead and its about 2 now with a quarter left to play. Bench that bastard!!!

Hamsterkill
11-15-2010, 11:22 PM
Come on, one more 40+ yard field goal.... I need 4 more pts, Akers!

two24four
11-16-2010, 01:28 AM
I think we know who's getting player of the week this week on offence.

Kyle
11-16-2010, 03:26 AM
The league leading QB rating just padded his lead with a 150.7 perfomance:lol:

Rushing yards included, Vick produed over 400 yards and six TDs. Absolutely unreal.

habsfan1
11-16-2010, 09:56 AM
49 ponts for my fantasy team, thank you Michael Vick, plus another 15 from DeSean Jackson.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
11-16-2010, 02:25 PM
I am really not a fan of Michael Vick and in a sense I hate to see him succeed but it's hard to argue his unique abilities as a QB on a good team.

Doctego
11-17-2010, 01:06 AM
Great week and he is certainly on his way turning his career around but can ESPN and the like please knock off the MVP talk?? He has attempted exactly 50% of their passes to date. Talk to me after at least 12 games.

Kyle
11-17-2010, 02:12 AM
Agreed, hes playing MVP calibur football but it doesn't cut it if you don't play enough games. Quite frankly, unless he goes nearly undefeated and puts up unreal numbers to finish the last 7 games of the season, he should never be considered.

Hockeyis#1
11-17-2010, 11:50 AM
When Vick was first signed, people HATED the signing. He was accepted with a mixed reception at best, and a lot of people were against him being on the team.

Don't see much of that, if any at all now amongst the Philly faithful.

Amazing how leading the team to victories can change one's moral outlook.....

Kyle
11-17-2010, 11:53 PM
When Vick was first signed, people HATED the signing. He was accepted with a mixed reception at best, and a lot of people were against him being on the team.

Don't see much of that, if any at all now amongst the Philly faithful.

Amazing how leading the team to victories can change one's moral outlook.....

Was it really a moral issue? He wasn't much of a winner in the NFL and clearly couldn't have been in his best shape. And he was a magnet for bad press and drama. I'd say those 3 factors were more significant than the moral issue, the moral issue is just what people shouted about to make their dumbasses feel a bit better.

Hockeyis#1
11-18-2010, 02:44 PM
They viewed him and supporting him as immoral (or whatever you want to call it) because of his dog fighting. Now, everyone seems to be on his side and what's past is past.....

dw13
11-18-2010, 02:57 PM
They viewed him and supporting him as immoral (or whatever you want to call it) because of his dog fighting. Now, everyone seems to be on his side and what's past is past.....

Which I find even more comical considering it wasn't long ago that the shooting at his Birthday party went down. Like I said before with that incident, where there's smoke there's fire.

I still hope Vick gets his leg snapped in half everytime he steps onto the field.

phaneuf6
11-18-2010, 07:54 PM
I don't understand the hate towards Michael Vick. He had some dog fights, who the fuck cares. It's a dog. There are guys in the league who have done much worse and don't get any of the hate that Michael Vick does.

Kyle
11-18-2010, 08:04 PM
I don't understand the hate towards Michael Vick. He had some dog fights, who the fuck cares. It's a dog. There are guys in the league who have done much worse and don't get any of the hate that Michael Vick does.

Senseless moral trips. Vicks earned his forgiveness at this point, not that he ever owed us that.

Doctego
11-18-2010, 09:02 PM
I don't understand the hate towards Michael Vick. He had some dog fights, who the fuck cares. It's a dog. There are guys in the league who have done much worse and don't get any of the hate that Michael Vick does.

Either you have never had a dog (or a pet) or you are just heartless. Maybe both. I get the whole "it's just a dog argument". Dog vs. person and the person wins out. If you just want to look at it like that, so be it. You could also look at it by seeing that people can defend themselves. Dogs really can't. It also wasn't a 1 time deal. Over an extended period of time, he tortured defenseless animals and then lied about it.

I really hate the argument that, since there are others that did worse, it isn't a big deal. 1 has nothing to do with the other.

Now, before I get labeled as anti-Vick, I am actually the opposite. I feel that he has served his time and deserves the opportunity to play in the NFL again.

dw13
11-18-2010, 09:27 PM
I don't understand the hate towards Michael Vick. He had some dog fights, who the fuck cares. It's a dog. There are guys in the league who have done much worse and don't get any of the hate that Michael Vick does.

Not only did he train, fight and kill dogs that didn't deserve to be put through what they were put through, he would torture the losing dogs or dogs who didn't "perform" up to their standards.

Then, on his bail release, he was busted for failing a drug test which was clearly laid out in his bail released rules.

I haven't been given any proof from Mike Vick to make me think he's actually sorry for the disgusting things he did to those animals. He was sorry he got busted. That's why he lied about it when everything first started coming out and then he fessed up to it and limited his jail time.

Who cares who has done worse things then Mike Vick. What he did was disgusting and his prison time was justified.


Senseless moral trips. Vicks earned his forgiveness at this point, not that he ever owed us that.

Vick deserved to continue his career post-jail time. I'll never argue against that. It's his career, it's how he makes his living and supports himself and his family but that doesn't mean after he served his time everyone should, or has to forgive him for what he did.

I'll never be a fan of Vick.

Kyle
11-18-2010, 09:35 PM
It's his career, it's how he makes his living and supports himself and his family


Yet you still want to see his foot snapped every time he steps onto the field. ;)

dw13
11-18-2010, 09:38 PM
Yet you still want to see his foot snapped every time he steps onto the field. ;)

He'd still make the money remaining on his contract though. :lol:

Kyle
11-18-2010, 09:46 PM
:lol:

Hockeyis#1
11-19-2010, 01:07 AM
I'm actually in partial agreement with Doc.

What Vick DID was clearly wrong.
He paid his debt to society and is rightfully free to pursue an NFL career
He was one of my favorite players pre-jail. He still is now....despite being an Eagle.

heliosj
11-19-2010, 06:14 AM
I'm actually in partial agreement with Doc.

What Vick DID was clearly wrong.
He paid his debt to society and is rightfully free to pursue an NFL careerHave to agree with you.. I'm one of the sappiest dog lovers in the world, but I'm over the Vick hatred. I'll never like the guy (especially being an Eagle), but he should be able to earn a living without constant ridicule and disdain. He did his time, it's over.. barring any further incidents, whatever. It's over. Can we just focus on his efforts on the field and stop dwelling on what he did years ago?

phaneuf6
11-19-2010, 11:04 AM
Sure what he did was wrong, but 2 years in prison and you're STILL hating on him? Who cares if he feels sorry, he served a ridiculous amount of time for the crime committed.

Donte Stallworth killed a man while drunk driving and he gets 30 days. And you don't hear anything about him. Ray Lewis stabbed and kill somebody, gets a year probation, a $250,000 fine, and that's it. I don't see much hatred for Lewis.

Unless its a dislike for Vick as an Eagle, or as an ex-Falcon, I just don't see where you can justify hating him.

Kyle
11-19-2010, 11:06 AM
I just don't see where you can justify hating him.




Senseless moral trips.


;);)

dw13
11-19-2010, 11:36 AM
Sure what he did was wrong, but 2 years in prison and you're STILL hating on him? Who cares if he feels sorry, he served a ridiculous amount of time for the crime committed.

Donte Stallworth killed a man while drunk driving and he gets 30 days. And you don't hear anything about him. Ray Lewis stabbed and kill somebody, gets a year probation, a $250,000 fine, and that's it. I don't see much hatred for Lewis.

Unless its a dislike for Vick as an Eagle, or as an ex-Falcon, I just don't see where you can justify hating him.

I'm not a fan of Ray Lewis but even right now, years after his whole ridiculous incident (which I still call him a murderer to this day) he has done numerous things to try to repaint the Ray Lewis image as a good guy, and it's worked. He does some great charity work and helps in his community among other things.

Vick, for me, still has to earn back some trust and respect. He lied until he was busted, he clearly didn't understand the type of trouble he was in because he failed a drug test while released on bond and even just a few months ago, a person the court ordered Mike Vick to STAY AWAY from randomly pops up at his birthday party and is shot? Where there's smoke, there's fire, I have no doubt in my mind somehow Mike Vick was involved in something that night.

Again, this is in my eyes, you can think differently and I don't see how anyone can sit there and call it a senseless moral trip. Sure, he served his time and that in itself allows him the right to continue his NFL career, but it doesn't instantly gain his respect and trust back from people.

two24four
11-19-2010, 01:38 PM
Have to agree with you.. I'm one of the sappiest dog lovers in the world, but I'm over the Vick hatred. I'll never like the guy (especially being an Eagle), but he should be able to earn a living without constant ridicule and disdain. He did his time, it's over.. barring any further incidents, whatever. It's over. Can we just focus on his efforts on the field and stop dwelling on what he did years ago?

Good post, I agree 100%.

I have been finding myself looking to see when Philly plays most weeks so I can watch Vick play.

What Vick did Monday night was unreal, one of those sports games years down the road you will still remember it like it was yesterday.

Kyle
11-19-2010, 02:23 PM
and I don't see how anyone can sit there and call it a senseless moral trip.


Because thats exactly what it is and your outrageous attempts to justify Lewis' murder over Vick's dog fighting is perfect proof of that. Vicks good gestures in your eyes are just him doing what he has to do to lessen the severity of his situation. Yet Lewis is a saint for doing charity work, helping his community. He can't possibly be doing the same thing, just doing things here and there to boost his public image. Come on man, thats some irrational, double standard bullshit. You're just one of the few who haven't jumped off the hype train yet. Its indisputable that there are dozens of more morally questionable players in the league who have done worse (and paid less) yet Vick is the only NFL player you've ever expressed this much sheer bitterness towards. That is senseless.

Vick has done less than many others in the league and paid a significantly higher price. No one is disagreeing with you for not respecting or liking the guy, its the fact that you're still so hung up about what he did in the past that you carry around this bitterness towards him that is just sad. Indifference and hatred are two different worlds. Its ok if you're not fully supportive of him like me and many others who feel like hes come a remarkably long way, but to still carry around that lingering hatred really is just sad. Its reasonable to say he still needs to earn more trust and respect back in your eyes, its not reasonable to take it farther and project the idea that hes some shitty human being, make SENSELESS (amazing how much this word comes to mind here) assumptions about his potential involvement with that birthday shooting, and trying to bring up something he did before he ever even began his prison sentence (The drug test) to prove he isn't a better person AFTERWARDS.

You're being totally senseless Daw, there is no justification for hating Vick as much as you do. You choose to pass on all the love and support, thats totally understandable, but going any farther than that is just stupid. Move on and go find one of the 50 bigger assholes in the league and hate them a bit.

dw13
11-19-2010, 03:21 PM
Because thats exactly what it is and your outrageous attempts to justify Lewis' murder over Vick's dog fighting is perfect proof of that. Vicks good gestures in your eyes are just him doing what he has to do to lessen the severity of his situation. Yet Lewis is a saint for doing charity work, helping his community. He can't possibly be doing the same thing, just doing things here and there to boost his public image. Come on man, thats some irrational, double standard bullshit. You're just one of the few who haven't jumped off the hype train yet. Its indisputable that there are dozens of more morally questionable players in the league who have done worse (and paid less) yet Vick is the only NFL player you've ever expressed this much sheer bitterness towards. That is senseless.

Vick has done less than many others in the league and paid a significantly higher price. No one is disagreeing with you for not respecting or liking the guy, its the fact that you're still so hung up about what he did in the past that you carry around this bitterness towards him that is just sad. Indifference and hatred are two different worlds. Its ok if you're not fully supportive of him like me and many others who feel like hes come a remarkably long way, but to still carry around that lingering hatred really is just sad. Its reasonable to say he still needs to earn more trust and respect back in your eyes, its not reasonable to take it farther and project the idea that hes some shitty human being, make SENSELESS (amazing how much this word comes to mind here) assumptions about his potential involvement with that birthday shooting, and trying to bring up something he did before he ever even began his prison sentence (The drug test) to prove he isn't a better person AFTERWARDS.

You're being totally senseless Daw, there is no justification for hating Vick as much as you do. You choose to pass on all the love and support, thats totally understandable, but going any farther than that is just stupid. Move on and go find one of the 50 bigger assholes in the league and hate them a bit.

I don't go out of my way to hate on Vick, the only reason I've been responding on this board is because it's come up. I also have not made Ray Lewis look like a saint, I really dislike the guy as well but my point was he has worked his ass off to try to clean his plate of the things he has done and I've yet to see anything near that from Mike Vick. Ray Lewis was never convicted of murder, he was convicted of obstruction of justice. Obviously there was a fuck load more to his story, but my point is he has done EVERYTHING in his power to clear his name since that day.

I know Vick has started to do a little bit of charitable work and things to start to right his wrongs which is awesome and maybe in a few years I'll look at him in the same light as look at Lewis as. Someone who made a glaring mistake but has worked his ass off to do anything he can to help right his wrongs.

I don't think it's worth saying 'so and so has done worse so why not hate on him' because this is just a single case, we aren't talking about the 1000 other punks in the league.

So maybe in 2 years time we can pick this conversation up and I'll come back and say "Yeah, Vick really has turned his life around" but I refuse to do that right now because he started winning some football games, THAT IS IT. When he was on the bench to start the season and was just in camp with the Eagles no one was talking about Mike Vick's revolution as a person, only when he started winning and doing good things on the field did this shit start coming up.

It's not a senseless moral trip for me to still dislike Mike Vick. I don't call anyone an idiot or a trip for liking Vick, everyone has their own opinions of the man.

I'll leave it at that. This topic obviously is something that'll never be settled at someone being right or wrong.:beer:

Kyle
11-19-2010, 03:30 PM
Thats cool, but I'll repeat its not so much disliking him as much as hating the guy. You really have no just cause to hate him which is what your snapped leg comment tends to imply. But yeah, no sense in trying to prove anybody correct or incorrect here. I'm a Vick supporter and will hope this year is the norm for the rest of his career. I'd love to see him bring Philly a SB.

dw13
11-19-2010, 03:36 PM
I'd never use the word hate with Vick. I don't care enough to hate the man, honestly. I wasn't serious with the leg breaking... only if it was the game before the Superbowl against the Jets. :D. I do dislike him but he's electrifying on the field and I definitely can't deny that. I just feel that's how he's won peoples hearts back so easily. Just like when people discussed Tiger Woods, all they say he had to do was start winning and everyone would give up on the other crap.

Doctego
11-19-2010, 06:00 PM
I never liked Vick as a QB in the past and hated what he did to those dogs but I think that he has done enough. I think that, in this case, some people don't want to see what good Vick has done since he did time. I don't stalk him or anything but, every time I see him in front of a microphone, he is expressing remorse. He has spoken to charities, groups, schools, etc. and, each time, it seems that he is remorseful. It was mentioned that Ray Lewis has done things to repair his image. I haven't seen 1 thing but I also haven't been looking for anything.

It's funny that Tiger Woods was brought up. I disagree about the "just win" part because golf is an individual sport but it does help. Tiger is a case study for how not to apologize, IMHO. While his infractions were nothing like Vick's, all that I have seen Tiger do is read a speech that someone wrote for him.

canuckthug
12-19-2010, 04:30 PM
wow. Eagles/Giants game was crazy...very nice comeback for Philly. Eagles D was impressive in the 2nd half and they made a well executed on-side kick but Vick is too good. MVP chants will not being going away anytime soon... too bad he missed a few games.

Contusion
12-19-2010, 04:45 PM
Absolutely nutty 4th quarter. I normally would have shut the game down after a team is down by 3 TDs, but with Vick this year...

This was one for the books, yet not rare between these two teams who usually get a wacky ending from one side or the other. This clearly ruined a lot of Sunday afternoons for Giants fans. That is *not* the way you want a game to end. Ouch ouch ouch.

King_Killah
12-21-2010, 05:44 PM
Now I haven't gone back in the thread and read posts other than the few that are on this page...... I just have to comment on Vick. And this is more a general comment based on being in the area. Vick went from "he sucks" to "overrated" to "not a good QB" and every other comparible comment that there is when he was with the Falcons. Then the whole off-field issue. He comes back to the NFL as a number 3 - BEHIND McNabb and Kolb and BACK-UP to Kolb. Everyone still on the anti-Vick wagon. All of the sudden, he makes some plays. And the Giants game this past weekend just about put him at the level where he is going to have a statue sitting next to Rocky or something. I love how all the haters all of the sudden are on his meat and potatoes. Leading the Pro Bowl votes. Has his name in the discussion for MVP with everyone calling into Philly sports radio lobbying for him to get MVP. A lot of national sports radio are leaning the same way too. Not once have I ever doubted his on-field capability and quite honestly I am pretty happy that he is getting the recognition that he deserves. No way does it forgive what he has done off-field, but one shouldn't combine off-field and on-field activities. Hate him all day long off-field, don't deny his game on-field. For years people in this area have been swallowing McNabb's nut the whole time I have been shitting on him. He sucked in Syracuse, he sucked in Philly (only good season was the TO year), and he sucks in Washington. People are criticizing Shanahan for realizing what I knew so long ago and what took Andy Reid years to figure out. They should have went with Ricky Williams back then, a belief I still stand by. All the same people who hated Vick that are now praising him are the same people who loved McNabb and are now shitting on him. Interesting!

two24four
12-24-2010, 04:46 PM
Vick was asked today who he thinks should be the NFL MVP, he said 'myself' :lol:

dw13
12-24-2010, 04:53 PM
Vick was asked today who he thinks should be the NFL MVP, he said 'myself' :lol:

Sums him up.

Brady, Manning, Brees, etc. would never say anything of the sort. They'd give all the credit to their teammates everytime they were/are asked that question.

phaneuf6
12-24-2010, 06:50 PM
Sums him up.

Brady, Manning, Brees, etc. would never say anything of the sort. They'd give all the credit to their teammates everytime they were/are asked that question.

Or he just believes in his abilities and is confident enough to say it. You can spin this both ways.

dw13
12-24-2010, 06:56 PM
Or he just believes in his abilities and is confident enough to say it. You can spin this both ways.

True but do you actually believe that Vick is more confident then Brady and Manning in their abilities? I saw the interview now and the context of the question/answer and it's clear that Vick was messing around, so it's all good now. I thought the question/answer was "Who do you like for the interview" Vick: "Myself." End of.

Kyle
12-24-2010, 07:35 PM
True but do you actually believe that Vick is more confident then Brady and Manning in their abilities? I saw the interview now and the context of the question/answer and it's clear that Vick was messing around, so it's all good now. I thought the question/answer was "Who do you like for the interview" Vick: "Myself." End of.

Thats what I assumed when I read 24's post. It didn't sound like something he, or any QB in the NFL for that matter, would say. Not the way it was implied at least.

two24four
12-24-2010, 07:38 PM
For the record, I did not see the video, I read it online.

b_illin
12-25-2010, 12:08 PM
Sums him up.

Brady, Manning, Brees, etc. would never say anything of the sort. They'd give all the credit to their teammates everytime they were/are asked that question.
They'd never ask those guys in his defense

dw13
12-25-2010, 12:12 PM
They'd never ask those guys in his defense

They'd never ask them who they thought was the MVP? :lol: I think I just heard Brady asked the same exact question last week on the radio.

two24four
12-26-2010, 12:34 PM
MIN vs PHI game moved to Tuesday night at 8pm because of weather.

Doctego
12-26-2010, 12:38 PM
MIN vs PHI game moved to Tuesday night at 8pm because of weather.

I don't mind because we get an extra day of football but it seems weird that a football game is postponed because of snow.

b_illin
12-26-2010, 01:22 PM
Wow, that will leave many fantasy championships unresolved til Friday morning!! (edit: Wednesday morning)

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
12-26-2010, 03:21 PM
dang yeah. I'm only fighting for 3rd place thanks to some major roster fuck ups last weekend but I got McCoy and Celek in my lineup this week. Extra night of football is cool though.

eff1ngham
12-26-2010, 08:33 PM
I don't mind because we get an extra day of football but it seems weird that a football game is postponed because of snow.

I guess it's because of fan safety, something about not being able to keep the parking lot or roads clear for fans to get out tonight. Not really sure, but that's what they were saying on ESPN earlier today.

It kinda fucks the Eagles over though, there's a chance they could have to play 3 games in 12 days I think. Andy Reid is a good coach and I think he'll get them ready if it happens, but it's an odd move by the NFL

heliosj
12-26-2010, 10:42 PM
The absolute pussification of America. If road safety was that big of a concern, close the game to the public. But we play football in the snow, end of discussion.

FlyGuy78
12-27-2010, 08:00 AM
The absolute pussification of America. If road safety was that big of a concern, close the game to the public. But we play football in the snow, end of discussion.

Jeff you do realize that the NFL is a business right? No customers means shop is closed. I think the NFL did the right thing. This wasn't just a snow storm, we got covered by 1-2 feet of snow.

Doctego
12-27-2010, 08:32 AM
The absolute pussification of America. If road safety was that big of a concern, close the game to the public. But we play football in the snow, end of discussion.

I get what you're saying and it would lend itself to the "do you remember the 12 people in the stands for that game" mentality but I get why they did it. It was a safety risk getting the players and workers into and out of the stadium as well. The main reason is obviously what Fly mentioned. An empty stadium is a shitload of lost revenue that isn't easily forfeited. You can call it pussification and there is certainly some truth to that but I think that it is more along the lines of cashification.

eff1ngham
12-27-2010, 10:09 AM
I guess it's easier to reschedule football games because the stadium isn't in use as often as an arena. But I remember in Dec 06 we got 3-5 feet of snow (depending on the suburb) in Denver, all 5 major highways leading into Denver were closed and a state of emergency was declared, but the Nuggets still played a home game that night......

heliosj
12-27-2010, 10:17 AM
Jeff you do realize that the NFL is a business right? No customers means shop is closed. I think the NFL did the right thing. This wasn't just a snow storm, we got covered by 1-2 feet of snow.I realize it's a business that's been playing in the snow for almost 100 years. This was not a once in a 100 year event. More like a once in a 10 year event. They ended up getting just over a foot. Are you telling me PA residents can't navigate that? So they get delayed, so they get stuck? So what? Nation of pussies. Even the Governor of PA agrees with me.

heliosj
12-27-2010, 10:19 AM
I get what you're saying and it would lend itself to the "do you remember the 12 people in the stands for that game" mentality but I get why they did it. It was a safety risk getting the players and workers into and out of the stadium as well. The main reason is obviously what Fly mentioned. An empty stadium is a shitload of lost revenue that isn't easily forfeited. You can call it pussification and there is certainly some truth to that but I think that it is more along the lines of cashification.Some times you take a hit for your loyal fans. Both local fans and the television audience. The NFL didn't wait more than 5 seconds to give away free tickets last week for the game in Detroit. What was the difference here?

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
12-27-2010, 03:07 PM
NBC's Peter King reports that Barack Obama called Philadelphia Eagles (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/phi/) owner Jeffrey Lurie earlier this week to congratulate him for giving Vick a second chance (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/26/obama-applauds-eagles-for-giving-vick-second-chance/) after his release from prison.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Obama-calls-Eagles-owner-to-congraulate-him-for-?urn=nfl-300632

dw13
12-28-2010, 11:24 PM
That defense isn't Championship caliber.

Eagles are going to disappoint people in the playoffs.

Hockeyis#1
12-29-2010, 12:17 AM
Clearly a display of 'the team that wants it more wins'. The Eagles didn't want that game, and the Vikings did.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
01-09-2011, 05:48 PM
Sucks for Kolb and despite what happens in the post, Vick has pretty much earned another few years, no ? He seems to fit perfectly into Philly's system and I really can't see them not extending him long term.

King_Killah
01-10-2011, 07:21 PM
Sucks for Kolb and despite what happens in the post, Vick has pretty much earned another few years, no ? He seems to fit perfectly into Philly's system and I really can't see them not extending him long term.

They'll likely franchise Vick before giving him the long-term deal. Kolb is as good as out crying he wants to be traded unless he starts. He isn't starting over Vick. Here's a scenario that could happen... Marty Morns the Eagles OC is interviewing with the Browns. The GM in Cleveland personally drafted Kolb. If MM goes to Cleveland, watch Kolb follow. It will cost them a minimum of a 1st round pick (which personally I think is an outrage for him, but...) for him.

Doctego
01-10-2011, 09:57 PM
They'll likely franchise Vick before giving him the long-term deal. Kolb is as good as out crying he wants to be traded unless he starts. He isn't starting over Vick. Here's a scenario that could happen... Marty Morns the Eagles OC is interviewing with the Browns. The GM in Cleveland personally drafted Kolb. If MM goes to Cleveland, watch Kolb follow. It will cost them a minimum of a 1st round pick (which personally I think is an outrage for him, but...) for him.

That's extremely risky. If they don't get a LT deal done quickly, they have to pay him the average of the top 5 QB's in the league.

I could be wrong but Mornhinweg looks to me to be 1 of those coaches that is a solid coordinator but has no business running a team.

b_illin
01-11-2011, 12:32 PM
No way in hell would I give up a 1st for Kolb!