Moderating in the NHL Forum...

[CanucksFan]

Just a heads up, there's a ton of stuff clogging up the NHL forum that in the past has been removed alot quicker. All kinds of trivial fantasy related things are popping up all over the place due to all the new members.

Maybe it's time to get another mod in there to clean it up and keep an eye on things?

[ih8music]

sounds like a volunteer!

[Spartan]

Just a heads up, there's a ton of stuff clogging up the NHL forum that in the past has been removed alot quicker. All kinds of trivial fantasy related things are popping up all over the place due to all the new members.

Maybe it's time to get another mod in there to clean it up and keep an eye on things?Specifically what? The NHL Forum has threads going back to 10/6 on the first page. Not exactly clogged.

[CanucksFan]

http://forums.hockeyinformer.com/showthread.php?t=55112

http://forums.hockeyinformer.com/showthread.php?t=55124

http://forums.hockeyinformer.com/showthread.php?t=55117

Things like that.

[Spartan]

I believe that all of those originated in the fantasy forum and were booted to NHL discussion because they were not fantasy issues. Now I agree that those topics are barely discussion worthy but do answer questions to those who wanted to know. Ideally threads specific to each team could better contain such threads. That approach has served the football forum well and should be considered in the NHL as well. We need to keep things tidy but make sure people get their questions noticed as well.

[Farmerbob42]

why'd the canucks thread get deleted.... ?

[Spartan]

why'd the canucks thread get deleted.... ?The official Canucks thread is still there. Feel free to bump or start a freshy for 08'.

[Sponge Bong Beer Pants]

yeah just do a search and type in Canucks and I am almost certain it will pop up. After so much time or inactivity, threads seem to be pushed off the main 1,2,3, pages.. but if you do a search they are still technically there. I and other users had that same issue in the off topic forum in regards to the tv links thread. A simple search and I was able to bring it back up to the main 2 pages.

Honestly, the NHL forum doesn't seem to clogged to me, but I do agree, we should all actively try to work towards keeping team information in pertinent team threads. They really do come in handy and users who are interested in particular divisons/teams are bound to keep checking and posting to the same threads. (Detroit/Leafs/Atlantic division threads, etc..)

Mods are good for clearing up garbage and moving threads etc etc... but we all need to be mindful of threads we are posting, and of course, WHERE we are posting them.

[Farmerbob42]

ah, yes i got it going again. cos theres only 2 pages for nhl talk i thought it was deleted or a bunch got cleaned out.

[Spartan]

Alright, I went ahead and cleaned up the first page of the NHL forum. I took the minor news threads and renamed them to the team name. Please use these threads to discuss minor team issues. If a thread does not exist for the team you are inquiring for, make a new one (just the team name). Take a look at the NFL forum for an example. Please continue to discuss major issues in their own thread.

[nyrblue2]

yeah just do a search and type in Canucks and I am almost certain it will pop up. After so much time or inactivity, threads seem to be pushed off the main 1,2,3, pages.. but if you do a search they are still technically there. I and other users had that same issue in the off topic forum in regards to the tv links thread. A simple search and I was able to bring it back up to the main 2 pages.

ah, yes i got it going again. cos theres only 2 pages for nhl talk i thought it was deleted or a bunch got cleaned out.
If you look at the bottom of any forum, there is a pull down menu called "From the" and then your option are last month (default), last 2 months, beginning, etc.

[Sponge Bong Beer Pants]

If you look at the bottom of any forum, there is a pull down menu called "From the" and then your option are last month (default), last 2 months, beginning, etc.

Right :yes: An excellent alternative to using the search feature. Depends on preference. I prefer the search function because it's a little bit quicker for me than scanning through a bunch of old threads.

[b_illin]

But what if I want to post in the unofficial team forums? :D

[Sponge Bong Beer Pants]

There have been some comments and PM's sent my way regarding the NHL forum and individual team threads popping up again. We need some input here by both mods and users. Personally speaking, I am for divisional threads over team specific and individualized threads. (Minus the long standing Leafs/Wings/Canucks threads). But in example, I really don't see the need for a Columbus Bluejackets thread or separate threads for the Washington Capitals, Carolina Hurricanes, TB Lightning etc etc...

Last year this issue came up after I personally started the Pittsburgh Penguins thread, and after discussion, we opted to let one of the mods rename the Pittsburgh Penguins thread into the Atlantic Division thread, to keep from Flyers/Rangers/etc threads popping up and cluttering up the forum with 30 some threads.

In my opinion this has worked out real nicely. It took nothing away from myself or other Pens fans who like to gab back and forth about the team and it also gives Flyers fans and Rangers/Devils fans a place to discuss their own loser team happenings ;) And obviously, it allows divisional foes a place to talk friendly shit to each other and update pertinent team information.

So Basically, before it spirals out of control again, I am wondering what is the general consensus from you guys on Divisional threads Vs Team threads? I know there is somewhat of a preference due to the PM's in my inbox, so I am asking, as a community in the NHL forum, do we want to try to stick to strictly divisional related threads to cut back on clutter, or allow team threads to pop up freely, the way they do in the less often used NFL forum?

[nyrblue2]

I like the divisional threads, personally...

[WIS]

If you look at the bottom of any forum, there is a pull down menu called "From the" and then your option are last month (default), last 2 months, beginning, etc.

I may be blind but I do not see this option.

[Sponge Bong Beer Pants]

I may be blind but I do not see this option.

yeah Pete, you are. :p Go to the main page of whatever forum you want, scroll all the way down, and on the left hand side, under Display Options, you should see sorted by, and directly under it, the "From" option that was suggested.

[WIS]

yeah Pete, you are. :p Go to the main page of whatever forum you want, scroll all the way down, and on the left hand side, under Display Options, you should see sorted by, and directly under it, the "From" option that was suggested.
For example, in this forum I went to the main page and the only drop down menu I see is the themes menu :hic:

[Motorcat]

Of course I am going to favor the divisional threads - I was the one who made the changes last year.

I actually look forward to when we are large/busy enough to have sub forums for each team but for now the divisional thread seem to fit the bill.

[Sponge Bong Beer Pants]

For example, in this forum I went to the main page and the only drop down menu I see is the themes menu :hic:

Pete, :confused: it should be just left of the currently active users, in the same display box... directly to the left. It's there, I swear it! You should see an option of "sorted by" and right below it "from the" with little drop down boxes next to each.

[nyrblue2]

For example, in this forum I went to the main page and the only drop down menu I see is the themes menu :hic:
It's not all the way at the bottom. It's in an area just under the threads titled "display options".

[Hamsterkill]

For example, in this forum I went to the main page and the only drop down menu I see is the themes menu :hic:

Here you go Pete.

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh309/Hamsterkill/forPete.jpg

[WIS]

:dunce:Pete, :confused: it should be just left of the currently active users, in the same display box... directly to the left. It's there, I swear it! You should see an option of "sorted by" and right below it "from the" with little drop down boxes next to each.

It's not all the way at the bottom. It's in an area just under the threads titled "display options".

Here you go Pete.

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh309/Hamsterkill/forPete.jpg
This helps :p
See you sportin' the chrome very nice! What kind of theme is that?

[Hamsterkill]

:dunce:




This helps :p
See you sportin' the chrome very nice! What kind of theme is that?

Firefox theme for Chrome.

http://www.chromeplugins.org/themes/google-chrome-theme-firefox-3/

[WIS]

Firefox theme for Chrome.

http://www.chromeplugins.org/themes/google-chrome-theme-firefox-3/
:yes: shweet. Thanks for this!
So it doesn't lag the browser or anything? I noticed when I started adding on stuff for FF3 it would lag the browser and I don't want to mess with an already fast Chrome. Know what I mean?

[Hamsterkill]

It shouldn't affect the speed of the browser at all.

[Hamsterkill]

Back to topic, I also like the divisional thread setup better. Having 30 team threads for the NHL just seems overkill.

[Lucca Brazzi]

;)I guess divisional threads are OK, especially for those fan starved teams.
I don't think that the Fantasy section has reached problem status yet, sometimes I think there is less going on than last year, which was absolutely cluttered. This is probably due to good mod work.
Cheers:beer:

[secol]

maybe divisional sub forums?.....I dunno

EDIT: it would allow for individual threads for important things and discussion for fans in sub forums

[Spartan]

I think both are appropriate, but minor news and fan chatter should be in individual team threads. First off we are not short on room the problem is housekeeping and putting information into areas that can be found easily. If I am curious about specific information on the Blue Jackets I don't want to sift through the chatter of a divisional thread containing four other teams which may well be more popular. A five team thread has too much going on to make sense other than running some smack talk against your rivals.

I've said it before, the football forum here has team threads and it works great. Major issues still get their own threads but minor stuff goes into team threads and can be found later. This is a hockey site with plenty of traffic, there is really no reason not to have NHL team threads.

[two24four]

I think both are appropriate, but minor news and fan chatter should be in individual team threads. First off we are not short on room the problem is housekeeping and putting information into areas that can be found easily. If I am curious about specific information on the Blue Jackets I don't want to sift through the chatter of a divisional thread containing four other teams which may well be more popular. A five team thread has too much going on to make sense other than running some smack talk against your rivals.

I've said it before, the football forum here has team threads and it works great. Major issues still get their own threads but minor stuff goes into team threads and can be found later. This is a hockey site with plenty of traffic, there is really no reason not to have NHL team threads.

I agree with this, individual team threads are much better IMO, it would take for ever to find something out about a team like say the Sabres with all the Leafs, Habs, BOS and Sens fans here, if it was all divisional forums only.

[looch17]

I agree with this, individual team threads are much better IMO, it would take for ever to find something out about a team like say the Sabres with all the Leafs, Habs and Sens fans here, if it was all divisional forums only.I agree. I vote to keep the team threads so it will be easier to find.

[b_illin]

Yeah, I say just leave the team threads - the ones that rarely see posts just fade away anyway and ppl can do a simple search if they want to find it again (I did this the other day with the Cowboys thread).

Frankly, it is a bit silly to have a Blue Jackets thread (1 fan that I know of...and I haven't seen him in months) or a Thrashers thread (no fans that I know of), but I agree with Spartan that a divisional thread kinda blows for fans of teams in those divisions.

All I know is I am a Leafer and we have the most post of any thread (by a lot;)) so I'm sure my team will have it's own thread either way :D:D:D:D:D

[CanucksFan]

Meh, I'm leaning more towards divisional (maybe an exception can be made for the more "popular" teams in the forum ie. Wings, Canucks, Leafs). It's weird seeing an Atlanta Thrashers thread when there may be three posts in there all year.

[keyboard]

Meh, I'm leaning more towards divisional (maybe an exception can be made for the more "popular" teams in the forum ie. Wings, Canucks, Leafs). It's weird seeing an Atlanta Thrashers thread when there may be three posts in there all year.If there were only 3 posts it wouldn't stay on the main page and you wouldn't see it.

[chgorman]

I like the indivudual team thread idea, as - as others have mentioned - any team threads that don't see a lot of activity will simply fall off the first page into oblivion.

As long as new (insert less popular team name here) team threads aren't started everytime the original thread falls off the first page, it shouldn't be a problem, but I could see, say, the Thrashers thread falling off the first page pretty quickly, and then having some newb start a new one because he/she didn't bother or didn't know to search for the old one, and then we end up with multiple 'team' threads for the less popular teams as their threads fall off the first page. edit: nvmd, completely forgot that mods could merge the threads if multiple threads were started for one team. /edit

I think if we were to go to individual team threads, there would have to be a sticky posted explaining how the threads should be used, what they should be used for, how to search for a team thread that you may be looking for that may have fallen off the first page, etc.

[Sponge Bong Beer Pants]

Thanks for all the input guys :yes: Seems a little mixed here but despite some of our preference for strictly divisional threads, there are some valid reasons as to why certain teams should have their own threads. Ya greedy fucks. So we'll just roll with things as is. A few team threads, a few divisional threads. Diversity is the spice of life and all that. As mods we'll just try to keep excessive threads as cleaned up and merged together as possible and as mentioned, teams like the Blue Jackets are likely to just slip off into the abyss anyway.. so no more PM in my inbox bitching about team threads okay :)

[Hamsterkill]

But then what will we bitch about to you, Sponge? Heheh.

[corky]

wasnt sure where i could post this....but mods, when am i eligible to get my thread starting priviledges back?

[nyihater4life]

I agree with this, individual team threads are much better IMO, it would take for ever to find something out about a team like say the Sabres with all the Leafs, Habs, BOS and Sens fans here, if it was all divisional forums only.

Exactly why we need divisional threads... the Buffalo thread would get pushed down to page 2 and beyond because with all the news and shit that gets posted.

I like divisional threads better

[WIS]

wasnt sure where i could post this....but mods, when am i eligible to get my thread starting priviledges back?
I never even knew that this was a possibility!
:beer:

[corky]

o, seriously? all right..

[nyrblue2]

I never even knew that this was a possibility!
:beer:
Me either. I was wondering why the fantasy forum seemed a bit more empty lately, lol.

[two24four]

Exactly why we need divisional threads... the Buffalo thread would get pushed down to page 2 and beyond because with all the news and shit that gets posted.

I like divisional threads better

I just dont agree with that, like I said before, that would mean for someone who's looking for something on say Buffalo, they might have to go through 100's of pages before they find something with all the Leafs, Habs, Sens, and B's fans around here, if not even more pages.

[chgorman]

Exactly why we need divisional threads... the Buffalo thread would get pushed down to page 2 and beyond because with all the news and shit that gets posted.

I like divisional threads better

I just dont agree with that, like I said before, that would mean for someone who's looking for something on say Buffalo, they might have to go through 100's of pages before they find something with all the Leafs, Habs, Sens, and B's fans around here, if not even more pages.

Completely agree with ya 24. It's MUCH much easier to do a simple search for a Sabres individual team thread then it is to sort through 200 pgs of individual posts about TOR/BOS/MTL/OTT stuff just to find news on the Sabres.

Plus, there'd be like 10 different conversations going on at the same time in a divisional thread like that (at least for the divisions that have the most fans here), and it could get pretty confusing to follow along with when the post you quote was two pages ago because there's been 60 posts about the 4 other teams in the division in between.

I still believe individual team threads is definitely the way to go.

[Motorcat]

wasnt sure where i could post this....but mods, when am i eligible to get my thread starting priviledges back?

Corky - we have had numerous complaints about the threads you start and their content or lack of.

I asked you awhile back to spend some time reading and becoming more familiar with the board/personalities here. Well the same complaints kept rolling in and with no reply from you and with basically the same things continuing to happen this was a last resort, short of some kind of ban.

I highly suggest you take this opportunity to start doing more reading and when you do post take a minute and think - is what I am posting relevant.

When you have a better feel for the forum and interact with the population in a more positive way this "purgatory" will be lifted and you will be able to start threads.

If you have any questions - please direct them to me or one of the other mods via a PM.

Thanks.

[corky]

well i cant pm, but anyways i believe i have toned it down and over the last week i feel my posts have been relevant. if not than there isnt much i can do about it....i have been getting other people onto this site and they cannot post or anything cuz they havent recieved the privilege yet. what gives? i thought me bringing more people into this forum weas a good thing

[nyrblue2]

well i cant pm, but anyways i believe i have toned it down and over the last week i feel my posts have been relevant. if not than there isnt much i can do about it....i have been getting other people onto this site and they cannot post or anything cuz they havent recieved the privilege yet. what gives? i thought me bringing more people into this forum weas a good thing
Anybody who signs up doesn't have the ability to post until Jeff/HI gets around to approving them. I had to wait a few days, we all did. They do this stuff for free, on the side of their real jobs, so it's not always a top priority to do the legwork to approve a new member. It will happen soon enough, though, as I'm sure they're not intentionally delaying...

[corky]

alright. thanks man

[WinnipegWingnut]

Anybody who signs up doesn't have the ability to post until Jeff/HI gets around to approving them. I had to wait a few days, we all did. It will happen soon enough, though, as I'm sure they're not intentionally delaying...

I was able to post the day I signed up if I remember right, but I also attached a photo of myself with the application :naughty:

[keyboard]

Completely agree with ya 24. It's MUCH much easier to do a simple search for a Sabres individual team thread then it is to sort through 200 pgs of individual posts about TOR/BOS/MTL/OTT stuff just to find news on the Sabres.

Plus, there'd be like 10 different conversations going on at the same time in a divisional thread like that (at least for the divisions that have the most fans here), and it could get pretty confusing to follow along with when the post you quote was two pages ago because there's been 60 posts about the 4 other teams in the division in between.

I still believe individual team threads is definitely the way to go.I'm shocked anyone disagrees with this line of thinking.

[chgorman]

I'm shocked anyone disagrees with this line of thinking.

Me too (obviously), but nyihater seems to have a problem with it.

[WinnipegWingnut]

Me too (obviously), but nyihater seems to have a problem with it.

I think he's just jealous that our Red Wings thread would/will blow his Rangers one out of the water! :p

[keyboard]

Exactly why we need divisional threads... the Buffalo thread would get pushed down to page 2 and beyond because with all the news and shit that gets posted.Talk about flawed logic. If you're concerned that every NHL team will have news posted in its individual thread, thus pushing a thread to page 2, what do you think would happen if you put several teams in one thread and then news was posted on each one? If page 2 on the NHL Discussions page is a problem for you then you're not going to like having to go all the way to page 4 or 5 in the divisional thread to find news. Not to mention it wouldn't be filtered by team, so you'd have to actually read each post. What a nightmare scenario.

[WinnipegWingnut]

It seems to work in the Football thread.... :\

[WIS]

well i cant pm, but anyways i believe i have toned it down and over the last week i feel my posts have been relevant. if not than there isnt much i can do about it....i have been getting other people onto this site and they cannot post or anything cuz they havent recieved the privilege yet. what gives? i thought me bringing more people into this forum weas a good thing
:freak:

[nyrblue2]

:freak:
:lol: Maybe that explains some of the "poll-worthy" people....

[Lucca Brazzi]

I was able to post the day I signed up if I remember right, but I also attached a photo of myself with the application :naughty:

Me too, but I joined awhile ago, when things weren't so crazy. :cool:

[Dubz]

I was able to post the day I signed up if I remember right, but I also attached a photo of myself with the application :naughty:

Me too, but I joined awhile ago, when things weren't so crazy. :cool:

Yeah but they used to let in all the riff raff ....myself included. I did read for a longgggg time before I started posting. I eased into it and learned when, where and what to say. I try not to ruffle feathers where others might tend to look for the oppportunity. We are all different. Theres no rules....just respect and appreciate others opinions, time, assistance and most of all the board.




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[phaneuf6]

Exactly why we need divisional threads... the Buffalo thread would get pushed down to page 2 and beyond because with all the news and shit that gets posted.

I like divisional threads better
You have your divisional thread for the Rangers though so I don't see the issue ;) Anything else is usually on rotoworld.com anyways haha.:beer: