Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 61 to 90 of 128
  1. #61
    Senior Member First Liner RJV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Philadelphia PA
    Age
    42
    Posts
    1,389
    if I was a Pitt fan, I would be thoroughly embarrassed. Pittsburghs actions in game 3 were shockingly childish and uncharacteristic of a professional sports organization.

  2. #62
    King Nitbag Hall of Famer Doctego's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Central Jersey
    Age
    43
    Posts
    42,821
    Quote Originally Posted by RJV View Post
    if I was a Pitt fan, I would be thoroughly embarrassed. Pittsburghs actions in game 3 were shockingly childish and uncharacteristic of a professional sports organization.
    When you also consider Crosby's reputation (which many have defended) and Lemieux speaking out against the same actions that his team has been guilty of, it doesn't look good for them. Philly isn't without blame but I think that Pittsburgh has clearly been the douchier team in this series. I also understand (but don't condone) the aggression because many teams would do the same when they are threatened with going down 3-0. That said, the thing that really disgusted me was the bullshit that Crosby pulled when Giroux was trying to pick up the glove and Crosby moved it with his stick. That is baby shit to the extreme.


  3. #63
    Senior Member Hall of Famer chgorman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Ontario, Canada
    Age
    35
    Posts
    11,381
    Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Would not be upset at all to see PIT and VAN swept in the first round.

  4. #64
    Senior Member All-Star
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    9,331
    In both team's defense, though, they'll likely return as the best in their conferences next season and fight eachother for the presidents again

    They just need to dust off this postseason's miserable failure and move on. Red Wings suffered that first round defeat against Anahiem and everyone said the mighty fell then too. We were right back next year. An occasionally embarrassing run is inevitable when you're in the playoffs every year.

    That small dosage of humility aside, FUCK YES its nice to see these two get smoked! More specifically its damn nice to see all the little things us Wings fans (and other fanbases closely tied to the Penguins like rangers/Flyers) have complained about for years from Crosby and gang come to light in full force. No more "Oh people just hate Crosby to hate." Nice that we can all establish that we can't stand the kid cause hes a classless fuckin douche!

    Now all Ovechkin needs to do is become a worthwhile hockey player again and he can steal some personal momentum back this postseason. At least until Crosby doubles his point total next season.
    Last edited by Kyle; 04-16-2012 at 10:39 AM.

  5. #65
    Senior Member All-Star Gern Blansten's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    2,909
    Quasi-related, but hilarious. Trending nationally on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23pulledacrosby

    "Burned the pop tart this morning so I pulled a Crosby and smashed all of my wife's porcelain in the fireplace."

  6. #66
    Senior Member All-Star
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    9,331
    Hahahahha

  7. #67
    California Dreamer Hall of Famer Sponge Bong Beer Pants's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Bay Area
    Age
    33
    Posts
    11,914
    I hope Sid and company learn from this debacle. As a fan, it really fucking sucks seeing your team behaving in such a way. I could take the Pens going down 3-0, being swept, but what's hard to take is watching them act like little bitches and lose without their dignity and class in tact.

    I can't argue that the Pens have def. been the douchier club this series but the Flyers are not without blame this year and in years past. Everybody jumps on the current train, short memories, yadda yadda. And the Pens yesterday so politely offered the haters plenty of fuel for that fire. So Adams pulled Harnell's girly hair. That hippie needs a haircut. Remember when Hartnell bit Kris Letang? Briere laid a nasty knee to Gonchar, Richards elbowed Fleury. Etc. Etc. I am in NO way condoning what Pittsburgh did yesterday. I'm ashamed. I spent an hour trying to explain to my gf what was going on and found myself having to defend the sport as a whole b/c of the ridiculous antics yesterday... But I mean if you examine the grudge battles between these two clubs over the years you can compile a disgustedly impressive list of dirty/ugly/cheap shot douchery on all fronts.

    This round of asshole just happens to belong to the Pens. In a sense, roles have been switched up here. And props to the Flyers for being a more focused/disciplined group this year, something they in part probably owe to Pittsburgh 07/08 08/09 teams which sent Philly golfing after a 5 game ECF and a 6 game quarterfinals showdown.

    Flyers were due & I think they finally have the makeup to win the Stanley Cup. Now excuse me while I go throw up.
    Last edited by Sponge Bong Beer Pants; 04-16-2012 at 03:56 PM.



  8. #68
    Senior Member All-Star canuckthug's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Winnipeg, Canada
    Posts
    2,474
    The Penguins look rattled/outmatched. "You can't beat us!" Its surprising to see Crosby getting caught up in all the after whistle nonsense after he said he wasn't going to do that anymore. If Crosby gets in a fight (that he initiates), he could end up getting concussed again and you can see the Flyers don't want it to go there. Crosby needs to focus on what he does best or he could be signing early retirement papers. I was never sold on Pittsburgh's defense but Fleury is bailing nobody out and looking horrible. Claude Giroux is playing > Crosby and like Keyboard said, Malkin has been a no-show.

  9. #69
    Senior Member First Liner Snipes16's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Boston
    Age
    50
    Posts
    1,908
    All the riff raff aside, you really do have to give Paul Holmgren a ton of credit for re creating the makeup of that club after getting broomed last year. It took balls to deal Richards but in order to afford Bryz he had to do it. Jagr has turned out to be a good move. Schenn is starting to look like the goods. Couturiere landed in his lap I believe at # 8 last year and Read has been excellent as well. Good drafting and solid FA moves have them looking legit as contenders.

    I've gotta eat some humble pie with the Pens too. There were chinks in the armour going down the stretch with this club. The B2B losses to the Isles should have been a tipoff that this team was headed in the wrong direction because Fleury played in those 2 games like he's looked in this series which is dreadful. I'd have yanked him after Philly's first goal yesterday which was as bad a goal as you'll ever see.

    These games vs Philly have taken on a pattern of Pittsburgh getting an early lead with Philly just stalking them. As the games go on the ice just opens up in Philly's favor especially in the neutral zone where there is no noticeable D being played. Should have known better that both of Paul Martin and Matt Niskanen would be playing way too minutes for that club to win it all.


  10. #70
    Senior Member All-Star
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    9,331
    Sponge, the Penguins this year are definitely not the dirtiest team of all time or anything remotely close. I'd say the Penguins now are only as bad as the Flyers were in just 2009. Really, Flyers carried this exact reputation with them for damn year 30 years prior to that. You can shake off this rep quickly. Much like everybody forgot about Cooke after a clean year, people will forget about this.

    Or the Penguins keep it up into next season and become indisputably sport's most hated franchise. Because every dirty hit they land next season will be amplified tenfold. I think the better chances are the Penguins clean up their rep next year.

  11. #71
    Senior Member All-Star
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    9,331
    Quote Originally Posted by Snipes16 View Post
    All the riff raff aside, you really do have to give Paul Holmgren a ton of credit for re creating the makeup of that club after getting broomed last year. It took balls to deal Richards but in order to afford Bryz he had to do it. Jagr has turned out to be a good move. Schenn is starting to look like the goods. Couturiere landed in his lap I believe at # 8 last year and Read has been excellent as well. Good drafting and solid FA moves have them looking legit as contenders.

    I've gotta eat some humble pie with the Pens too. There were chinks in the armour going down the stretch with this club. The B2B losses to the Isles should have been a tipoff that this team was headed in the wrong direction because Fleury played in those 2 games like he's looked in this series which is dreadful. I'd have yanked him after Philly's first goal yesterday which was as bad a goal as you'll ever see.

    These games vs Philly have taken on a pattern of Pittsburgh getting an early lead with Philly just stalking them. As the games go on the ice just opens up in Philly's favor especially in the neutral zone where there is no noticeable D being played. Should have known better that both of Paul Martin and Matt Niskanen would be playing way too minutes for that club to win it all.
    This is why I was never quite entirely sold on how "stacked" the Penguin's four lines are. Sure when Crosby and Malkin are on 150 point pace, but there are a few really awful players on that front 12, who can give the team a horribly inconsistent look that creates "gaps" in the games when certain players need rest (Or they don't rest and simply get over-fatigued and outskated like Malkin has been), and those gaps are incredibly opportune moments for the other team.

    Defensively, Pens lack their reliable guy. Hal Gill is a phenomenal penalty killing specialist but he is not a phenomenal 5on5 shutdown D-man. They have no true shutdown guy in a 5on5 situation. No Pronger for Penguins, Hell, not even a Timonen. This team has glaring holes, offensive explosions weren't going to carry them vs a team equally stacked up front. Philly matches Pittsburgh with superior forward talent and dramatically better defense/goaltending. This year aside, Bryzgalov is a goaltender in another league than Fleury will ever reach. Hes looked human this year but so have Ryan Miller and Tim Thomas in recent years past. Philly is just better.

    And thats without Pronger. The Penguins not only would've looked like worthless pussies trying this classless nonsense against Prongers massive self (Who would've been on the ice for 30+ minutes a game and every time Crosby was out on the ice. His pussywhipped self wouldn't have pushed that glove with Pronger around, for damn sure.

  12. #72
    Geek Extraordinaire Hall of Famer Hamsterkill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Frederick MD
    Age
    30
    Posts
    11,528
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    Defensively, Pens lack their reliable guy. Hal Gill is a phenomenal penalty killing specialist but he is not a phenomenal 5on5 shutdown D-man. They have no true shutdown guy in a 5on5 situation. .
    Why are we bringing a Predators D-man into this discussion?

    The Pens' shutdown guys are Orpik and Michalek -- both of which are generally able to accomplish both 5-on-5 and PK shutdown responsibility.

    You will never get me to buy that the Flyers are a better team than the Pens. They've outplayed the Pens in the series to be sure, but that should not be happening. The Pens are a much stronger and deeper team than the shitstorm that's been on display the last week. Almost every analyst alive wasn't high when they picked the Pens to win this series.

    As for Fleury vs Bryz, that's not an argument I'm going to get into. Suffice to say I haven't seen Fleury play this badly for this long since 2006.

    The Pens are the better team. They just seem to have forgotten that in this series.
    Curse of the Hamster
    My first round draft picks:





  13. #73
    Senior Member All-Star
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    9,331
    Huge brain fart! Let myself think he was still on the Pens for a second.

    The Flyers outplayed the Pens all year. Don't know what you've been smoking but they whooped you all year. You went 1-4 against them, discounting your regular season ending victory that was entirely worthless and trivial for both sides. Thats an 8 game sample size this last year the Flyers have dominated 7-1 and scored unheard of amounts of goals.

    That shutdown pair is mediocre at best by today's NHL standards. I don't exactly think top forwards are shaking in their skates as they approach them. If you don't have that dominant 30-minute total shutdown guy (Pronger, Chara, younger Lidstrom) you at least need the quality blueline depth to back it up. The Penguins don't have the blue-line depth and don't have that dominant guy (or two) on the top pair to compensate.

    As for Fleury vs bryz, its an argument nobody should get into because its the stupidest fucking argument capable of going down in hockey right now. Fleury is no all star goaltender, he is not one of the tops in this league. He is middle of the pack in one of the most competitive eras (If not easily THE most) for goaltenders in NHL history. Bryzgalov, in this ultra competitive era, was the NHLs best goaltender the previous two seasons. To sit there and even utter him in the same sentence as Fleury is horribly insulting because at his WORST this year, Bryzgalov was as good as Fleury has ever been at his best. If you don't want to talk now because Fleury has been so bad lately, how about last year? Or the year before that? Fleury wasn't any better, and Bryzgalov was incredible and off the charts both seasons. Honestly, Fleury has been "Hardly average at best" for the last 3 years excluding one fantastic stretch during injuries (And even then he managed to drag his numbers down to mediocre by year's end).

    And according to analysts and Penguin's faithful, this actually was Fleury's most positive season going into the playoffs, easily. Everyone has quietly said he might be the real Penguins MVP all year while Malkin was dominating. And really it was still nothing more than a very average regular season and its culminated into a disastrous playoff run. Fleury and Bryzgalov in the same sentence is something you'll never get me to buy.

    Anyway, back to business. Pens are a better team? They just forgot it? They were outplayed by the Flyers from season's beginning to season's end. You're sitting there and acknowledging the defensive skill of these losers, calling them the "Clearly better team" over the Flyers, when they've lost 7-1 over the last 8 games against them?

    Now the fun part...The "superior" Penguins with their unmatched forward depth and all star goalies, allowed FORTY GOALS over those 8 games. 5 goals a game over an 8 game sample size in less than one total fucking year? Thats unheard of, virtually impossible really. You have to try to be a bunch of defensively irresponsible losers to fail time and time again to figure out anything productive against a team continually beating you (The only team regularly beating you, really. Oh, forgot the Islanders), and actually instead to get worse and worse, and collapse for even MORE goals allowed in the later 3 games than you did the first 5. Somehow the Flyers are the ones who figured out more about the Pens, even after they beat them over and over (Typically a loss is supposed to teach you much more than a win). 40 goals over 8 games was amazing by 1980's Oilers standards, virtually doesn't happen now.

    Sorry, but I think it is the absolute supreme arrogant joke of the hockey world to sit there and have the balls to say this Penguins team is in any remote way better than this Flyers team. Really its incredibly arrogant to not simply acknowledge this Flyers team is actually much better because they have been all season. When you dominate the season series and then dominate the playoff series worse, you have to accept it for what it is.

    I had no issue admitting the Wings got outclassed by SJ last year and the year before. Even said before game 7 we were lucky to be here (Thanks mainly to Howard and some incredibly aggressive third periods in games we didn't quite deserve). Swallow your humble pie and acknowledge a hockey club that is simply better than the one you cheer for and has proved it beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Vancouver has a chance vs LA. The Penguins are so done the NHL would be wise to just end the series now and avoid a potential blood bath.
    Last edited by Kyle; 04-16-2012 at 08:08 PM.

  14. #74
    Geek Extraordinaire Hall of Famer Hamsterkill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Frederick MD
    Age
    30
    Posts
    11,528
    1. Don't put quotes around something that's not actually a quote.

    2. Perhaps I'm just not as susceptible to radical changes in my opinion of teams and players based on one week of play. You did, after all, originally pick the Pens to win this series as well. And you also had the gall to suggest that the "NHLs best goaltender the previous two seasons" (proper use of quotes) had not even earned the right to be Philly's clear playoff starter before this series.

    Pardon me if I don't give your opinion of the teams involved more credence than my own.
    Curse of the Hamster
    My first round draft picks:





  15. #75
    Senior Member All-Star
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    9,331
    I disputed the ridiculous notion that Philly is required by loyalty to remain with Bryz regardless how shitty he may be. That has nothing to do with my thoughts on his quality as a player, I simply disagreed that he had the right to play as bad as he wanted. Especially when he was an attitude issue earlier in the year when he hit a rough stretch. Really not seeing what relevance any of this has to Bryzgalov being in another league than Fleury.

    Call the Penguins better than the Flyers (I won't call this ridiculous, I'll put it nicer and say 0% of the world outside Penguins fans believes this), but comparing Fleury to Bryzgalov is never anything but stupid.

  16. #76
    Geek Extraordinaire Hall of Famer Hamsterkill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Frederick MD
    Age
    30
    Posts
    11,528
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    I disputed the ridiculous notion that Philly is required by loyalty to remain with Bryz regardless how shitty he may be.
    If that's what you thought I was trying to say, you have a terribly low opinion of my hockey knowledge. I don't even know how anyone could get that idea.

    If Howard shits the bed in a playoff game and gives up 8 goals, do you start Joey Mac for the next one? Because I would expect a Wings fan to say "No, Howard gives us the best chance to win on any given night, regardless of his play last game." I was saying Bryz is in the same situation. Nothing at all to do some notion of 'loyalty' and frankly I'm fairly dubious you ever really thought I meant that.
    Curse of the Hamster
    My first round draft picks:





  17. #77
    Senior Member All-Star
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Posts
    9,331
    Hamster, I couldn't respect your opinion on hockey more. I don't talk classy enough when I'm hating on- I mean- discussing the Penguins, I'll touch it up

    "Required by loyalty" was what I quickly typed in a rushed reply. My point was I was more focused on the issue of him being replaced than his quality as a goaltender when I addressed that. "Required by loyalty" was not what I interpreted from your point. What I interpreted was, because of Bryzgalov's statu, you simply couldn't disrespect him or hurt his confidence no matter how bad he might play. It seems I still misunderstood you, but the loyalty bit was really out of thin air.

    That said, still don't agree. Bobs had an 11 game stretch in 2 months midway through the year of 3 or less goals allowed per game and only 21 goals allowed total, went 8-3 and had an amazing sv%. Then they sat him for two weeks and he never really came back in form and just trudged his way to a bad season statistically. But I think the Flyers would be more than willing to try him if Bryzgalov was the scapegoat in a few losses.

    No one expected Osgood to replace Hasek in 08, especially after Hasek started with two great games. But it only took 1 bad game and half of another bad game for the Wings to wisely give their backup a chance. He shut the door for 30 minutes, they gave him a chance to do so for 60 next game, he did, and we had a new starting goalie. Bobs is no worse than Osgood (Ozzy might've been considered among the worst in the league at the time honestly) and Bryz no better than Hasek.

    To reply to the scenario you proposed with Howard, I don't think that at all actually. Yes hes more of our franchise goalie than we've had in 20 years, but if he shits a break and Joey Mac plays superbly to finish out a game, the job in the playoffs would be Joey Mac's until he played bad enough to justify replacing. Unless you really think they would never give Joey Mac the chance and to that I just have to laugh because the Wings aren't that organization. They play the best goalie for them now, as should anybody. We let Joey Mac start numerous games over a healthy Howard around the end of the home winning streak ( a little later even) when Howard wasn't quite on top of his game upon returning. Some players hit a rut or find a rare stride, you have to be willing to adapt. I do believe Howard would be harder to bench than Hasek was (Loyalty does exist and Howard is earning it) but I'm rather sure it would happen if he played awful. Thankfully we've never had to see a bad Howard in the playoffs.

    If we were losing 0-3 to SJ last year because of Howard, I assure you he would've been gone. He stayed in because he played well, really in nearly all 7 games. We haven't had a goalie to blame for a loss in a very, very long time.
    Last edited by Kyle; 04-17-2012 at 01:20 AM.

  18. #78
    Informative Asshole Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    15,032
    Quote Originally Posted by Snipes16 View Post
    I've gotta eat some humble pie with the Pens too. There were chinks in the armour going down the stretch with this club.
    Richard Park and I think your comment was racist.
    12 Team H2H PPR Keeper Money League

  19. #79
    Ajde Anci!! All-Star mrtybrodur30's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Bay Area, CA
    Age
    29
    Posts
    3,142
    Quote Originally Posted by keyboard View Post
    Richard Park and I think your comment was racist.

  20. #80
    California Dreamer Hall of Famer Sponge Bong Beer Pants's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Bay Area
    Age
    33
    Posts
    11,914
    Neal gets 1 game, Asham 4. The wheel of justice has spoken.



  21. #81
    California Dreamer Hall of Famer Sponge Bong Beer Pants's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Bay Area
    Age
    33
    Posts
    11,914
    cowardly-penguin-590x581.jpg

    Cover of the Daily news this morning. Make sure you check out the Pens/Flyers preview on pages 70-66

    Sweep or no sweep, tomorrows game is must see reality television.



  22. #82
    King Nitbag Hall of Famer Doctego's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Central Jersey
    Age
    43
    Posts
    42,821
    You got a free link?


  23. #83
    Season Ticket Holder Hall of Famer Dubz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Windsor,ON
    Age
    43
    Posts
    10,454
    Thats horrible press imo. Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Guess they cant sell newspapers anymore so they are all turning into the daily inquirer.
    http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx202/sdubzz/habs.jpg

  24. #84
    Geek Extraordinaire Hall of Famer Hamsterkill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Frederick MD
    Age
    30
    Posts
    11,528
    Quote Originally Posted by Dubz View Post
    Thats horrible press imo. Just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Guess they cant sell newspapers anymore so they are all turning into the daily inquirer.
    It was already like Daily Inquirer. I don't what it's like in Canada, but there's no tabloids in the US that have journalistic credibility. That isn't the Philly newspaper (which ironically is called the Philadelphia Inquirer).
    Last edited by Hamsterkill; 04-18-2012 at 02:35 PM.
    Curse of the Hamster
    My first round draft picks:





  25. #85
    California Dreamer Hall of Famer Sponge Bong Beer Pants's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Bay Area
    Age
    33
    Posts
    11,914
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctego View Post
    You got a free link?
    Digital copy -

    http://phillydailynews.newspaperdire...er/viewer.aspx



  26. #86
    California Dreamer Hall of Famer Sponge Bong Beer Pants's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Bay Area
    Age
    33
    Posts
    11,914
    Pens in 7!




  27. #87
    I'm Old Gregg! All-Star fancy19's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Halifax, Nova Scotia
    Posts
    2,405
    well, I can't wait to see the final score of this game if this keeps going LOL


    TEAM #1
    10 team roto yahoo, unlimited moves/trades
    G,A,P,+/-,PIM,PPP,SOG-W,GAA,SV%,SHO

  28. #88
    California Dreamer Hall of Famer Sponge Bong Beer Pants's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Bay Area
    Age
    33
    Posts
    11,914
    This series has been nothing short of bonkers



  29. #89
    California Dreamer Hall of Famer Sponge Bong Beer Pants's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Bay Area
    Age
    33
    Posts
    11,914
    We should pull both goaltenders and just use these

    51PxcXPAXSL._SL500_AA300_.jpg



  30. #90
    Go Bolts Hall of Famer dw13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    11,479
    What a stupid series



Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •