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Kyle
06-17-2010, 03:32 PM
Didn't mean 40 this year. I'd be amazed if he got 20 this year, I expect low low ice time unless he does fantastic. But the reality is our bottom 6 depth isn't what it used to be so I can see him cracking the third line within a year.

chgorman
06-17-2010, 07:23 PM
Didn't mean 40 this year. I'd be amazed if he got 20 this year, I expect low low ice time unless he does fantastic. But the reality is our bottom 6 depth isn't what it used to be so I can see him cracking the third line within a year.

Everything I've read says Filp'd bro will be in GR this season, to get used to the NA game, similar to what they did with Leino.

Cornholio
06-25-2010, 04:14 PM
Wings close to sign defenseman Evgeny Ryasensky

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2010/06/report_from_russia_indicates_d.html

chgorman
06-26-2010, 09:52 AM
I'm really liking the sound of this Sheahan kid. Loving the comparisons to Nash...

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/11772/2010_prospects_riley_sheahan/

MrScientist
06-26-2010, 10:11 AM
I'm really liking the sound of this Sheahan kid. Loving the comparisons to Nash...

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/11772/2010_prospects_riley_sheahan/

Yeah, of course he's a youngin' so I'd say it'll be at least three years before we see any of him.

I had the Wings picking Pysyk, but hey, they probably know better than me :lol:

Chilly_Willy
06-27-2010, 10:13 AM
LOL knowing the wings it will be 3 years before we see him and then 2 more before he gets a full season in :lol:

Spartan
07-07-2010, 11:59 AM
Eaves is up on another 1yr deal.

http://redwings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=533931

chgorman
07-07-2010, 12:12 PM
Yup, and Miller resigned yesterday on a 1yr deal too.

Anybody have any thoughts on Modano (potentially) signing on to be the 3rd line C?

Personally, I can't complain about the Wings bringing in a future HOF'er to play on the 3rd line, as they've more success than just about any other team when it comes to signings like that, however I'm worried that it might stunt Abs' and Helm's progress a bit if it knocks them down the depth chart at all.

MrScientist
07-07-2010, 01:06 PM
Abs needs to be in GR in my eyes. He's never effective for more than three consecutive games.

chicagohockey
07-07-2010, 01:16 PM
Yup, and Miller resigned yesterday on a 1yr deal too.

Anybody have any thoughts on Modano (potentially) signing on to be the 3rd line C?

Personally, I can't complain about the Wings bringing in a future HOF'er to play on the 3rd line, as they've more success than just about any other team when it comes to signings like that, however I'm worried that it might stunt Abs' and Helm's progress a bit if it knocks them down the depth chart at all.


It seems like with Modano it is all going to come down to how much $ to see if you feel ripped off or if you got a steal.

Chilly_Willy
07-07-2010, 09:24 PM
If Modano signs for the right $$ I think it would be a good deal. Detroit is still made up of a lot of solid veterans and more often than not it works.

thelaughingtree
07-08-2010, 03:44 AM
A deal for $1 mil - $1.25mil would be way plenty imho. Please no more than that.
Honestly, I am not a huge fan of Modano, buuuuut... It would REALLY work here for him & the team. Wings have had a lot of success in the past bringing in players like this, so why not for $1mil.
Still gonna take some getting used to though if he signs lol

chicagohockey
07-08-2010, 08:05 AM
A deal for $1 mil - $1.25mil would be way plenty imho. Please no more than that.
Honestly, I am not a huge fan of Modano, buuuuut... It would REALLY work here for him & the team. Wings have had a lot of success in the past bringing in players like this, so why not for $1mil.
Still gonna take some getting used to though if he signs lol

It seems like everyone thinks he is already washed up. He is still putting up solid points. He has been good for .5 points per game as a third/fourth liner in Dallas. I bet if you bumped him to second line duties he could put up 50-60 still.

Maybe we are just used to holding him to a higher standard.

chgorman
07-08-2010, 08:54 AM
So after Modano said it was DET or retire a day or two ago, he's now saying CHI is a possibility (as per rotoworld). I have no problem with him signing with CHI, just think it's funny that he says DET or nothing one day and then no more than 48 hrs later says CHI is an option he's considering :lol:

I wonder if he's just using that as leverage to get a better deal out of DET, or if he's actually serious about CHI?

chicagohockey
07-08-2010, 09:08 AM
So after Modano said it was DET or retire a day or two ago, he's now saying CHI is a possibility (as per rotoworld). I have no problem with him signing with CHI, just think it's funny that he says DET or nothing one day and then no more than 48 hrs later says CHI is an option he's considering :lol:

I wonder if he's just using that as leverage to get a better deal out of DET, or if he's actually serious about CHI?


Well lwe almost had him a few years ago when his contract was up, but the Dallas owner stepped in a few days bafore he was ready to sign and gave him a better deal.
I was ready to go get a Modano jersey.

Chilly_Willy
07-08-2010, 10:29 AM
So after Modano said it was DET or retire a day or two ago, he's now saying CHI is a possibility (as per rotoworld). I have no problem with him signing with CHI, just think it's funny that he says DET or nothing one day and then no more than 48 hrs later says CHI is an option he's considering :lol:

I wonder if he's just using that as leverage to get a better deal out of DET, or if he's actually serious about CHI?

The only other way I can see the quote is if he means Detroit seems to be the only team willing to sign him at the time. But a really odd thing to say publicly. Can't comment to much about the salary side, seeing these guys bicker over money when they are already garunteed million dollar contracts after a full career of multimillion dollar contracts is always so depressing. Pick a team and sign because you want to play or retire, you are already richer than God.

redwingbill
07-08-2010, 02:03 PM
NHLSourcesSay

Red Wings jump in Kovalchuk sweeps and have offered a 1 year deal worth $8.5 million.

Kyle
07-08-2010, 03:54 PM
I don't think he cares about a cup enough to even possibly consider that. Kovy's priorities are clear as day, he wants a long term contract. He won't risk getting injured and dropping his stock dramatically.

And how the fuck could the Wings make that work anyway? I don't want us to hurt longterm depth to bring him in for one season.

MrScientist
07-08-2010, 04:20 PM
I don't think he cares about a cup enough to even possibly consider that. Kovy's priorities are clear as day, he wants a long term contract. He won't risk getting injured and dropping his stock dramatically.

And how the fuck could the Wings make that work anyway? I don't want us to hurt longterm depth to bring him in for one season.

Ix-nay Afalski-Ray.

chgorman
07-08-2010, 05:03 PM
I don't think he cares about a cup enough to even possibly consider that. Kovy's priorities are clear as day, he wants a long term contract. He won't risk getting injured and dropping his stock dramatically.

And how the fuck could the Wings make that work anyway? I don't want us to hurt longterm depth to bring him in for one season.

Agreed. I don't see any way the team can possibly make this happen given their current cap situation. Definitely not at the expense of Raffy IMO. Even if they wanted to get rid of Raffy (which they don't, nor should they IMO), they can't just cut him and be rid of his salary... it's not the NFL. Any way you cut it, they'd have to pay him something and it would count against the cap, so 'ixnay'-ing him is not an option.

MrScientist
07-08-2010, 06:17 PM
Just stating an option, I'm definitely not on the Cancer-chuk bandwagon.

Cornholio
07-15-2010, 11:50 AM
Wings resign Meech, 1y, 500k

Don't really like that...

eykwingnut
07-15-2010, 12:16 PM
oh well, at least it was cheep...

dw13
08-04-2010, 02:36 PM
DarrenDreger (http://twitter.com/DarrenDreger)
Helm 2 year ext with Det. $825,000 and $1 mil.

chgorman
08-04-2010, 02:56 PM
DarrenDreger (http://twitter.com/DarrenDreger)
Helm 2 year ext with Det. $825,000 and $1 mil.

Sweet, good to hear. Love this guy. If he could ever develop even a bit of a scoring touch, he'd be dynamite with his speed.

Kyle
08-05-2010, 03:39 AM
Thats a bargain for what he already brings to the table and I truly see him getting exponentially better in the next few years.

Cornholio
08-05-2010, 11:35 AM
Modano's signing is official now.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=535408

He might get #90

chgorman
08-09-2010, 01:34 PM
Wings sign Salei, as per TSN.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=330022

Lilja very likely gone. fine with me. I like Salei as a bit of an upgrade, depending on what the terms are.

Hamsterkill
08-09-2010, 01:40 PM
Wings sign Salei, as per TSN.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=330022

Lilja very likely gone. fine with me. I like Salei as a bit of an upgrade, depending on what the terms are.
I think I saw 750K with 350K in bonuses.

MrScientist
08-09-2010, 01:57 PM
I think I saw 750K with 350K in bonuses.

That's the number.

Lilja's PK abilities are underrated, but he's looking for $1.5 million and that was a little too much given the Wings's cap situation. I like this signing for what it is: a #6 guy that hopefully Kindl will force to the press box.

phaneuf6
08-16-2010, 09:33 PM
What are you boys thinking Hudler can do this year?

MrScientist
08-17-2010, 01:46 AM
What are you boys thinking Hudler can do this year?

25 goals/60 points.

Cornholio
08-17-2010, 06:27 AM
2nd that
60 points was about what I was gonna say.
Can't wait, can't we start tomorrow?? ;)

Cornholio
08-18-2010, 04:55 PM
Can anyone tell me, why Abdelkader is listed on the team's homepage, but why there was no headline that he signed with the Wings?
I'm a bit confused...

madsci
08-18-2010, 05:54 PM
From DownGoesBrown's post-Kaberle-trade-day blog (http://www.downgoesbrown.com/2010/08/behind-scenes-on-kaberle-deadline-day.html) detailing how Burke's day went down:

"5:25 p.m. - The Detroit Red Wings express some interest in acquiring Kaberle, but eventually decide that now isn't the time for a youth movement. "

:)

Cornholio
08-23-2010, 12:17 PM
Finally!
Wings sign Abdelkader 2y
http://redwings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=536265

a0102030405
08-24-2010, 03:43 PM
From DownGoesBrown's post-Kaberle-trade-day blog (http://www.downgoesbrown.com/2010/08/behind-scenes-on-kaberle-deadline-day.html) detailing how Burke's day went down:

"5:25 p.m. - The Detroit Red Wings express some interest in acquiring Kaberle, but eventually decide that now isn't the time for a youth movement. "

:)

what? now is the perfect time to get a lidstrom replacement. plus a year to get used to the system while lids is still in it.

Hamsterkill
08-24-2010, 03:47 PM
what? now is the perfect time to get a lidstrom replacement. plus a year to get used to the system while lids is still in it.
Down Goes Brown is a comedic blog. That's a parody.

a0102030405
08-24-2010, 04:22 PM
Down Goes Brown is a comedic blog. That's a parody.


son of a bitch, i been got.

MrScientist
09-08-2010, 12:45 PM
Today is a dark day in Red Wings history as Derek Meech has been placed on waivers. Moment of silence

Chilly_Willy
09-08-2010, 01:43 PM
A little confused, why would they sign him if they were going to put him on waivers? They signed him just last july. Is it like a golden parachute?

edit: this article explains a bit, I thought they'd wait for camp but looks like they pulled the trigger, he's just not a top 6 defenseman on the wings.
http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2010/07/red_wings_sign_derek_meech_for.html

a0102030405
09-08-2010, 01:59 PM
Today is a dark day in Red Wings history as Derek Meech has been placed on waivers. Moment of silence

he will be the next Ville Leino.

Cornholio
09-08-2010, 02:46 PM
no way, i don't even think he'll be claimed.

by the way, no silent moment here ;)

chgorman
09-08-2010, 04:02 PM
He was serviceable as the 6th/7th D and part-time winger during the injury plague of last season, but with Ericsson already filling the 5th/6th D slot, Salei in the mix, Kindl out of minor league options and Brendan Smith well on his way to a role with the team (as early as the season after this coming season), there's really just no room for Meech unless he's willing to play in GR, which it sounds like he isn't. He'll get claimed and catch on somewhere, but I don't see him having a very large role wherever he ends up. He's a lifer in the 5th/6th D slot on just about any team, at best.

Jake
09-08-2010, 04:07 PM
Meech was terrible, glad to see him go. I will miss him as much as I miss Lebda. I am still annoyed we kept those usless guys over Quincey

eykwingnut
09-09-2010, 08:57 AM
no way, i don't even think he'll be claimed.

by the way, no silent moment here ;)
totally.

Spartan
09-09-2010, 10:22 AM
In other news Maltby is resigned.

We're suckers for grind line nostalgia.

Spartan
09-17-2010, 12:54 PM
Kind of interesting. Rafalski and Lidstrom will split up on regular shifts.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2010/09/red_wings_coach_mike_babcock_t_5.html

MrScientist
09-17-2010, 12:56 PM
Kind of interesting. Rafalski and Lidstrom will split up on regular shifts.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2010/09/red_wings_coach_mike_babcock_t_5.html

I like the idea. Nick is a two way defender but he's lost a step. Rafalski is almost purely offense. Stuart and Kronwall are both stay at home guys. Better to have 1a and 1b in my eyes.

Chilly_Willy
09-17-2010, 08:13 PM
I aways kinda wondered why they didn't do this sooner. Lidstrom Kronwall and Stuart Rafalski always seemed like a great 1 2 pairing to me.

MrScientist
09-18-2010, 09:31 PM
I see Marc-Andre Gragnani went down for Buffalo today, 4-6 weeks, possible Meech destination?

Hamsterkill
09-18-2010, 11:10 PM
I see Marc-Andre Gragnani went down for Buffalo today, 4-6 weeks, possible Meech destination?
Nah, Gragnani wasn't expected to make the main Sabres roster this year anyway. Now if Weber went down, I could see the Sabres considering it.

a0102030405
10-04-2010, 05:50 PM
Kind of interesting. Rafalski and Lidstrom will split up on regular shifts.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2010/09/red_wings_coach_mike_babcock_t_5.html

so glad they decided to do this. Gives Kronwall a lot of experience playing 1st line minutes since he will be the future, while still having Lidstrom as a safety net.

Can't wait for the season to start so the wings can reclaim that top spot in the West.

Chilly_Willy
10-04-2010, 09:02 PM
Yeah the wings seem to have drawn out the haters thinking they smell blood but those injuries were a real knock out and then Pavelski was inhuman. I hate to throw out the stereotypical blame it on the refs but the officiating in especially the last game of the wings playoff was f'n terrible. Looking forward to looking ahead.

Kyle
10-05-2010, 12:08 AM
Yeah, I'm not gonna play the excuse game this long after the fact, but the Wings definitely played A-class hockey in the postseason and were simply on fire from the moment they got healthy until the end. We destroyed ourselves on the special teams battle in the playoffs, when we were eliminated we had the highst +/- in the league across the board. Theres no reason to be anything but EXTREMELY excited over this season's outlook as a Wings fan. This will be a good year.

MrScientist
10-05-2010, 11:35 AM
Tampa claims Ritola off of waivers.

Cornholio
10-05-2010, 02:42 PM
who else but stevie y. would? ;)

Chilly_Willy
10-05-2010, 11:28 PM
Maltby goes on waivers as he heads to the minors. Kinda anticipated this when he signed the 2 way contract. I don't see any teams clamming him.

I think a season or even 2 Malty really had little to offer in an NHL role. Tough to see him go out like that instead of being retired but there is just no room in the roster anymore. I guess he can fill in for injuries here and there but I've not been a big fan of his contribution last few seasons and would prefer to see some prospects. But he certainly was a fixture on those cup winning teams.

phaneuf6
10-06-2010, 08:34 AM
Maltby goes on waivers as he heads to the minors. Kinda anticipated this when he signed the 2 way contract. I don't see any teams clamming him.

I think a season or even 2 Malty really had little to offer in an NHL role. Tough to see him go out like that instead of being retired but there is just no room in the roster anymore. I guess he can fill in for injuries here and there but I've not been a big fan of his contribution last few seasons and would prefer to see some prospects. But he certainly was a fixture on those cup winning teams.

Craig Simpson was saying during the game on Saturday night how Maltby knew this was what was going to happen while Detroit tinkered with their roster. In 2 months Ken Holland will reevaluate and see if Maltby can fit in and at that point he'll sit down with Maltby and see what they want to do.

eykwingnut
10-06-2010, 09:20 AM
Tampa claims Ritola off of waivers.
I liked Ritola a lot.

chgorman
10-07-2010, 06:31 AM
On the TSN Season Preview Show last night, both Bob MacKenzie and Pierre McGuire picked the Wings to win the Cup this season. I was kinda surprised, I figured CHI/VAN/WSH would be the favorites.

two24four
10-09-2010, 10:36 AM
Dats with the Goride Howe hat trick last night, haha, vs Perry, Dats did pretty good as well.

There goes his Lady Byng this year though :lol:

Hockeyis#1
10-09-2010, 11:53 AM
Dats with the Goride Howe hat trick last night, haha, vs Perry, Dats did pretty good as well.

There goes his Lady Byng this year though :lol:I was shocked!! I couldn't believe Dats dropped the gloves....

That has to be a sign of the apocalypse :lol:

a0102030405
10-09-2010, 02:44 PM
dominant game by the Wings, and pretty much what I was expecting from them this year.


I watched most of the game but left before it ended and missed the datsyuk fight live lol. Too bad, would've made for a funny reaction.

Kyle
10-09-2010, 03:08 PM
What a fucking game, we were clicking. Howard picking up right where he let off last year. 43-21 shots, with our (finally) potent third line we can officially welcome back puck posession hockey.

Chilly_Willy
10-09-2010, 08:46 PM
Correy Perry has to be in the top 10 biggest pussies in the game. MAybe only second to Semin's girlie hammer fists

YouTube - Pavel Datsyuk Vs Corey Perry 10/08/10

phaneuf6
10-09-2010, 08:48 PM
Corey Perry is a goddamn beauty.

Kyle
10-10-2010, 12:08 AM
Perry is a complete sissy bitch. If judges kept score, he arguably would've lost that fight, which is absolutely pitiful as he should've destroyed Datsyuk. He had all he could handle and hardly landed 1-2 even decent hits.

MrScientist
10-12-2010, 10:45 AM
Malts is retiring tonight.

Ericsson is still out, Rafalski needs his knee scoped. Janik has been recalled.

All from MLive

Chilly_Willy
10-12-2010, 11:15 AM
Sad to hear about Malts but I am glad he recognizes it is time. I wouldn't mind seeing Draper, Holmstrom, Osgood retire too, its time to pass the torch.

phaneuf6
10-12-2010, 11:23 AM
How's Hudler look?

a0102030405
10-12-2010, 11:26 AM
How's Hudler look?

not good so far. They need to get him out of L3 and bring him up to L2 with Franzen and Flipper.

But Detroit is rolling so I doubt that will happen anytime soon.

eykwingnut
10-12-2010, 12:41 PM
Sad to hear about Malts but I am glad he recognizes it is time. I wouldn't mind seeing Draper, Holmstrom, Osgood retire too, its time to pass the torch.
I hear you on the other 2 but Holmer?

Hockeyis#1
10-12-2010, 03:32 PM
not good so far. They need to get him out of L3 and bring him up to L2 with Franzen and Flipper.

But Detroit is rolling so I doubt that will happen anytime soon.
I have watched games, but haven't paid really close attention to line combos. I take 2nd line is Franzen/Filp/Bertuzzi? Does Hudler get PP time over Bertuzzi??

I agree Draper will be next, but I think Ozzy can still contribute, and Holmer still has a few productive years left in him.

two24four
10-12-2010, 05:53 PM
Rafalski will be out 3-4 weeks, he got his knee scoped.

Chilly_Willy
10-12-2010, 07:14 PM
I hear you on the other 2 but Holmer?

I'm just a homer hater, he is the best at what he does though.

a0102030405
10-12-2010, 08:18 PM
I have watched games, but haven't paid really close attention to line combos. I take 2nd line is Franzen/Filp/Bertuzzi? Does Hudler get PP time over Bertuzzi??

I agree Draper will be next, but I think Ozzy can still contribute, and Holmer still has a few productive years left in him.

I think so. But still, like many red wings, there just isn't enough room for him to get the ice time he deserves.




I'm just a homer hater, he is the best at what he does though.

http://thomasontracts.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/homer.jpg

Chilly_Willy
10-12-2010, 08:53 PM
hahaha not that homer, doo!

Some sloppy defense against Colorado tonight, hope they can get the go ahead before OT tonight

bearcats
10-12-2010, 11:45 PM
what do you guys think valteri's cieling is this year....he seems to be ready for a breakout year.....especially playing with johan and bert and/or hudler.....

Cornholio
10-13-2010, 09:46 AM
60 pts at least

MrScientist
10-13-2010, 10:07 AM
The kid still has problems shooting despite his two goals in three games, I'd say 15/40/55 is a decent floor to expect though.

Chilly_Willy
10-13-2010, 01:23 PM
Yes he is being encouraged to shot more, he took a shot from a bad angle last night and I was impressed I have no idea how he got it on net at that angle while being defended, he does seem to have some skills for shooting but looks for the pass a lot. I am hearing the coaching staff is really on him to shoot it more. He is looking real good out there, I thought hudler would be a top 6 but the way Franzen Filpula and Berts are clicking hudler may have another 3rd line season under his belt.

Matlby was really classy last night I was thinking he may make a good commentator annalist if he ever chooses too. So crazy to see these guys that were such young kids now retired and getting into management and scouting. Man the time flies, don't forget to stop and smell the roses.

Hockeyis#1
10-13-2010, 06:58 PM
To Maltby :beer::beer::beer::beer:

Cornholio
10-14-2010, 04:39 AM
:beer::beer::beer:

Kyle
10-14-2010, 11:04 AM
:beer::beer::beer:

a0102030405
10-14-2010, 09:30 PM
beer.


edit: wings looking bad tonight.

Ossy: 4 GA on 9 shots.

chgorman
10-15-2010, 11:42 AM
beer.


edit: wings looking bad tonight.

Ossy: 4 GA on 9 shots.

Wings were effing terrible last night, in all facets of the game. Embarassing performance.

Chilly_Willy
10-15-2010, 11:46 AM
I didn't see the game last night but the one before it there were some pretty serious defensive lapses.

a0102030405
10-15-2010, 04:05 PM
anyone hear of possible line combination for next game? Hopefully Hudler can move up to one of the 2 offensive lines in Franzen's absence.

Cornholio
10-16-2010, 08:57 AM
mlive.com says Miller will replace Franzen...

a0102030405
10-16-2010, 12:31 PM
mlive.com says Miller will replace Franzen...

doesn't make too much sense. They brought Hudler over because last year they had so little offense, and they keep him on the 3rd line?

I like Miller, but they're playing a 4th liner on the 2nd line over Hudler who could easily be 2nd line/1st on a few teams.

At this rate, he'll go back to the KHL next year.

Cornholio
10-16-2010, 07:25 PM
Yeah, well there are still 78 games to be played ;)

Can anyone explain, why the Wings don't put Rafalski on LTIR?

Due to capissues, they play one man short tonight in Phoenix.
They wouldn't have the cap problems, if they had put Raf on IR, or am I mistaken??

Jake
10-16-2010, 11:36 PM
I don't know what they showed on tv, but Kindl looked like shit tonight. He was out of position a lot, turned it over often and all around was not impressive. I know he's a rookie, etc. but some things are basic and he blew them too (gave up the breakaway from the expiring penalty and spent half the time on his ass). I really had higher hopes for him.

In other disappointing news, Jobing.com arena is louder than the joe, the fans are actually more into tbhe game in phoenix than at the Joe... it reminded me of the days when the Wings sucked and only the true fans went, it was loud and everybody was into the game. It seems like once the wings won it all the prices jumped and the average fans were no longer were able to get tickets, corporations got all of the good seats and seldom went to the games. I still hate that the games are "sold out" yet half the arenas empty and it is so quiet that you can hear a mouse fart.

Cornholio
10-17-2010, 11:40 AM
The PP in the first 60 minutes sucked big time!
The 2 PP-chances in the OT were WAY better!!

Anyone has an answer to my question about the cap thing?
Thanks ;)

Kyle
10-17-2010, 12:13 PM
The PP in the first 60 minutes sucked big time!
The 2 PP-chances in the OT were WAY better!!

Anyone has an answer to my question about the cap thing?
Thanks ;)

Is that saying anything? Who can't run an efficient 4 on 3? Its quite easy. Our PP needs to step up.

Kyle
10-19-2010, 09:02 PM
WTF is up with these 4-5 day breaks between games in our schedule? Theres another one comming right up -_-

a0102030405
10-20-2010, 08:48 AM
WTF is up with these 4-5 day breaks between games in our schedule? Theres another one comming right up -_-

idk, but a lot of teams have them now, while is kinda stupid. Oh well more rest for Franzen I suppose.

Cornholio
10-21-2010, 11:31 AM
... who will return tonight! :)

Howards gets the start (of course).

a0102030405
10-21-2010, 08:16 PM
... who will return tonight! :)

Howards gets the start (of course).

see :cool:

that wouldn't have happened without the unusual gap in the sched.

Kyle
10-21-2010, 09:53 PM
Good win. Howard is playing at his top 5 overall pace again.

Jake
10-23-2010, 03:10 PM
The PP in the first 60 minutes sucked big time!
The 2 PP-chances in the OT were WAY better!!

Anyone has an answer to my question about the cap thing?
Thanks ;)

The long breaks between games means that he might be healthy before he has to sit out the required number of days/games required for IR/LTIR. The announcers mentioned it on TV the other day

Kyle
10-23-2010, 08:43 PM
Thank God we pulled out the win on an absolutely brilliant shift by the Datsyuk line culminating in one of the best goals I've seen Datsyuk score with 10 seconds remaining. That was embarassing that it took that to win though, outshooting 2:1 and dominating the whole game but giving out 3 easy goals (The Cleary giveaway to Selanne being the worst by far). We've given away tons of goals this year on poor split second reactions or decisions.

Cornholio
10-24-2010, 08:05 AM
Agree!
As long as "we" score one goal more than the other team, I can live with that ;)

Cornholio
10-26-2010, 02:46 PM
YouTube - Niklas Kronwall cranks Teemu Selanne


http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/image/composition/17053816/view/1/producttypecolor/1/type/png/width/280/height/280/steamroller-55_design.png

:evilgrin:

a0102030405
10-26-2010, 07:56 PM
YouTube - Niklas Kronwall cranks Teemu Selanne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgJyoIH7cGc)


http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/image/composition/17053816/view/1/producttypecolor/1/type/png/width/280/height/280/steamroller-55_design.png

:evilgrin:

i want one of those.

eykwingnut
10-26-2010, 09:32 PM
YouTube - Niklas Kronwall cranks Teemu Selanne (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgJyoIH7cGc)
:evilgrin:
reminds me of the commentary for this video at 52 seconds, enjoy!
YouTube - The Best of The NHL 99' Color Commentary (N64)

Chilly_Willy
10-27-2010, 12:14 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Kronwall starts showing up on that list of least liked players when NHL players are polled each season :lol:

Kyle
10-27-2010, 12:26 PM
He never will because only the teams getting stomped by him ever complain. If he hit dirty, people would've addressed it by now. Kronwall has been borderline MANY times through his career but overall he is definitely known as one of the top clean hitters in the game and has done well to avoid a reputation as a dirty player. The only beef comes with the ignorant belief that hes wrong for leaving his feet when those complainers never realize its always after contact (Which is perfectly legal).

I love Kronwall and I think people besides the fans of the player getting stomped can appreciate the lessons he teaches others about keeping their heads up.

All the top hitters will be disliked to an extent and I don't think Kronwall has earned any more than that standard amount.

Chilly_Willy
10-27-2010, 12:37 PM
He is certainly an asset to the team, he catches some pretty talented players too and everyone has to take that extra moment to know where he is before they can make a decision and in the NHL a second is an eternity.

I think he does put a little more into his hits than his positioning allows but he does know how to keep it from being a clear cut charging and interferance. As someone that misses Konstantinov gravely its welcome to see a punishing D man in the winged wheel.

eykwingnut
10-28-2010, 10:48 PM
Osgood was brutal. I'm getting sick of watching our offense look so good without finish.

chgorman
10-29-2010, 06:22 AM
Osgood was brutal. I'm getting sick of watching our offense look so good without finish.

Only in the 1st. he cleaned up his act in the 2nd and 3rd and made some big saves. Definitely put them in a huge hole early though.

Dats had a sick game. I think he dangled every single player on PHX's team at some point or another during the course of the game. Some ridiculous moves last night.

eykwingnut
10-29-2010, 08:04 AM
Dats had a sick game. I think he dangled every single player on PHX's team at some point or another during the course of the game. Some ridiculous moves last night.
he's been amazing all season so far. best stretch i've seen out of him for his career to this point.

Kyle
10-29-2010, 09:22 AM
Best is a tough word to use but I will agree its his most impressive only because he hasn't been able to play like this in quite a while since the league caught up with his act a bit last year. That hes making moves that good and embarassing people when they know damn well that its comming is whats most impressive about this stretch, everyne knows exactly what hes gonna do but they can't do jack shit about it. He has been on fire.

Kyle
10-29-2010, 04:48 PM
Oh, and Bryz put up one of the more phenomenal goaltending performances of the year to steal that one for Phoenix. He is incredible.

eykwingnut
10-29-2010, 10:07 PM
Oh, and Bryz put up one of the more phenomenal goaltending performances of the year to steal that one for Phoenix. He is incredible.
Yeah, he's a beast.

side note: I sat next to his wife at a phoenix vs. san jose game one time and she's so sexy.

a0102030405
10-30-2010, 11:34 AM
yes, Bryz is a beast.


And Huds scratched instead of Modano :wtf: to let Abby back in the lineup.

Kyle
10-30-2010, 08:51 PM
Fantastic game tonight. The beast in Datsyuk has awakened and I love it.:beer:

MrScientist
10-30-2010, 08:57 PM
Osgood is one win closer to not playing the rest of the season :lol:

eykwingnut
10-30-2010, 10:15 PM
Osgood is one win closer to not playing the rest of the season :lol:
exactly what i was thinking. and i love it! :beer:

Chilly_Willy
10-31-2010, 12:18 AM
yes, Bryz is a beast.


And Huds scratched instead of Modano :wtf: to let Abby back in the lineup.

Top 10 scorers in the KHL 2009-2010
1 Mozyakin Sergei
2 Sushinsky Maxim
3 Yashin Alexei
4 Radulov Alexander
5 Weinhandl Mattias
6 Thoresen Patrick
7 Hossa Marcel
8 Radivojevic Branko
9 Hudler Jiri <---------------------
10 Zinovyev Sergei

I know the NHL is the #!@% but Hudler has to be second guessing his decision to come back at this point, no?

MrScientist
10-31-2010, 12:30 AM
Top 10 scorers in the KHL 2009-2010
1 Mozyakin Sergei
2 Sushinsky Maxim
3 Yashin Alexei
4 Radulov Alexander
5 Weinhandl Mattias
6 Thoresen Patrick
7 Hossa Marcel
8 Radivojevic Branko
9 Hudler Jiri <---------------------
10 Zinovyev Sergei

I know the NHL is the #!@% but Hudler has to be second guessing his decision to come back at this point, no?

His team folded, so I'm not sure if he would have gotten the money he did originally with another KHL team.

Cornholio
10-31-2010, 03:48 PM
Well, the third line neither looked better nor worse without Hudler...

alias
10-31-2010, 09:28 PM
Top 10 scorers in the KHL 2009-2010
1 Mozyakin Sergei
2 Sushinsky Maxim
3 Yashin Alexei
4 Radulov Alexander
5 Weinhandl Mattias
6 Thoresen Patrick
7 Hossa Marcel
8 Radivojevic Branko
9 Hudler Jiri <---------------------
10 Zinovyev Sergei

I know the NHL is the #!@% but Hudler has to be second guessing his decision to come back at this point, no?

Look 2 spots above him though and you'll see someone who couldn't cut it in the NHL at all.

Kyle
11-03-2010, 11:10 PM
The Flames were absolutely annihilated. Kipper is the only reason it wasn't 5-1. Amazing 5 minute penalty kill and amazing show by Howard.

phaneuf6
11-03-2010, 11:27 PM
Agreed Kyle. Great game by the Wings. Kipper has to sort out that far glove side angle by the looks of it.

two24four
11-03-2010, 11:42 PM
Iginla is not looking good to start the season off.

Kyle
11-03-2010, 11:45 PM
He had a lot of plays he could've made for sure. His finishing is looking weak so far.

Cornholio
11-04-2010, 01:07 PM
Best game from line 3 so far, by far !!

HT9
11-04-2010, 06:43 PM
Saturday night should be good gentlemen :beer:

a0102030405
11-04-2010, 10:37 PM
Saturday night should be good gentlemen :beer:

what happens then?



also Franzen sits out practice, seems like just for rest. if it is what it says, then maybe Franzen's numbers will be even higher when he is 100% :eek:

eykwingnut
11-05-2010, 10:18 AM
what happens then?
We play his boys, the Canucks.

I know he's not in the line-up to score goals, but Cleary needs to learn how to put the puck in the net. He reminds me of Draper in the offense department.

Chilly_Willy
11-05-2010, 10:56 AM
We play his boys, the Canucks.

I know he's not in the line-up to score goals, but Cleary needs to learn how to put the puck in the net. He reminds me of Draper in the offense department.

Cleary is one of those playoff players. Not much to speak of during the season but he is so valued in post season. He is not getting any younger season after season though

Cornholio
11-06-2010, 10:02 AM
3 points for Cleary, he seems to read here :D
With Abby in that line, Cleary and Modano have been dynamite, as well as Abby!!
Hudler didn't fit very well in the 4th line IMO... didn't look very comfortable...

pjm
11-06-2010, 11:15 PM
I have never seen so many slips/falls on ice as I saw today in the DET/VAN game. The ice must have been really bad, seemed like guys were catching edges all over the place.

HT9
11-07-2010, 05:55 AM
Sick game! I wish I went :(

chgorman
11-07-2010, 10:01 AM
Wings looked tired, made a ton of uncharacteristic mistakes, Dats especially.

For once, I wish DET could get VAN in VAN when it's not the 2nd gm of a B2B. Seems like the y always play CGY or EDM the night before heading to VAN. Seems to happen with SJ a lot too, the seem to play LA or ANA the night before going to SJ. I'm sure its the same everywhere, but I still find it annoying. Why can't the Wings ever play VAN in VAN on the first night of a b2b, or better yet, with a day of rest?

canuckthug
11-07-2010, 02:31 PM
Wings looked tired, made a ton of uncharacteristic mistakes, Dats especially.

For once, I wish DET could get VAN in VAN when it's not the 2nd gm of a B2B. Seems like the y always play CGY or EDM the night before heading to VAN. Seems to happen with SJ a lot too, the seem to play LA or ANA the night before going to SJ. I'm sure its the same everywhere, but I still find it annoying. Why can't the Wings ever play VAN in VAN on the first night of a b2b, or better yet, with a day of rest?

I agree the B2B makes it slightly favorable for VAN but it was the Canucks 4th game in 6 nights. Its not like they were waiting in the trenches for 3 days. The Wings played 3 games in 5 nights.

I was scrolling through this thread for a minute, i have not seen one mention or discussion of Howard's remarkable unbeated in 22 record. He was 19-0-3 until last night. Howard didnt play bad, but I think your backup should have gotten the start (OzzY)?? I also gotta say Lidstrom is a beast again. Last year and (possibly) the year before the media began talking about his age like it was the inevitable reason for his decline but that no longer applies. The only reason he was not old Lidstrom is because he was too busy playing hockey till June ( back to back years). He was at a disadvantage because he had the shortest summers to heal and rest. Last year the Wings obviously never made the finals and Lidstrom is a force to start the campaign this year. Id even say hes the early candidate for Norris at this point.

Kyle
11-07-2010, 03:19 PM
Yeah, and people all around the hockey world, while they acknowledge the Wing's injurys last year, truly can't comprehend the defensive responsibilities that contributed to the PPG decline in players like Datsyuk and Lidstrom. I thought Lidstrom's PPG pace over the last 25 games of the season would convince people but a lot really did have him out of the top 5 D-men in the league this year and I'm glad hes proving to everybody that he still deserves legitimate consideration for #1. I'm don't want to mention the Norris yet but anyone whos ruling him out at this point is insane.

Offensively he is still easily a top 5 D-man in this league and IMHO he is still the clear #1 defensively. If things keep up this will be one of the stronger years in this top 3 D-man career in NHL history and could go down as one of the more memorable oldies seasons in NHL history, and the first truly noteworthy one since Sakic's 100 points at 37.

chgorman
11-08-2010, 04:56 PM
Raffy back tonight. I know there's a good chunk of wings fans here who aren't a fan of the guy, and I agree that he has some defensive deficiencies, but I for one am super happy to have him back in the lineup. Kindl is not an everyday defenceman yet.

a0102030405
11-08-2010, 05:37 PM
raffy's offense will undoubtedly boosts Detroit's overall offense considerably. Not a huge fan of some of the defensive aspects but his overall D is much better then average. People's problem seems to be, that he is not another Nik Lidstrom.

DarkValiant
11-08-2010, 11:44 PM
raffy's offense will undoubtedly boosts Detroit's overall offense considerably. Not a huge fan of some of the defensive aspects but his overall D is much better then average. People's problem seems to be, that he is not another Nik Lidstrom.

I agree. While he's not an amazing shut down defenseman, he's got a good offensive upside and no glaring holes in his defensive game. I mean, I'd rather have Rafalski on my team in real life than guys like Green or Campbell who are all out offense and can't play D worth a damn.

eykwingnut
11-09-2010, 09:14 AM
I'm the biggest Rafalski hater I know about, and even I'm happy to have him back. Like you guys said, the guys waiting in GR are not ready to play with the big boys yet.

Hudler needs to wake the eff up! He has looked terrible all season. He needs to hit the weight room because he still gets thrown around like a rag doll, and looks scared out there.

I can't wait till the Mule wakes up. We are winning like this without our most potent pure goal scorer putting the puck in the net? Look-out!

MrScientist
11-11-2010, 05:07 PM
http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/myoilers/2010/11/10/16078546.html#/sports/myoilers/2010/11/10/pf-16078546.html

Keep it classy, but bomb that guy's email. What a joke of an article in so many ways.

madsci
11-11-2010, 05:12 PM
http://www.edmontonsun.com/sports/myoilers/2010/11/10/16078546.html#/sports/myoilers/2010/11/10/pf-16078546.html

Keep it classy, but bomb that guy's email. What a joke of an article in so many ways.

The real joke is that it's written by a guy in Edmonton. I was born there and have a lot of friends there, but dude - glass houses, man.

a0102030405
11-11-2010, 10:27 PM
6-2. didn't watch the game, but heard Hudler looked great, and with Bert on L3, all 3 lines are clicking.

eykwingnut
11-12-2010, 01:34 AM
6-2. didn't watch the game, but heard Hudler looked great, and with Bert on L3, all 3 lines are clicking.
I wouldn't say he looked great, but he definitely looked a lot better. Every line looked to have good chemistry tonight. Modano got a lot of good chances. Cleary with a goal in 4 straight since I called him out a week ago. haha!

DarkValiant
11-13-2010, 09:06 PM
I'm really tired of Howard getting shafted out of shutouts because the Wings winning by a landslide and the refs decide they need to give the other team a chance after chance to get back in it.

Chilly_Willy
11-13-2010, 09:19 PM
That Bertuzzi goal was sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

chgorman
11-14-2010, 09:33 AM
That Bertuzzi goal was sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

Yup, definitely a sick snipe. Sweet back-hander from Cleary on his goal too.

Nice to see Huds get on the board too, even though it was a terrible goal, haha.

MrScientist
11-15-2010, 12:26 PM
Credit where credit's due for Lambert :lol::

"Kris Draper (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/197/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/197/news) and Chris Osgood (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/724/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/724/news) might soon return from injury (http://www.freep.com/article/20101114/SPORTS05/11140689/1053/Red-Wings-Kris-Draper-practices-for-first-time). Sorry Wings fans."

Chilly_Willy
11-15-2010, 01:02 PM
LOL as much as some wings linger like a stale fart I think its that loyalty to the players and family atmosphere that brings a continuous stream of talent to Detroit. :lol: The only coulple guys I can remember that Detroit actually forced to retire are Chellios and Maltby and those guys were like "Dude!" Next season Drapper and Osgood wings need to be like "Dude!"

bearcats
11-17-2010, 10:05 PM
hey wing fans........what up with valteri? 7 goals tonight and nata, nothing, zilch.....has he been dumped to the 4th line or what? Not sure I want to keep him rostered anymore....any help would be greatly appreciated

a0102030405
11-17-2010, 10:18 PM
hey wing fans........what up with valteri? 7 goals tonight and nata, nothing, zilch.....has he been dumped to the 4th line or what? Not sure I want to keep him rostered anymore....any help would be greatly appreciated

L2 was the only line not clicking. so all of val, huds and franzen got nothing. Hell even lids got nothing.

Kyle
11-17-2010, 11:06 PM
Blues outplayed us but they can't finish worth a shit. Dominant third period, 7-3 on a game we got outplayed in is just a monstrous piece of info. Imagine if we had actually been playing well

eykwingnut
11-18-2010, 10:11 AM
Don't forget though, they are missing:
Barret Jackman
Paul Kariya
T.J. Oshie
David Perron
Roman Polak
I'm not trying to poo poo on the victory, but the first 3 on that list are guys that usually play really well against us. Did we play sloppy on our own, or did their speed and determination rush us into stupid sloppy decisions? Also, we are very rested right now, and conversely, their schedule is pretty unfavorable. Hopefully next time both teams are healthy and we play better in front of Howard.

Side note: I f*cking hate the Blues. One of my really good friends is from St. Louis and always talks sh*t about the Red Wings. He always roots against the wings no matter who they are playing.

Cornholio
11-18-2010, 01:37 PM
Hail to Danny Cleary!
That guy's unbelievable!

MrScientist
11-21-2010, 07:48 PM
Nicklas Danglestrom

eykwingnut
11-22-2010, 12:05 AM
OMG! What a comeback! I might leave this one on my DVR for my buddy who's overseas. Datsyuk and Zetterberg do it again! I want to hang out with them. haha

Kyle
11-22-2010, 03:02 AM
Absolutely brilliant showing by 3 of the top 10 hockey players in the world, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Lidstrom:beer: The Datsyuk move to set up the game tying goal was nothing short of remarkable.

phaneuf6
11-22-2010, 12:57 PM
WTF was Sarich doing on that tying goal? Lay out man, take away the pass. Jesus.

Cornholio
11-22-2010, 01:59 PM
As you say that, it reminds me of Rafalski in the playoffs last year, the Wings 4th loss against the Sharks...

But what a great move by Lidström - I still can't believe it!!!

EVERY other player would have shot the puck into the wide open net with his forehand, and Lidström, I mean, he's not too well known for his deking...
I just can't believe it !!! :D

Kyle
11-22-2010, 02:08 PM
As you say that, it reminds me of Rafalski in the playoffs last year, the Wings 4th loss against the Sharks...

But what a great move by Lidström - I still can't believe it!!!

EVERY other player would have shot the puck into the wide open net with his forehand, and Lidström, I mean, he's not too well known for his deking...
I just can't believe it !!! :D

Is it just me or did Lidstrom see flashes of that game 7 save in Detroit two years ago and was downright afraid of shooting it into Kipper's body? He had a wide open net but he had to recieve the puck between his legs so he couldn't take the shot right away. He STILL had the open net but I swear it seemed like he just wasn't ready for a repeat of that sprawling body save :lol: Either way, heads up play and the backhand was just about as high % as the forehand anyway in that position, so I'll give him due props. Sick play!

a0102030405
11-23-2010, 04:13 PM
lids just wanted to make kipper look bad lol. he could've just clipped it in for the easy goal but he had to do things the hard way.

next game vs ATL should be good. Another 5+ goal game? :P

eykwingnut
11-25-2010, 07:36 AM
lids just wanted to make kipper look bad lol. he could've just clipped it in for the easy goal but he had to do things the hard way.

next game vs ATL should be good. Another 5+ goal game? :P
yup... FOR THE OPPOSITION! We've looked pretty bad the past 4 games. Luckily we've had some favorable outcomes. Hopefully this game was a wake up call...

a0102030405
11-25-2010, 11:47 AM
next game vs ATL should be good. Another 5+ goal game? :P

:lol:





... :(

Kyle
11-26-2010, 10:08 PM
I'll take the road win. One of Howard's best nights of the season. I don't think theres been a 10 game stretch this season that we haven't won at least 7 games durring.

chgorman
11-27-2010, 10:45 AM
Jimmy was definitely a monster last night. Made some ridiculous saves. Mason was pretty solid at the other end too (just to give credit where it's due). Definitely a goalie duel last night. Neither team looked particularly great otherwise.

Cornholio
12-03-2010, 04:14 PM
Happy 50th birthday to the 3rd OT hero in the SC-finals, Igor Larionov!

Chilly_Willy
12-04-2010, 01:46 PM
Happy 50th birthday to the 3rd OT hero in the SC-finals, Igor Larionov!

And he still looks 30. A few back he happend to be at my dentist's office. I didn't talk to him, but I was dropping some eaves. He was talking about Vancouver Olympics I don't remember what specifically.

eykwingnut
12-04-2010, 02:09 PM
Most complete game in a while by the Wings last night. Are the Ducks as bad as the Wings made them look? My how the "Mighty" have fallen. ;)

Kyle
12-04-2010, 06:47 PM
The Ducks aren't that bad, but the Wings have always grossly outplayed them. its really only ever been unbelievable goaltending that has won Anahiem games over Detroit the last 5-6 years. IMO they're simply outclassed as an organization and still not in that same league yet. Anahiem really lost their steam as soon as they started to gain respect.

That said, their (often dirty) physicality always makes me terrified to play them in the playoffs.

eykwingnut
12-06-2010, 07:30 AM
The Ducks aren't that bad, but the Wings have always grossly outplayed them. its really only ever been unbelievable goaltending that has won Anahiem games over Detroit the last 5-6 years. IMO they're simply outclassed as an organization and still not in that same league yet. Anahiem really lost their steam as soon as they started to gain respect.

That said, their (often dirty) physicality always makes me terrified to play them in the playoffs.
basically when they got rid of pronger

Cornholio
12-11-2010, 07:52 AM
Great game last night, seemed like playoff time!!! :cool:

Hockeyis#1
12-14-2010, 01:16 AM
Wow Jon Quick.....wow.......

Kyle
12-14-2010, 06:24 PM
WTF? I missed the game, 51-26 shot advantage but losing 5-0? I don't know if I've ever seen a 51 shot shutout in my life. What a nasty way to lose but at least we were playing good hockey (except for Howard, apparently).

boredguy
12-15-2010, 10:26 PM
This is pretty cool, Lidstrom got his first career hat trick tonight.

eykwingnut
12-15-2010, 11:24 PM
Bingo! Curly fries!

eykwingnut
12-18-2010, 10:40 AM
Are you EFFING kidding me!?!? Does anyone have the hits statistic on that Chicago game? The Wings played like a bunch of pussies. I was completely disgusted with that performance. I hope Babcock has something up his sleeve because we are coming back to the pack quickly after that amazing start to the season.

Cornholio
12-19-2010, 11:50 AM
osgood starts tonight, hopefully he hits #400 in the win department!

b_illin
12-19-2010, 09:29 PM
Nice toque

http://www.drjays.com/shop/G1-V5201-P926920/new-era/the-original-redwings-skullie-by-new-era.html

eykwingnut
12-19-2010, 09:55 PM
What a turn around. Even though we still lost, tonight's game against Dallas had a playoff type atmosphere. I don't say this often, but Osgood has some spectacular saves!

Chilly_Willy
12-20-2010, 10:27 AM
This is pretty cool, Lidstrom got his first career hat trick tonight.

That is cool to get one before retirement. :cool: Lot of offense from that man over the years nice to see him pot 3 in one game.

two24four
12-22-2010, 11:15 PM
Sounds like Dats is out 4 weeks with a broken hand.

chgorman
12-23-2010, 09:13 AM
Sounds like Dats is out 4 weeks with a broken hand.

Big loss. Sucks, but at least it's only 4 wks in a cast and not something worse that would require surgery.

Rest of the team will have to step up a bit. I'm lookin' at you Filp.

MrScientist
12-23-2010, 10:15 AM
Big loss. Sucks, but at least it's only 4 wks in a cast and not something worse that would require surgery.

Rest of the team will have to step up a bit. I'm lookin' at you Filp.

Uhhh please divert your gaze to Hudler.

chgorman
12-23-2010, 11:58 AM
Uhhh please divert your gaze to Hudler.

Well yeah, him too, obviously. I mentioned Filp because he plays the same position as Dats.

Cornholio
12-27-2010, 01:20 AM
cleary out about 4 weeks with a broken ankle

DarkValiant
12-27-2010, 09:37 AM
Starting to feel like last year all over again.

DarkValiant
12-27-2010, 11:44 PM
What a great game for Ozzy to get his 400th win, he stole that game (with honorable mention to Lidstrom).

Great career for him, as underrated as it is.

Chilly_Willy
12-28-2010, 02:42 AM
Nice feather in the cap for sure. Congrats on 400 wins.

Hockeyis#1
12-28-2010, 01:52 PM
Ozzy stole that game for Detroit who was out shot, out worked, and out dived

Cornholio
01-01-2011, 10:47 AM
ugly game last night...

chgorman
01-08-2011, 03:51 PM
Stuart out 6-8 wks with a broken jaw from the Kostopoulos hit last night.

I'm guessing Kindl rejoins the lineup tonight. I'm looking forward to the gm but I'm not optimistic with Dats, Filp, Stuart, Cleary, etc out and Kindl in.

MrScientist
01-08-2011, 04:03 PM
Gotta think Janik gets called up if they have the cap space.

eykwingnut
01-08-2011, 05:29 PM
Stuart out 6-8 wks with a broken jaw from the Kostopoulos hit last night.

I'm guessing Kindl rejoins the lineup tonight. I'm looking forward to the gm but I'm not optimistic with Dats, Filp, Stuart, Cleary, etc out and Kindl in.
Right, back to back games with a depleted line-up... This one could get ugly fast...

Cornholio
01-08-2011, 06:14 PM
Osgood out as well, might need surgery
MacDonald will be called up from GR tomorrow.

Flip could return as early as friday

source: mlive.com

chgorman
01-08-2011, 07:08 PM
Osgood out as well, might need surgery
MacDonald will be called up from GR tomorrow.

Flip could return as early as friday

source: mlive.com

So who backs up Howard tonight?

MrScientist
01-08-2011, 07:21 PM
So who backs up Howard tonight?

Ozzy still.

eykwingnut
01-09-2011, 01:31 AM
Diving isn't a good strategy in net during a shootout so naturally Detroit won. :)

Seriously though, that game was freaking amazing. The Wings were much more physical than usual tonight, and I liked it!

chgorman
01-09-2011, 02:56 AM
Howard = MONEY!!

Great game tonight from both teams. Probably the best game I've watched all yr.

Cornholio
01-09-2011, 10:08 AM
Great game indeed, despite only 2 goals!
Very intense, physical, kinda playoff style :cool:

chgorman
01-09-2011, 02:11 PM
Right, back to back games with a depleted line-up... This one could get ugly fast...

I may have mentioned this before here, I know I've discussed it with my buddies, but it really pisses me off that EVERY time they have to play VAN in VAN, it's ALWAYS the 2nd gm of a back to back. For once, I wish they would go to VAN 1st and then play CGY or EDM on the 2nd night of the B2B, or at least have a day or two break before heading from EDM or CGY to VAN. I don't remember the last time DET played in VAN and it wasn't the 2nd gm of a B2B.

phaneuf6
01-09-2011, 03:08 PM
Wings looked tired, made a ton of uncharacteristic mistakes, Dats especially.

For once, I wish DET could get VAN in VAN when it's not the 2nd gm of a B2B. Seems like the y always play CGY or EDM the night before heading to VAN. Seems to happen with SJ a lot too, the seem to play LA or ANA the night before going to SJ. I'm sure its the same everywhere, but I still find it annoying. Why can't the Wings ever play VAN in VAN on the first night of a b2b, or better yet, with a day of rest?


I may have mentioned this before here, I know I've discussed it with my buddies, but it really pisses me off that EVERY time they have to play VAN in VAN, it's ALWAYS the 2nd gm of a back to back. For once, I wish they would go to VAN 1st and then play CGY or EDM on the 2nd night of the B2B, or at least have a day or two break before heading from EDM or CGY to VAN. I don't remember the last time DET played in VAN and it wasn't the 2nd gm of a B2B.


:lol: 2 pages ago in fact.

chgorman
01-09-2011, 09:19 PM
:lol: 2 pages ago in fact.

Haha, thx. Thought I had mentioned it here before.

chgorman
01-11-2011, 05:09 PM
How the FUCK do Zetts (6th in league scoring) and Rafalski (30 pts in 32 gms) NOT make the AS gm roster, but guys like Elias, Backes, Kessel, M.Staal and E.Karlsson do? the team that is 2nd place overall in the league only sends 1 player to the gm? I don't get it...

I realize the AS gm is a joke regardless, but still, WTF?

two24four
01-11-2011, 05:22 PM
How the FUCK do Zetts (6th in league scoring) and Rafalski (30 pts in 32 gms) NOT make the AS gm roster, but guys like Elias, Backes, Kessel, M.Staal and E.Karlsson do? the team that is 2nd place overall in the league only sends 1 player to the gm? I don't get it...

I realize the AS gm is a joke regardless, but still, WTF?

Alot of talk today that the Wings asked the NHL not to add a few players so they can rest up over the break, alot of the media on twitter have been talking about it today.

Kyle
01-11-2011, 05:28 PM
Cool with me

chgorman
01-11-2011, 05:58 PM
Alot of talk today that the Wings asked the NHL not to add a few players so they can rest up over the break, alot of the media on twitter have been talking about it today.

Fair enough, I guess if that's what actually happened then I don't really have a big problem with it, but it's still kinda silly.

How is the NHL spinning the fact that Ryan Miller was left of the roster? Same deal?

two24four
01-11-2011, 06:25 PM
Fair enough, I guess if that's what actually happened then I don't really have a big problem with it, but it's still kinda silly.

How is the NHL spinning the fact that Ryan Miller was left of the roster? Same deal?

No clue, the Sabres, Panthers, Isles and Coyotes all did not have one player make the ASG.

Luongo was also left off.

I say just shit can the ASG, it's a joke in the first place. I like the skills comp the night before way more.

phaneuf6
01-11-2011, 06:26 PM
That's the nature of having one player per team required at the game. A lot of players are going to get left off.

two24four
01-11-2011, 06:28 PM
That's the nature of having one player per team required at the game. A lot of players are going to get left off.

That's not the case this year though, Sabres, Panthers, Isles and Coyotes all dont have a player in the ASG, some have a rookie in the rookie thing they are doing, but not in the ASG it self.

chgorman
01-11-2011, 06:41 PM
Luongo was also left off.

Yeah, that's messed up too.


I say just shit can the ASG, it's a joke in the first place. I like the skills comp the night before way more.

Completely agree. Get rid of the game itself altogether (it's as useless as the Pro Bowl), have every team perform their own skills comp prior to All Star Wknd, competing in the exact same events they do at the ASG, send the winners of each event to the NHL skills competition and have them compete against the representatives from the other 29 teams. It would take a while to go through 30 players for each event, so make an afternoon/evening out of it, or make it a two day deal. At least that way we find out who truly has the hardest shot, who is truly the fastest skater, etc. I guarantee Helm would give St. Lou or Gaborik a run for their money as fastest skater, Ericsson would likely represent the Wings in the hardest shot comp (I think he won it in the AHL a few yrs ago), but we'll never see that happen because I doubt either of those two will ever make it to the ASG.

MrScientist
01-11-2011, 07:23 PM
Those teams have a rook in the skills competition which counts towards the quota.

two24four
01-11-2011, 10:03 PM
Those teams have a rook in the skills competition which counts towards the quota.

Never use to be like that till this year, every team had to have at least one player in the ASG, rookie game/skills comp did not matter.

MrScientist
01-14-2011, 09:53 PM
Bertuzzi's dangle was amazing, but close only counts in horseshoes and restraining orders

Jake
01-16-2011, 08:20 PM
Hudler has been quietly improving, he has 8 points in his past 10 games. With all of the injuries and more ice time I hope he rediscovers his game and confidence.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/3174/gamelog;_ylt=Arc1Aj3dfZYzkfQ2IjrsBk1ivLYF

chgorman
01-19-2011, 07:22 AM
I was only able to watch the 3rd period last night, so can somebody who watched the game from the start explain what happened in the 1st and 2nd? Cuz the Wings completely dominated the vast majority of the 3rd period. Were the Wings not playing well and then picked it up in the 3rd? Was PIT playing well for the 1st and 2nd and then backed of in the 3rd when they had the lead? Did PIT just get a couple flukey goals? Was Fleury standing on his head? After seeing that 3rd period by the Wings, I'm have a tough time figuring out how they lost the gm last night considering how dominant they were for the final 20 mins.

Gern Blansten
01-20-2011, 12:46 AM
It would appear that the Wings will get Dats and Cleary back right after the all-star break. Anyone care to hazard a guess on what the line combos will be?

phaneuf6
01-20-2011, 12:17 PM
Dreger and McKenzie both reporting Nabokov could be Detroit bound as soon as today.

chgorman
01-20-2011, 01:23 PM
Dreger and McKenzie both reporting Nabokov could be Detroit bound as soon as today.

Yep, it's on TSN.ca now - http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=350270

I hate this. Unless the guy signs for nothing, I think this is a bad idea, and that's assuming somebody else doesn't grab him via waivers after the Wings do all the work to sign him (see STL situation with regards to Svatos and Wellwood). He's a solid goalie, but he's proven that he can't get it done when it counts (i.e. in the playoffs), and I think it sends a bad message to Jimmy H.

The only way I like this for the Wings is if he signs for the minimum and is willing to be a backup for the most part. This is Jimmy's team now. they'd better not be signing Nabokov to start or even split starts, unless there's more to this story and Jimmy and Oz are injured more seriously than is being reported, which I doubt since Jimmy is slated to start tonight.

Doctego
01-20-2011, 01:32 PM
Yep, it's on TSN.ca now - http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=350270

I hate this. Unless the guy signs for nothing, I think this is a bad idea, and that's assuming somebody else doesn't grab him via waivers after the Wings do all the work to sign him (see STL situation with regards to Svatos and Wellwood). He's a solid goalie, but he's proven that he can't get it done when it counts (i.e. in the playoffs), and I think it sends a bad message to Jimmy H.

The only way I like this for the Wings is if he signs for the minimum and is willing to be a backup for the most part. This is Jimmy's team now. they'd better not be signing Nabokov to start or even split starts, unless there's more to this story and Jimmy and Oz are injured more seriously than is being reported, which I doubt since Jimmy is slated to start tonight.

Do you blame him or San Jose for their past issues?? I see Detroit as a much sounder team than San Jose ever was, including when they (SJ) were piling up President's trophies.

chgorman
01-20-2011, 01:44 PM
Do you blame him or San Jose for their past issues?? I see Detroit as a much sounder team than San Jose ever was, including when they (SJ) were piling up President's trophies.

I don't put all the blame on his shoulders as it's a team game, no doubt, but he has to take some of the blame. He puts up great #'s in the reg season and then seems to implode (along with the rest of the team) come playoff time. Look at his playoff #'s... aside from a couple great post-seasons, he's been mediocre at best, at least compared to his reg season stats. The SJ playoff collapses are by no means entirely his fault, no question, but he does deserve a bit of the blame. I'm not sure being on DET is going to make him a significantly better playoff goalie, but I've been wrong many many times before, so who knows.

MrScientist
01-20-2011, 02:22 PM
I think these teams are the biggest threats to claim Nabokov from Detroit (in waiver order): NY Islanders, Ottawa, Chicago, Washington, Tampa Bay.

chgorman
01-20-2011, 03:17 PM
What happens if DET signs him, another team claims him, but he refuses to play for another team? Is he legally obligated to to play for another team, or can his agent put the word out to other teams that he refuses to play anywhere else so that no other team claims him? TBH I wouldn't mind at all if another team claimed him, as I don't think the Wings need him at all, just curious more than anything.

Doctego
01-20-2011, 03:22 PM
What happens if DET signs him, another team claims him, but he refuses to play for another team? Is he legally obligated to to play for another team, or can his agent put the word out to other teams that he refuses to play anywhere else so that no other team claims him? TBH I wouldn't mind at all if another team claimed him, as I don't think the Wings need him at all, just curious more than anything.

I would think that he would go through waivers and, if he clears, he would be free to sign with any team. I don't see how Detroit or any other team could sign him unless they claimed him or he passed through.

phaneuf6
01-20-2011, 03:26 PM
I would think that he would go through waivers and, if he clears, he would be free to sign with any team. I don't see how Detroit or any other team could sign him unless they claimed him or he passed through.

He'll only go through waivers when he's signed by a time, similar to Wellwood and Svatos signing with St. Louis.

You can't claim someone who doesn't have a contract.

Spartan
01-20-2011, 03:49 PM
From what I read the deal would have to be multi-year possibly with a NTC. That is only way to discourage other teams from filing a claim. It would make sense though as the Osgood era is apparently over. Nabby could bridge until McCollum is ready.

szuturon
01-20-2011, 03:58 PM
So the plan is to play Nabby until the regular season and then play Howard in the playoffs?

Hamsterkill
01-20-2011, 05:34 PM
What happens if DET signs him, another team claims him, but he refuses to play for another team? Is he legally obligated to to play for another team, or can his agent put the word out to other teams that he refuses to play anywhere else so that no other team claims him? TBH I wouldn't mind at all if another team claimed him, as I don't think the Wings need him at all, just curious more than anything.

I think the player can probably refuse to play, but then he also doesn't get paid. Basically, I think the team that he refused to play for would just suspend him until he reported for work.

With that said, I don't think it all that likely he's that attached to any NHL club right now that he would refuse to play for whoever claimed him.

Spartan
01-20-2011, 10:25 PM
Sounds like he will sign but not clear waivers.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2011/01/red_wings_deal_with_evgeni_nab.html

two24four
01-20-2011, 10:32 PM
I read that the Red Wings are thinking about maybe working out a deal with NJ, seeing as NJ has the the 1st pick for players on waivers because they are last in the league, they would have NJ claim him, then send him to the Red Wings in some kind of deal.

Spartan
01-20-2011, 10:37 PM
And he's signed.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2011/01/red_wings_sign_goalie_evgeni_n.html

Jake
01-21-2011, 12:25 AM
I read that the Red Wings are thinking about maybe working out a deal with NJ, seeing as NJ has the the 1st pick for players on waivers because they are last in the league, they would have NJ claim him, then send him to the Red Wings in some kind of deal.

Somebody here said that you cant trade a guy during the year you pick him up off of waivers

canuckthug
01-21-2011, 01:35 AM
I think these teams are the biggest threats to claim Nabokov from Detroit (in waiver order): NY Islanders, Ottawa, Chicago, Washington, Tampa Bay.

Tampa Bay = wishful thinking. Somebody compiled a list of the teams and Tampa's gotta be far back onthe waiver wire.
I hope the Islanders get him! When Spartan posted "he signed", i thought the waiver process was officially over, ..and Nabokov was cleared to play as a Red Wing!!! The Red Wings have a good attitude about this, they are fairly certain he will get claimed.




How long is the waiver process?


Red Wings sign goalie Evgeni Nabokov to one-year deal, wait on waiver process.

The Detroit Red Wings signed veteran goaltender Evgeni Nabokov to a one-year, $570,000 contract on Thursday.

The contract includes a no-move clause and Nabaokov, who must clear waivers before joining the Red Wings, cannot be put back on waivers after Friday without his permission

edit, if i read the first article i woulda found it.. sometime around noon Saturday. should be an interesting Friday,

Red Wings general manager Ken Holland declined comment, saying, “He's nobody's player until noon on Saturday.''
Now they will wait to see if he officially becomes their property.

Hockeyis#1
01-21-2011, 06:55 AM
no chance to clear waivers.....but articles I've read said no NHL team offered him a contract after last season....I don't understand how that's possible.....but he can't clear waivers

Dubz
01-21-2011, 07:26 AM
no chance to clear waivers.....but articles I've read said no NHL team offered him a contract after last season....I don't understand how that's possible.....but he can't clear waivers

No team offered him a 6 million dollar contract. The guys a flopper and an injury concern. Whoever gets him will have over paid at league minimum. (im bitter cuz he was my starting goalie in a keeper.....he really not that bad:lol:)

Doctego
01-21-2011, 07:59 AM
I don't put all the blame on his shoulders as it's a team game, no doubt, but he has to take some of the blame. He puts up great #'s in the reg season and then seems to implode (along with the rest of the team) come playoff time. Look at his playoff #'s... aside from a couple great post-seasons, he's been mediocre at best, at least compared to his reg season stats. The SJ playoff collapses are by no means entirely his fault, no question, but he does deserve a bit of the blame. I'm not sure being on DET is going to make him a significantly better playoff goalie, but I've been wrong many many times before, so who knows.

Missed this before. His postseason stats are actually a C-hair better than his regular season stats. Very close but slightly better. While he has never carried a team on his back, he has also never folded up like a $2 suitcase.

MrScientist
01-21-2011, 08:57 AM
Tampa Bay = wishful thinking. Somebody compiled a list of the teams and Tampa's gotta be far back onthe waiver wire.
I hope the Islanders get him! When Spartan posted "he signed", i thought the waiver process was officially over, ..and Nabokov was cleared to play as a Red Wing!!! The Red Wings have a good attitude about this, they are fairly certain he will get claimed.


I posted teams who I thought would be most likely to claim him, in order of the waiver wire. I don't expect him to get there either.

redwingbill
01-21-2011, 02:52 PM
I wonder if Columbus would make a run at him? I know Mason's the golden boy and they have defensive deficiencies but it should be interesting. I hope he can some how stay with Detroit.

MrScientist
01-22-2011, 11:16 AM
I wonder if Columbus would make a run at him? I know Mason's the golden boy and they have defensive deficiencies but it should be interesting. I hope he can some how stay with Detroit.

Garon seems to be steady enough for them. I think Mason's long term confidence would be better than a short term playoff berth if Nabokov got them there.

canuckthug
01-22-2011, 12:39 PM
Islanders scooped up nabby. Good for them, they need a goalie. Have a feeling he will not report but we'll see.
Something about nabby on the Red Wings = scary. Western Conference breathes a sigh of relief.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=350550

Buckeye
01-22-2011, 03:23 PM
What makes you think he won't report? I am about to use a waiver priority on him

canuckthug
01-22-2011, 03:34 PM
What makes you think he won't report? I am about to use a waiver priority on him

He's Russian, I question if he will man up to a non-contender.

Using a waiver? I don't think i would use it at this point because he is going to the lowly Islanders. Nabby on a better team, perhaps. Having said that, he could turn things around their and the Isles have played better in the last month. Still, it depends on your waiver position and if you want to pull the trigger. But its better to go the fantasy section of this board, the "Nabby's coming back" thread will give you more in depth feedback/opinions/scenarios.

Buckeye
01-22-2011, 03:36 PM
But its better to go the fantasy section of this board, the "Nabby's coming back" thread will give you more in depth feedback/opinions/scenarios.

Cool. Thanks bro

chgorman
02-02-2011, 09:46 PM
Franzen with 5 tonight. Most of 'em pretty slick too.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
02-02-2011, 09:49 PM
Franzen with 5 tonight. Most of 'em pretty slick too.

Saw the box score a few mins ago. That's fucking crazy. :lol:

He is a great player though. :yes:

two24four
02-02-2011, 09:51 PM
What crazy, but fun game that was to watch tonight.

Howard did not look so good tonight.

Kyle
02-03-2011, 01:40 AM
Nope. Awful goaltending all around. Good for Franzen.

Sponge Bong Beer Pants
02-03-2011, 02:26 AM
Opinionated and most loyal Red Wings fans -- What is up with Howard anyway? Do you think he's lost a bit of confidence or is it just injuries making him look bad ? His GA & GAA are both up and his save % is down from just a year ago. I don't watch a ton of Wings games but his numbers look horribly inconsistent. Looking at it, he let up like 140 some goals in 60+ games last season and he has already let 100+ goals slip by him through 38 this year.

He's still got a bunch of wins and this is still one of the best teams in the league but are you guys worried about him or his future in net or just shaking it off as a bad stretch ?

Cornholio
02-03-2011, 05:17 AM
The fact that the Wings wanted to get Nabokov might be in the back of his mind...

Smith on waivers btw., anyone thinks Detroit will try to get him?