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looch17
10-07-2008, 11:58 AM
Marc-Edouard Vlasic (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/3829) http://forums.hockeyinformer.com/data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhEgALANUAAJlnA9/Z0OGdOOaJAPzu2c57APO6ZseJLPfeuahxIP78+OGND75yAPbOk u2bIeF5AO+qQ/Xo1fTEfOmTEueeL+6iMbNrAOySC/7z5OmUFu+mOt6TJPG1WNd+AKtmAPTBdPPIieN9AK18NPrkw+eO CsR0AOimQf///+2eKeyUEvft3v3v2+yXF9iBAqxpAOuNA9yEAPfRmffFc/CvS/337eSGAO+oP////wAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACH5BAUUADcALAAAAAA SAAsAAAZ5wJuQ9oFoNCiUg8UyRYTQm2F2TC5TqcUmKrTZHJewu NZqcW8aB+F0kjRWqVqhcK4oPqTaA4RJwQolZygKHCNtb34lDGc OdyEIMW8THQwWZywva20SbCoHllwZGQOkpX8WHmcUCzAdHYAlJ S4ACWcRAi1zihaoIgFQQQA7 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/3829/gamelog)was just dropped in my keeper league. Not sure why since he is a young dman on a good team. Do you see him as an upgrade to any of my current Dman? I know most of you will probably say drop Tollefson/Murray. That seems like a good move, but those two are really the only PIM guys have especially since I just lost Walker. This is a keeper league where each team keeps 18 guys. Its also a max move league and I have already used 9 moves out my 100. My team and settings are in my sig.

FYI Vlasic is still on waivers and I have the #2 spot if you think its worth using.

secol
10-07-2008, 11:59 AM
I'd stay put unless you want to drop Tollefson....

nyrblue2
10-07-2008, 12:03 PM
I wouldn't. He'll be stuck behind Boyle for a bunch of years and Blake for at least a couple more. I doubt he'd make your top 18 anyway...

StrongArmSu
10-07-2008, 12:03 PM
Marc-Edouard Vlasic (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/3829) http://forums.hockeyinformer.com/data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhEgALANUAAJlnA9/Z0OGdOOaJAPzu2c57APO6ZseJLPfeuahxIP78+OGND75yAPbOk u2bIeF5AO+qQ/Xo1fTEfOmTEueeL+6iMbNrAOySC/7z5OmUFu+mOt6TJPG1WNd+AKtmAPTBdPPIieN9AK18NPrkw+eO CsR0AOimQf///+2eKeyUEvft3v3v2+yXF9iBAqxpAOuNA9yEAPfRmffFc/CvS/337eSGAO+oP////wAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACH5BAUUADcALAAAAAA SAAsAAAZ5wJuQ9oFoNCiUg8UyRYTQm2F2TC5TqcUmKrTZHJewu NZqcW8aB+F0kjRWqVqhcK4oPqTaA4RJwQolZygKHCNtb34lDGc OdyEIMW8THQwWZywva20SbCoHllwZGQOkpX8WHmcUCzAdHYAlJ S4ACWcRAi1zihaoIgFQQQA7 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/3829/gamelog)was just dropped in my keeper league. Not sure why since he is a young dman on a good team. Do you see him as an upgrade to any of my current Dman? I know most of you will probably say drop Tollefson/Murray. That seems like a good move, but those two are really the only PIM guys have especially since I just lost Walker. This is a keeper league where each team keeps 18 guys. Its also a max move league and I have already used 9 moves out my 100. My team and settings are in my sig.

FYI Vlasic is still on waivers and I have the #2 spot if you think its worth using.

I really don't think you will make over 100 moves this season...that would be a bit much no?

WinnipegWingnut
10-07-2008, 12:11 PM
With all the guys you keep, and the fact this is a large pool, it might be worth grabbing him over one of Tolly/Murray/Brewer. I see Vlasic having much more upside than any of these three. I wouldn't burn a waiver on it, especially a #2 waiver, but if he clears I would consider him for Brewer most likely if you need the PIMs from the other two.

looch17
10-07-2008, 01:44 PM
I'd stay put unless you want to drop Tollefson....I may consider this, but I do need those PIMs.

I really don't think you will make over 100 moves this season...that would be a bit much no?No I dont expect to make that many moves I was just stating it since its part of my rules/settings.

I wouldn't. He'll be stuck behind Boyle for a bunch of years and Blake for at least a couple more. I doubt he'd make your top 18 anyway...Yeah I figured he would be behind those guys on the depth chart. I just thought with his age and potential he may be worth it. Since I already have the likes of Coburn, Kronwall, Whitney, EJ and Ranger your right he probably wont be kept.

With all the guys you keep, and the fact this is a large pool, it might be worth grabbing him over one of Tolly/Murray/Brewer. I see Vlasic having much more upside than any of these three. I wouldn't burn a waiver on it, especially a #2 waiver, but if he clears I would consider him for Brewer most likely if you need the PIMs from the other two.I agree that he has more upside not debating that. I am just not sure if my team can afford to lose one of those 2 PIM guys. I am going to hang onto Brewer cause he should take over EJ spot. I need an offensive Dman to make up for the loss of Whitney, EJ and while Ranger is out. Like I mentiond I may consider dropping Tollefson for him, but I am just not sure if I can afford to.

WinnipegWingnut
10-07-2008, 01:55 PM
I wouldn't bank on Brewer getting EJ's top minutes, but he should get some of them. It sounds like the Blues are going to toss the youngster Pieterangelo into the top offensive D-man role with EJ out.

I would consider dumping Tolly or Murray for him then, maybe see which one will be the better PIM producer. I know Murray's PIM numbers dipped down the second half of last season.

looch17
10-07-2008, 03:29 PM
I wouldn't bank on Brewer getting EJ's top minutes, but he should get some of them. It sounds like the Blues are going to toss the youngster Pieterangelo into the top offensive D-man role with EJ out.

I would consider dumping Tolly or Murray for him then, maybe see which one will be the better PIM producer. I know Murray's PIM numbers dipped down the second half of last season.I was not really banking on Brewer being "the" guy more or less hoping for it. He was/is the best option for an offensive dman in my league, so I kind of have to stick with him. As for which to drop Tollefson or Murray I will wait and see if Tolly makes the team. I heard last week that there is a possibility he may not. If doesnt then that will be an easy decision, but if he does it will be tough call since both guys are good sources for PIMs. I did see that Murray had a down second half, but I have to figure that will change since they just re signed him. I dont think they would have signed him (3 years I think) if they didnt think he couldnt cut it in the PIM department. Maybe the best thing to do is flip a coin haha.:D

EDIT: what do you guys think about dropping a center like Connolly for him? That way I keep both PIM guys until I see which guy to hang onto. Only reason I thought of that is Connolly is slated to play 3rd line so that doesnt give him much value. Plus I also have Bergeron, O'Sully, Bolland, Christensen, Federov and Weiss as other center options.

StrongArmSu
10-07-2008, 03:45 PM
I was not really banking on Brewer being "the" guy more or less hoping for it. He was/is the best option for an offensive dman in my league, so I kind of have to stick with him. As for which to drop Tollefson or Murray I will wait and see if Tolly makes the team. I heard last week that there is a possibility he may not. If doesnt then that will be an easy decision, but if he does it will be tough call since both guys are good sources for PIMs. I did see that Murray had a down second half, but I have to figure that will change since they just re signed him. I dont think they would have signed him (3 years I think) if they didnt think he couldnt cut it in the PIM department. Maybe the best thing to do is flip a coin haha.:D

EDIT: what do you guys think about dropping a center like Connolly for him? That way I keep both PIM guys until I see which guy to hang onto. Only reason I thought of that is Connolly is slated to play 3rd line so that doesnt give him much value. Plus I also have Bergeron, O'Sully, Bolland, Christensen, Federov and Weiss as other center options.

I would drop Bolland, Christ and Federov before Connolly....

WinnipegWingnut
10-07-2008, 04:12 PM
I'd stick with the original plan of dumping Tolly. Bolland is on the top line with Kane and Sharp, and Federov is a nice D-man option (has D eligibilty) and I'm guessing will be working the point for the Caps with A.O. and crew.

Connolly I would keep over Tolly easily. If you really can't decide, just pass on Vlasic for now.

looch17
10-07-2008, 05:07 PM
Ok thanks guys. I will wait to see what Tollefson's fate with the team will be. If he makes it I think I will hang onto him for now.