Money League.

[keyboard]

Hey guys, I have been wanting to start a league on this site for money for a couple seasons. It's completely conceptual and any insight would be appreciated for parties that are considering it. Here are some thoughts I had:

Any member from HI wanting to join must have a minimum of 2000 posts.
Because it's a HI league, how about posing any trades as polls in the forum and letting the good people of HI vote on whether or not to veto, thus negating the role of the Commissioner almost entirely.
If one party holding the money is a concern, have 3 parties hold the money at one time, and alternate these parties throughout the season.So, anyone interested?

[dw13]

How much money we talking? Sounds like a good idea obviously.

[doofdoof]

1. Only 813 to go
2. Think it is a great idea.
3. Does not worry me, depending upon the amount.

I am certainly interested. Was in a playoff pool for money with a few people from here that was my first foray into a cash pool. Went without a hitch. Let me know if I need to get my post count up ;)

[keyboard]

How much money we talking? Sounds like a good idea obviously.Anywhere between $50 and $100. We could also add an additional $10 for each entry and get the Plus! package and get everyone Stat Tracker and all that stuff. I think they have a Plus! package for hockey, but the way they treat it like shit, they might not on Yahoo!.

1. Only 813 to go
2. Think it is a great idea.
3. Does not worry me, depending upon the amount.

I am certainly interested. Was in a playoff pool for money with a few people from here that was my first foray into a cash pool. Went without a hitch. Let me know if I need to get my post count up ;)The 2000 post thing is a ballpark. It's mostly so we only get members who have a reputation on here. You and dawinna13 don't need the 2000 posts, maybe 1000 is a better number.

[Dubz]

I have room for one more team....and paypal. The big question aside from the particulars is how much?

[keyboard]

I have room for one more team....and paypal. The big question aside from the particulars is how much?For me personally, like I said above, it should be between $50 and $100. I usually only do cash leagues, and for the amount of time, effort, and tears a NHL season hands out in the fantasy world, making $100 or $200 really makes you wonder if it was worth it. Bragging rights are priceless, sure, but actual cash is pretty nice, too.

[Hawkeye]

I would probably join if it were somewhere around 20$... I have so many hockey pools that I don't wanna spend a large amount on a yahoo pool...

I'll see who's in first if I commit to a larger amount

[VenomZeus]

I would like to be in if it's a yahoo pool, the only thing that sucks is if you use paypal, paypal will take a % off what we put in the pool and again once the $ is sent back to the winners.

I know I don't have more than 2000 posts though..

[keyboard]

I would probably join if it were somewhere around 20$... I have so many hockey pools that I don't wanna spend a large amount on a yahoo pool...

I'll see who's in first if I commit to a larger amountI know what you mean. Last thing you want to do is neglect all your prior commitments. Your membership would be cool as I'm trying to get some HI regulars into the pool.

I would like to be in if it's a yahoo pool, the only thing that sucks is if you use paypal, paypal will take a % off what we put in the pool and again once the $ is sent back to the winners.

I know I don't have more than 2000 posts though..Yeah, doesn't look like you'll make the cut this year. Sorry. As for the PayPal issue, there are other ways to deposit money, like opening a Pokerstars account and transferring funds.

[doofdoof]

For me personally, like I said above, it should be between $50 and $100. I usually only do cash leagues, and for the amount of time, effort, and tears a NHL season hands out in the fantasy world, making $100 or $200 really makes you wonder if it was worth it. Bragging rights are priceless, sure, but actual cash is pretty nice, too.

$50 to $100 is fine by me.

BTW assume you were thinking a single year pool?

[Motorcat]

Count me in as interested.

[keyboard]

$50 to $100 is fine by me.

BTW assume you were thinking a single year pool?Yes, a keeper league would get messy if a member were to leave and having to find a replacement manager.

[Dubz]

I think I only have $50 in my Poker account:$
I am interested but Id like to see the rules before I commit.

[moans]

I'd be down for this.

[keyboard]

Count me in as interested.We scored a Hockey Informer moderator in the pool. Now it's official.

I think I only have $50 in my Poker account:$
I am interested but Id like to see the rules before I commit.Better hit up those tables and double it. :lol:

I'd be down for this.Okay, so here's the list of members and their status. If we get too many members it'll be based on those who first showed interest.

Confirmed (more or less):
kamranish
doofdoof
dawinna13
Motorcat
sdubzz
moans

Potential:
Hawkeye
Pete
Roy Hinske

[WIS]

I would probably join if it were somewhere around 20$... I have so many hockey pools that I don't wanna spend a large amount on a yahoo pool...

I'll see who's in first if I commit to a larger amount
I will second that.

[Roy Hinske]

I am interested but don't want to commit a lot of cash.

[keyboard]

I am interested but don't want to commit a lot of cash.Well, it's at least $50, which is $10/month. Personally, I'd go higher because it's quite a commitment, so the winners should be compensated.

[dw13]

I'd say for the people that don't want to go to $50, we can allow people to do like $10/month as long as we know the money will get there for the end of the year.

[keyboard]

I'd say for the people that don't want to go to $50, we can allow people to do like $10/month as long as we know the money will get there for the end of the year.I think most people would prefer money up front. I for one don't want to be responsible for having to follow up on people each month, or worse, following up on delinquent accounts. I've had to do it before and it's incredibly unpleasant. One year I had to disband the league when one of my friends refused to pay for his last place team.

[dw13]

True, as I typed it I questioned myself. Well like I said, I'll play for 20, or 50, or whatever. I just want something to play for, and make it more fun.

20 in a 10 teamer can be 180 to the winner and 20 back to the 2nd place.

50 could be 450 and 50.

All sounds good to me. As long as its together pretty quick.

[keyboard]

True, as I typed it I questioned myself. Well like I said, I'll play for 20, or 50, or whatever. I just want something to play for, and make it more fun.

20 in a 10 teamer can be 180 to the winner and 20 back to the 2nd place.

50 could be 450 and 50.

All sounds good to me. As long as its together pretty quick.I think we have enough to at least start talking about league structure. I think a standard Yahoo! H2H would avoid any issues with customization. If someone is involved in a league with settings they like or think are ideal (roster sizes, max moves, etc.), please post it in here so other members can discuss.

[WIS]

Well, it's at least $50, which is $10/month. Personally, I'd go higher because it's quite a commitment, so the winners should be compensated.
It's the first year of this kind of league. We should ease into it to get committed and trustworthy people who have not done a cash league before. Besides, like Hawkeye mentioned, there are other priorities. You can always start it at like $20 and then next year raise it. The $50 min mark may attract enough, but it wouldn't as much if it was only $20. I'm with Roy Hinske on this one as well. Let's keep it low since it's the first year for a lot of people.
I think most people would prefer money up front. I for one don't want to be responsible for having to follow up on people each month, or worse, following up on delinquent accounts. I've had to do it before and it's incredibly unpleasant. One year I had to disband the league when one of my friends refused to pay for his last place team.
I think you eliminate the problem by asking people with a min of 2,000 post to join because they are active here and they're not guys who wouldn't pay the money. If they're committed to HI then you can bet they'll be committed to pay. I'm sure you've been around long enough to know that the guys here who contribute the most are the ones you will have to worry about the least.

[dw13]

I have no beef with the first year being $20 and if we can get a core of 10 or 12 owners for a year and done league, every year. I would think that would be the best.

Sounds like we have a good group of guys already.

[keyboard]

I have no beef with the first year being $20 and if we can get a core of 10 or 12 owners for a year and done league, every year. I would think that would be the best.

Sounds like we have a good group of guys already.Speaking from experience, $20 is really low. One year I did a $20 pool but what we did was it was a points league, and every month the winner with the most points for that month would take the pot. It was pretty cool because every month a new team could potentially win, unless your team is really, really bad, and then you're in trouble. It was a complicated structure that awarded teams with the lowest point totals the highest waiver priority and more moves. Wasn't bad once it got going.

[dw13]

Well, I'll let you guys decide, I'm definitely down for whatever we can get together. Dropped my dynasty team in the offseason and am just running one team at the moment.

[Dubz]

How about $40. And pay a 1/4 out to regular season and 3/4 out to playoffs. Just a suggestion. Pay 1st, 2nd and 3rd for both....? You do the math Kam:lol:

Im down with $50 too....Can't get much more basic than standard cats. Except for that crappy SOG cat that Y! decided to throw in:mad:

[WinnipegWingnut]

I'm in for $50... I spent more than that on a BJ for a buddy at my cousins stag in Montreal. Come on boys, you know you'll drop $50 on drinks at the bar or some shit dinner at some high end restaurant. What's $50 for almost 7 months of fantasy hockey???

[Hawkeye]

Kam pencil me in for the league... I may be willing to commit to 50$ max. But I need to see...

1. Who is involved (Like Pete said, if its pretty much regulars on here, I'd probably be more comfortable doing it)

2. The league structure (Some of the cats, # of moves, roster spots, etc.)

I'm know I'm being picky, but I've played in alot of money leagues and there's always someone or something fucking it up for the rest.

[keyboard]

Kam pencil me in for the league... I may be willing to commit to 50$ max. But I need to see...

1. Who is involved (Like Pete said, if its pretty much regulars on here, I'd probably be more comfortable doing it)

2. The league structure (Some of the cats, # of moves, roster spots, etc.)

I'm know I'm being picky, but I've played in alot of money leagues and there's always someone or something fucking it up for the rest.I have the exact same concerns as you. That's why I want a 2000 post and 1.5 year membership length requirement as mandatory. Also, all money will be required before the draft. That should take care of everything.

Again, for league structure, if you or anyone else wants to propose something, please do. I think as long as we settle on it early, no one will complain that they "didn't know how it worked" and use that as a reason to bail out. The only thing is I think it has to be H2H.

Also, a crazy idea, but if we get enough interest, I'd like to get two Conferences going. Now, this might just be getting too adventurous but what if we followed the same logic as baseball pools with NL and AL only leagues. If there's one set of guys who could pull off something like this, it'd be the guys on Hockey Informer.

[Hawkeye]

I have the exact same concerns as you. That's why I want a 2000 post and 1.5 year membership length requirement as mandatory. Also, all money will be required before the draft. That should take care of everything.

Again, for league structure, if you or anyone else wants to propose something, please do. I think as long as we settle on it early, no one will complain that they "didn't know how it worked" and use that as a reason to bail out. The only thing is I think it has to be H2H.

Also, a crazy idea, but if we get enough interest, I'd like to get two Conferences going. Now, this might just be getting too adventurous but what if we followed the same logic as baseball pools with NL and AL only leagues. If there's one set of guys who could pull off something like this, it'd be the guys on Hockey Informer.

One thing I'd want for sure is a very low number of moves... Makes it more challenging where managers have to make good decisions. This will also eliminate managers from streaming at the end of the year. Somewhere from 20-40 would be ample. Then we could set a maximum number of rules per playoff week ( We do this in one of our keeper leagues and use 3 as a maximum). An exception to this rule would be if any manager has too many injuries that given week. I would hate to lose a money league to some idiot streaming the whole damn season.

Another thing would be the system we use to know if we should accept a trade or not (veto system). I doubt there'd be any corruption since this is a money league, but you still never know and I'd rather be safe than sorry.

[WinnipegWingnut]

I personally would prefer 20-30 moves max, 20 is good because it stops people from saving all their moves for playoffs. Nothing worse in a cash league than the finals being won by someone streaming.

For trades a league votes is crucial, whether it be the Yahoo button or we vote on a seperate forum somewhere. The only flaw with the Yahoo one is some people don't check it daily or go away on vacation and don't vote.

[hc_aysche]

I found league votes trading as a bad thing in a money league. VERY BAD! If a trade is BAD enough people need to man up and state to the league why it is bad and not vote against simply because a top team is improving his team.

Being in a money league means trusting all the managers in the league. part of that trust is being able to convey, to the league at large, why a trade is or is not acceptable.

Also, 20 moves is not nearly enough. Think about how many times players go on the IR each year? Plus, the need to improve the team as the season transpires. When cash is on the line, no one should be hadcuffed. A commish can turn moves on or off at any point during the season including playoffs.

people being Whiny and complainy in a money league = REALLY BAD!!!

[hc_aysche]

The x Amount of post thing is funny..

I see what you're trying to achive by saying that, though.

Another thing... It's funny what 2-$300 will do to what used to be an active poster. In my money leagues, it's all about age not posts. Odds are, if you're in your 30's, you wont have a problem forking out 50-100 bucks for a fantasy team. A student that lives with mom and that uses the computer she bought for him may have a hard time forking over dough as he has to convince mom to give him money as the job at Starbucks does not pay nearly enough.

[hc_aysche]

By the way, there is not a plus hockey...Unless they add it this season.. I've been lobbying for it for quite some time.

[keyboard]

One thing I'd want for sure is a very low number of moves... Somewhere from 20-40 would be ample.

Another thing would be the system we use to know if we should accept a trade or not (veto system). I doubt there'd be any corruption since this is a money league, but you still never know and I'd rather be safe than sorry.We'll have the league members vote on the number of moves when we finalize the list. As for corruption, there's way more in a money league because there's more at stake. The veto system will be done using Hockey Informer's public poll, the details of the trades will not include member names, and potentially no members from our pool may vote.

For trades a league votes is crucial, whether it be the Yahoo button or we vote on a seperate forum somewhere. The only flaw with the Yahoo one is some people don't check it daily or go away on vacation and don't vote.Yeah, we'll use the poll feature on HI.

I found league votes trading as a bad thing in a money league. VERY BAD! If a trade is BAD enough people need to man up and state to the league why it is bad and not vote against simply because a top team is improving his team.Yeah, I agree. That's why I think anonymous postings of the teams to HI would get the best results, as the members on this board don't have any vested interest in the league.

Odds are, if you're in your 30's, you wont have a problem forking out 50-100 bucks for a fantasy team.If someone can't afford the buy in or simply doesn't feel that investing the money is worthwhile, I'm not going to judge them for it. I'll simply find members who can.

By the way, there is not a plus hockey...Unless they add it this season.. I've been lobbying for it for quite some time.Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully this year they update the Stat Tracker because it's a load of shit compared to the other trackers, especially the NFL one.

[keyboard]

So, anyone have a league structure from previous years they liked?

[hc_aysche]

So, anyone have a league structure from previous years they liked?


Money leagues really only work when they are H2H. I'm not the biggest H2H fan in the world but do enjoy playing for a cash prize so I conform without complaint.

Also, yearly drafted leagues. No keeper money nonsense. You'll quickly find that half the league or so will be unwilling to play for the dough by year 2.

[keyboard]

Money leagues really only work when they are H2H. I'm not the biggest H2H fan in the world but do enjoy playing for a cash prize so I conform without complaint.

Also, yearly drafted leagues. No keeper money nonsense. You'll quickly find that half the league or so will be unwilling to play for the dough by year 2.I agree with both. I've done all 3 styles for a money league, roto is by far the worst, points is the most controversial (impossible to gauge early on the value of each category until it's usually too late) and H2H is usually the one that pisses the most people off because any team can win any week. However, that mimics life, so I go with that.

[RJV]

I would like to join but Im to low for the 2k post requirement.

[Jake]

Depending on the price count me in as well if there is room

[keyboard]

I would like to join but Im to low for the 2k post requirement.To be fair, we haven't let a few people in for the post count, so to be fair, I'll have to say no here, too. Sorry.

Depending on the price count me in as well if there is room$50 seems to be the consensus.

I know H2H seems to be the popular choice, but what about points? To me, for the amount of money on the line, it seems like a bit of a buzz kill to lose to a guy on a fluke week in the playoffs, whereas points pretty much guarantees the guys who make the right moves all season pull it off. Max moves and max games in effect.

[Motorcat]

I'm out - someone can have my spot.

[chgorman]

I agree with both. I've done all 3 styles for a money league, roto is by far the worst, points is the most controversial (impossible to gauge early on the value of each category until it's usually too late) and H2H is usually the one that pisses the most people off because any team can win any week. However, that mimics life, so I go with that.

Not disagreeing, just curious to know your reasoning... I'm in two $$ roto leagues every year (Commish of one), and have never really had any problems of note. I've also never done an H2H $$ league, and have never done pts period, so I don't really have any frame of reference. For somebody who has done all 3, I'd be interested to hear your reasoning as to why roto is so bad for $$ leagues?

Any don't worry, I won't start an argument about it ;), simply just curious of the reasoning behind your statement, as I've only ever beeing in roto $$ money leagues, so I can't really compare them.

Oh, and sry if this is taking your thread offtrack. Maybe if you don't want to post a response here, in order to keep things on track, you could PM me? Thx Kam.

[keyboard]

Not disagreeing, just curious to know your reasoning... I'm in two $$ roto leagues every year (Commish of one), and have never really had any problems of note. I've also never done an H2H $$ league, and have never done pts period, so I don't really have any frame of reference. For somebody who has done all 3, I'd be interested to hear your reasoning as to why roto is so bad for $$ leagues?Roto is the most disheartening and has the greatest learning curve. Most members have no experience with it and the concept is actually not as obvious as H2H or points. It's a thinking man's scoring system and if you have the right kind of people, it's incredibly rewarding. For a first year money league with people who don't know each other, I think it'd be the one to avoid. Also, by disheartening, like a points league, once you've fallen behind the pack, there's usually little you can do to catch up. Now, again, not a bad thing because the best teams should be rewarded (unlike the random victories found in H2H), but we're also here to have fun. I hope that answers that.

[chgorman]

Roto is the most disheartening and has the greatest learning curve. Most members have no experience with it and the concept is actually not as obvious as H2H or points. It's a thinking man's scoring system and if you have the right kind of people, it's incredibly rewarding. For a first year money league with people who don't know each other, I think it'd be the one to avoid. Also, by disheartening, like a points league, once you've fallen behind the pack, there's usually little you can do to catch up. Now, again, not a bad thing because the best teams should be rewarded (unlike the random victories found in H2H), but we're also here to have fun. I hope that answers that.

Yeah, for sure, all solid points you've made. Thx Kam.

[keyboard]

I think we should start drafting before the end of next week, so just going to do some confirmations on this list. I'll send out a PM to everyone on the list.

Confirmed Managers:
kamranish
Arexjay
moans
fancy19
martybrodur30
TheThrash

Potential Managers:
doofdoof
sdubzz
Hawkeye
Pete
Skate Or Die
bole
isitthatsfine
Hoo Hoo Howie
bearcats
Ultimate_Nux_Fan
Bob Clarke WAS My Hero
fusion

I hope the guys over at HIKL don't mind, but they have the exact settings I'd like to use:

Statistical Categories: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, W, GAA, SV%, SHO
Roster: C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, UTIL, G, G, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, IR, IR

Some things to discuss before getting started.
The membership fee will be $50.
Should we have a max moves per week or season?
Trades being proposed as a poll to the HI community (if any manager protests).
4 weekly starts minimum for goalies.
Should the regular season winner receive winnings?
Anything else anyone wants to mention.

[dw13]

I'm going to bow out, just for the simple fact I've gotten deep into a couple more pools than I expected. Sounds like a damn good idea and I hope you guys get it going.

[nyrblue2]

I'm going to bow out, just for the simple fact I've gotten deep into a couple more pools than I expected. Sounds like a damn good idea and I hope you guys get it going.
Ditto for me. Good luck.

[arexjay]

I'm in

[keyboard]

I'm inAny thoughts on the following:

1. The membership fee will be $50.
2. Should we have a max moves per week or season?
3. Trades being proposed as a poll to the HI community (if any manager protests).
4. 4 weekly starts minimum for goalies.

[moans]

50 is fine for me, max moves should be for the season, no less than 25 moves, polls on hi for trades are fine for me, I'd prefer 3 starts. Also, I think we should have the regualr season winner take some cash home in addition to the winner of the playoffs.

[moans]

I'd also go for less of an entry fee if it meant more participants.

[keyboard]

I'd also go for less of an entry fee if it meant more participants.Money doesn't appear to be the reason people aren't committing, they just have other pools so it's more of a time constraint. Personally I like investing the time and effort of hockey pools and make some money out of it but hey, for the love of the game is respectable, too.

If you and arexjay could join the Yahoo! group, we can start having polls and start drafting sooner rather than later.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hockeyinformermoneyleague

[moans]

we should just do a yahoo draft.

[arexjay]

I'm good with 50.
Cool with max moves per year, as long as it's not a super low number or anything.
Fine with the polls.
I'd say 3 minimum starts.

[Roy Hinske]

I'm going to pass. I'm having trouble keeping up with everything right now.

[TheThrash]

I'm looking for a pool to play in... I would play but apparently I am not eligible because I don't have enough posts.... which I think is underminding the love people have for fantasy hockey. I really only get to contribute on HI during the hockey season. I'd love to join if you change your mind about number of posts... I'd love a challenge this year. Let me know kamranish.

[Motorcat]

I think its probably best I sit out as well.

I've barely been able to post the last 2 weeks and my schedule does not appear to be easing up anytime soon.

[keyboard]

we should just do a yahoo draft.I'll put it up as a poll. My issue is that if you're paying $50, you want to be able to comfortably draft and I wouldn't be surprised if we ran into a few different time zones.

I'm looking for a pool to play in... I would play but apparently I am not eligible because I don't have enough posts.... which I think is underminding the love people have for fantasy hockey. I really only get to contribute on HI during the hockey season. I'd love to join if you change your mind about number of posts... I'd love a challenge this year. Let me know kamranish.You've been a member since 2005, which means you're like a regular even with a low post count. The restriction was just to avoid having newcomers on the board with no history joining, causing an issue, and then regretting letting them in when they had no track history. I don't have that issue with you.

[keyboard]

Polls are up in the Yahoo! group.

[keyboard]

Confirmed Managers:
kamranish
Arexjay
moans
fancy19
martybrodur30
TheThrash

Potential Managers:
doofdoof
sdubzz
Pete
bole
isitthatsfine
Hoo Hoo Howie
bearcats
Ultimate_Nux_Fan
Bob Clarke WAS My Hero

Statistical Categories: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, W, GAA, SV%, SHO
Roster: C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, UTIL, G, G, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, IR, IR

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hockeyinformermoneyleague

[TheThrash]

As soon as Yahoo opens up, I'm sure more will be interested in joining

[Skate or Die]

PM sent. Sorry ladies and gents, I'm out. Won't have the time to give this pool the attention it deserves.

[WIS]

How will the exchange of money work?

[keyboard]

How will the exchange of money work?Well, I accept Paypal and Pokerstars transfers. It's really a question of trust. We could send the money to a moderator if it makes people more comfortable, but I really don't see any issues. I've handled money before (we played a poker game online last month), so I think it'll be okay.

[keyboard]

A quick update for those keeping track.

Confirmed Managers:
kamranish
Arexjay
moans
fancy19
martybrodur30
TheThrash
sdubzz

Potential Managers:
Pete
bole
isitthatsfine
Hoo Hoo Howie
bearcats
Ultimate_Nux_Fan

Statistical Categories: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, W, GAA, SV%, SHO
Roster: C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, UTIL, G, G, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, IR, IR

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hockeyinformermoneyleague

[keyboard]

Still waiting on replies from:

sdubzz
Pete
bole
isitthatsfine
Hoo Hoo Howie
bearcats
Ultimate_Nux_Fan

Feel free to send these guys threatening messages.

[Dubz]

I'm in for $50... I spent more than that on a BJ for a buddy at my cousins stag in Montreal. Come on boys, you know you'll drop $50 on drinks at the bar or some shit dinner at some high end restaurant. What's $50 for almost 7 months of fantasy hockey???

What happened here? I dont see Peggers name on either list?


Im down with $50 too....Can't get much more basic than standard cats.

Ill play. We need 3 more players to make 10 teams. Hows the draft going down?

[TheThrash]

It's open, do you have the league ID and PW in the yahoo group?

[keyboard]

What happened here? I dont see Peggers name on either list?I've gotten a lot of private messages from members who said they cannot commit to the league so I removed their names from the list.

Ill play. We need 3 more players to make 10 teams. Hows the draft going down?We'll vote on it once we have enough members.

It's open, do you have the league ID and PW in the yahoo group?I'd prefer everyone join the Yahoo! group first to get all the polls out of the way and then create the league.

[TheThrash]

ahh ok, the sooner the better for me! :)

[WinnipegWingnut]

What happened here? I dont see Peggers name on either list?

I already filled up my two Yahoo ID's for the 2008-09 season, sorry :)

[WIS]

I already filled up my two Yahoo ID's for the 2008-09 season, sorry :)
Two shit!

I'm grasping with a few teams myself and this would be my last league and that is why I'm approaching it cautiously. I'm usually doing a money league with friends (remember that fiasco though last year?). So I'm sure this one would be better, but I"m still having a hard time deciding....

[keyboard]

Updated list of managers. We got to get a move on so it's either going to be 8, 10, or 12 managers, whichever we have by the 15th.

Confirmed Managers:
kamranish
Arexjay
moans
fancy19
martybrodur30
TheThrash
sdubzz
bearcats
Pete
Hoo Hoo HowiePotential Managers:
bole
isitthatsfine
Ultimate_Nux_Fan

Statistical Categories: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, W, GAA, SV%, SHO
Roster: C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, UTIL, G, G, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, IR, IR

Don't forget to join the Yahoo! group and vote on the various polls.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hockeyinformermoneyleague

[keyboard]

We have enough to get started but I sent one last message to the potential managers. If they don't reply we'll have a league of 8 which isn't bad at all.

[keyboard]

Pete has joined, putting us at 9 managers. We need 1 more to avoid the bye week so hopefully someone realizes this is going to be the best league ever and joins soon.

[keyboard]

Hoo Hoo Howie had confirmed his membership in the pool bringing us to 10 members. 3 members are left so we can wait for them to reply (2 will have to join to avoid the bye week) or we can end registration now and start forming the league structure. Any thoughts?

[keyboard]

Y! = Joined Yahoo! Group
$ = Paid $50 Fee


kamranish Y! $
Arexjay Y!
moans Y!
fancy19
martybrodur30
TheThrash Y!
sdubzz Y!
bearcats
Pete
Hoo Hoo Howie
Yahoo! Group Page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hockeyinformermoneyleague

Potential Managers:
bole
isitthatsfine
Ultimate_Nux_Fan

[arexjay]

Where can I send money to?

[keyboard]

Y! = Joined Yahoo! Group
$ = Paid $50 Fee
kamranish Y! $
arexjay Y! $
moans Y!
fancy19
mrtybrodur30
TheThrash Y!
sdubzz Y!
bearcats
Pete
Hoo Hoo HowieYahoo! Group Page
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hockeyinformermoneyleague

Payment Options
PayPal money transfer to kamranish@hotmail.com.
You can also send money over Pokerstars to the user kamranish.
You can also send money over FullTilt Poker to the user kamranish.

[arexjay]

just sent my payment

[arexjay]

I'd like to wait to see if we can get 12 managers, and then just cap it off there.

[keyboard]

I'd like to wait to see if we can get 12 managers, and then just cap it off there.With about 3.5 weeks to go and all the registration and league issues to discuss, as well as actually drafting, how much longer should we wait? The 3 potential managers have been sent 2 PMs so I really don't think they are around or interested. I'll give them until Friday of this week.

[arexjay]

With about 3.5 weeks to go and all the registration and league issues to discuss, as well as actually drafting, how much longer should we wait? The 3 potential managers have been sent 2 PMs so I really don't think they are around or interested. I'll give them until Friday of this week.

I wasn't aware that was the case. I think Friday is a good time to wait until then, yeah.

[keyboard]

So, a live draft might be an option. Is anyone not EST?

[arexjay]

I'm PST.

[Dubz]

Make my Pay Scale an option in the poll please.

[TheThrash]

I am CDT... and as soon as the league is set up I will send you my payment Kam

[keyboard]

I'm PST.Darn.

Make my Pay Scale an option in the poll please.I don't agree with the pay scale option at all. The teams who finish 3rd, 4th, and 5th in the regular season make a considerable less amount of money. I understand paying the person who finishes first in the regular season because that isn't easy, but after that you're taking money away from the other 3 teams who enter the playoffs, and why? Why should 2nd and 3rd in the regular season make more money than someone who finishes 2nd or 3rd in the playoffs, which is way, way harder. Any time I've played a money league the last paying spot gets their money back minimum. Anything lower just doesn't make sense.

Also, I can't add it without restarting the poll entirely, and there's already nearly majority vote for 1 of the options.

I am CDT... and as soon as the league is set up I will send you my payment KamI didn't even know that was a time zone. :lol:

[keyboard]

Y! = Joined Yahoo! Group
$ = Paid $50 Fee
kamranish Y! $
arexjay Y! $
moans Y!
mrtybrodur30
TheThrash Y!
sdubzz Y!
bearcats
Pete
Hoo Hoo Howie Y!Yahoo! Group Page
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hockeyinformermoneyleague

Payment Options
PayPal money transfer to kamranish@hotmail.com.
You can also send money over Pokerstars to the user kamranish.
You can also send money over FullTilt Poker to the user kamranish.

[keyboard]

I just sent a message to all the members who have not signed up to the Yahoo! group. If they do not reply by tomorrow night we may need to re-evaluate the league and see if we can manage it.

[keyboard]

One of the members is unable to join the pool so that puts us back at 9 members. We can either play with 9 and a bye week or play with 8 and ask the last person to register and pay to not join. Personally I think at least 1 more person will fail to join (call it a hunch) so we may not need to worry about either scenario, but wouldn't hurt to discuss it. Thoughts?

[Dubz]

Ill pass...now you have 8.

[TheThrash]

Damn, I was hoping to have at least 10

[keyboard]

Y! = Joined Yahoo! Group
$ = Paid $50 Fee
kamranish Y! $
arexjay Y! $
moans Y! $
mrtybrodur30
TheThrash Y!
Pete
sdubzz Y!
Hoo Hoo Howie Y! $Yahoo! Group Page
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hockeyinformermoneyleague

Down to 8 with still no reply from mrtybrodur30 and Pete. Once they reply to me we should be okay.

[moans]

just sent my flow.

[keyboard]

just sent my flow.I received it. Thanks. So that's nearly half the league paying. sdubzz and TheThrash have already committed payment so that leaves Pete and mrtybrodur30.

Both of them have signed on recently to Hockey Informer but have not replied to me PM. If anyone knows them could you send them a message to confirm they still want to be in the league? I can't see to get a hold of them.

[keyboard]

Everyone has contacted me and confirmed, so we officially have a league of 8. Now we just need to get the polls out of the way, the money handled, and then the draft.

[aaron_is_nufc]

If theres any space, Ill definitely join. I havw both a pokerstrars and paypal account, so money transfer wont be an issue. Sent me an IM if you still need any more managers

[keyboard]

If theres any space, Ill definitely join. I havw both a pokerstrars and paypal account, so money transfer wont be an issue. Sent me an IM if you still need any more managersRight now we're at 8 so unless another manager wants to sign up we'd like to avoid the bye week. I'll let you know if anything changes.

[keyboard]

Y! = Joined Yahoo! Group
$ = Paid $50 Fee
kamranish Y! $
arexjay Y! $
moans Y! $
Hoo Hoo Howie Y! $
TheThrash Y!
Pete Y!
sdubzz Y!
mrtybrodur30
Yahoo! Group Page
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hockeyinformermoneyleague

[aaron_is_nufc]

Im pretty late, but im definately up for a money league

However, im studying in France for the semester, so im GMT +1:00, which may be a bit inconvenient.

So if you dont want me to join, then i totally understand. However, if you do, i can pay you asap on paypal.

[aaron_is_nufc]

send me a private msg if you want me in

[keyboard]

We are waiting on mrtybrodur30 to join the group and vote in the polls. Once that happens I can create the league and we can draft.

[keyboard]

Yahoo! group updated with poll results and Yahoo! league information.

[keyboard]

Y! = Joined Yahoo! Group
$ = Paid $50 Fee
Y! = Joined Yahoo! League
kamranish Y! $ Y!
arexjay Y! $ Y!
moans Y! $ Y!
Hoo Hoo Howie Y! $ Y!
TheThrash Y! Y!
Pete Y! Y!
sdubzz Y! $ Y!
mrtybrodur30Yahoo! Group Page
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hockeyinformermoneyleague

There has been interest from other members on HI to join and mrtybrodur30 hasn't contacted me for a few days. Should we honour his commitment or look elsewhere for our last member?

[Dubz]

Give him a deadline and advise the other prospective manager you are doing so.

[TheThrash]

So its going to be 8 total I take it?

[keyboard]

So its going to be 8 total I take it?Well, we have 2 people interested in taking the one remaining spot if mrty doesn't show up. If he does, I'll open the registration and allow them to sign up and we'll have 10.

[keyboard]

Y! = Joined Yahoo! Group
$ = Paid $50 Fee
Y! = Joined Yahoo! League
kamranish Y! $ Y!
arexjay Y! $ Y!
moans Y! $ Y!
Hoo Hoo Howie Y! $ Y!
TheThrash Y! Y!
Pete Y! Y!
sdubzz Y! $ Y!
mrtybrodur30 Y!
aaron_is_nufc $ Y!
RJV Y!

[TheThrash]

thats looking good. 10 is solid.

[keyboard]

Please vote in the poll I created in the Yahoo! group for the draft time that best accommodates you. Vote for all applicable times.

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/hockeyinformermoneyleague/surveys?id=2429629

[arexjay]

edit: probably EST or something around there

[moans]

did you edit the time out Arex?

[arexjay]

I was asking if the time was listen in PST or EST, then I saw the options on the poll ranging from 9 PM to 11 PPM, and just assumed it would be something closer to EST.

[keyboard]

I was asking if the time was listen in PST or EST, then I saw the options on the poll ranging from 9 PM to 11 PPM, and just assumed it would be something closer to EST.Oh, sorry. I should have specified. It's in EDT.

[keyboard]

Right now it's looking like Sunday, September 28, 2008 9PM EDT. 2 members still have to vote.

[keyboard]

I've given all members who haven't paid the league fee a deadline of Friday. If they don't reply by Friday then I'm afraid they will have to be removed from the league so we don't run into complications on draft day. Does anyone have an issues with this?

[keyboard]

Y! = Joined Yahoo! Group
$ = Paid $50 Fee
Y! = Joined Yahoo! League
kamranish Y! $ Y!
arexjay Y! $ Y!
moans Y! $ Y!
Hoo Hoo Howie Y! $ Y!
TheThrash Y! Y! $
aaron_is_nufc Y! $ Y!
sdubzz Y! $ Y!
Pete Y! Y!
RJV Y! Y!
mrtybrodur30 Y!

[Dubz]

I have a draft on that Sunday @ 8:30

[keyboard]

Y! = Joined Yahoo! Group
$ = Paid $50 Fee
Y! = Joined Yahoo! League
kamranish Y! $ Y!
arexjay Y! $ Y!
moans Y! $ Y!
Hoo Hoo Howie Y! $ Y!
TheThrash Y! Y! $
aaron_is_nufc Y! $ Y!
sdubzz Y! $ Y!
mrtybrodur30 Y! Y! $
Pete Y! Y!
RJV Y! Y!

[keyboard]

I have a draft on that Sunday @ 8:30Does that mean you can't draft at 9:30? The problem is so far 7 people have confirmed that Sunday at 9PM works for them. The next closest time is 4 people on Saturday night. Take a look at the poll in the Yahoo! group and let me know what you decide.

[TheThrash]

The day is coming fast, we need a set time so I know when i gotta be drafting

[keyboard]

The day is coming fast, we need a set time so I know when i gotta be draftingIt's going to be 9:30 PM EST on Sunday.

[Dubz]

It's going to be 9:30 PM EST on Sunday.

Yeah thats OK....I wish I would have known sooner but I think Ill be nearing the end of the 3rd draft of the day....It Looks like ill have 4 drafts in 6 hrs.:\
9:00 would be too early...If you could do 9:45 that would be ideal...I know it 15 mins for everyone but It'll make a big difference for me . Either way ill be there...thanks

[keyboard]

Bad news, guys. RJV cannot join the league so we're down to 9. Time to scramble and see if we can get anyone else to join.

[TheThrash]

shit see i knew this was going to happen. We need to get someone in now to ensure we actually have a league to play in!

[Dubz]

WE NEED ONE MORE PLAYER WITH $50 TO JOIN THIS LEAGUE


If that doesnt work....we will have to make a cut???
RJV you are on my list....If you dont send them live game reports on your phone you may never be forgiven.

[Hoo Hoo Howie]

WE NEED ONE MORE PLAYER WITH $50 TO JOIN THIS LEAGUE


If that doesnt work....we will have to make a cut???
RJV you are on my list....If you dont send them live game reports on your phone you may never be forgiven.

Hey guys. I don't want to give the wrong impression, b/c I WANT to play in this league. But, with that said, if we ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO make a cut, I'll volunteer. Time is tight for me this year (working full time, finishing school, and I'll be disappearing from the end of December through February to study for the bar exam), so one less fantasy team wouldn't kill me.

Again, I'd like us to try and find another guy to make 10, but if we can't find one, I can take the cut.

[keyboard]

Right now if we can't find a 10th member it is Pete who will be cut, only because he's the only member who hasn't paid.

I'll try one last ditch effort to get another member by the end of tomorrow night.

[TheThrash]

there are some people on the yahoo fantasy hockey message boards that are looking for money leagues t play in, maybe try there if all else fails

[keyboard]

Okay, we have to make some decisions. We currently have 9 members, so we can do one of the following:

1. Play H2H with a bye week
2. Switch to points or a roto style league and stay with 9
3. I've had some volunteers to drop out of the league, so we could get it down to 8
4. Wait until Sunday to see if we can find someone on HI
5. Invite someone not on the message board

Let me know what you guys think.

[arexjay]

I'd like to invite someone not on the board or get it down to 8 (or wait for someone else, but it doesn't look like that's likely to work). I think bye's are pretty weak, and I'd much prefer head to head.

So, #4 and #5 first, and then #3

[Dubz]

I wont play with a bye week.Ill pass. Just leave it at the original 8 which included Pete. If he does want to pay and play. I agree he hasnt payed but was first to join. Right? If hes out then let the last manager in. Either way....lets roll.

[moans]

I think having a bye week is out of the question, I'm okay with inviting anyone to join.

[keyboard]

Well, if we don't find someone to join by Sunday afternoon I don't think I'll have a problem dropping the league down to 8. Start asking around, see if you know anyone who might want to join.

[moans]

off topic, we should have an HI poker tourney tmw

[Hoo Hoo Howie]

I'm against a bye-week as well, and I'm not a fan of non-H2H leagues.

[TheThrash]

I dont want a bye week either

[TheThrash]

Kam, Do we have another player for tomorrow morning's draft or what?

[keyboard]

Kam, Do we have another player for tomorrow morning's draft or what?It looks like we won't find the 10th member. Here is the situation: 1 member in our pool has contacted me and volunteered to leave if we do not find a 10th member, however, 1 member (not the same person) has not paid but has told me they will and I believe them. However, if they do not pay in time but intend to, should we keep paid members in or should we take up the member who requested to leave and let the other member stay and pay probably after the draft?

1. Volunteering paid member leaves, unpaid member stays
2. Unpaid member is removed, paid member who volunteered to leave stays

[Hoo Hoo Howie]

Not trying to be an ass to the guy who hasn't paid yet but said he will, is there any reason he can't pay you now? Has he said he'll pay you by a certain date?

[keyboard]

Not trying to be an ass to the guy who hasn't paid yet but said he will, is there any reason he can't pay you now? Has he said he'll pay you by a certain date?He is setting up his PayPal account.

[TheThrash]

i say one who doesnt pay, gets booted

[TheThrash]

3 hours till draft, whats going on???

[keyboard]

Pete will be removed from the league. Pete, I hate to do it to you but with so little time left it seems like the right thing to do.

[Dubz]

:wave:
I know he would have been a fun manager. Oh well it is what it is.

[Dubz]

Can you let me know that I have Ovechkin in advance? Id like to do a little planning.

[keyboard]

Can you let me know that I have Ovechkin in advance? Id like to do a little planning.Trying to flex your moderator muscle? It won't work on me! :lol:

[WIS]

Pete will be removed from the league. Pete, I hate to do it to you but with so little time left it seems like the right thing to do.
Thanks :yes:

I'm glad I spent time preparing for this league only to get shafted.
Wasn't I one of the first to sign up for this anyway?

I know I didn't get a chance to pay and it's because I had to setup a Paypal account. I have been immensely busy and fantasy is supposed to be for downtime yet you make it seem like it should be my first priority. I'm peeved because you know I'm good for my word and this is what I get...

[Hoo Hoo Howie]

Thanks :yes:

I'm glad I spent time preparing for this league only to get shafted.
Wasn't I one of the first to sign up for this anyway?

I know I didn't get a chance to pay and it's because I had to setup a Paypal account. I have been immensely busy and fantasy is supposed to be for downtime yet you make it seem like it should be my first priority. I'm peeved because you know I'm good for my word and this is what I get...

Pete - can you come up w/ the money tonight? As I said earlier, I'm going to be really short on time for the next few months and I wouldn't mind giving up my spot if need be...

[WIS]

Pete - can you come up w/ the money tonight? As I said earlier, I'm going to be really short on time for the next few months and I wouldn't mind giving up my spot if need be...
Hey HHH, I appreciate, really, I do. You're a good guy so stay if you want.
I'm not sure if I can set up the account and transfer all before the draft unfortunately.

[keyboard]

Well, in order its moans and then Hoo Hoo Howie who will leave to make room for Pete.

[WIS]

Well, in order its moans and then Hoo Hoo Howie who will leave to make room for Pete.
Sorry guys I had to vent there for a sec because I've never been kicked out of any league before. I just thought you guys did it because you didn't want me to win the entire pot :p
No but seriously I don't want anybody getting kicked out because of me.

[keyboard]

Personally I have nothing against the bye week but now the draft is set, so I'm afraid things are in motion. Again, Pete, sincerely, I apologize.

[arexjay]

first pick, eh kam?

[WIS]

Personally I have nothing against the bye week but now the draft is set, so I'm afraid things are in motion. Again, Pete, sincerely, I apologize.
Apology accepted. Carelessness on both sides really and I wish it'd had turn out better...
first pick, eh kam?
It's a scam! Phew I'm glad I'm not in it :p Kidding!

[moans]

bastard!!

[keyboard]

Draft is on, boys.

[keyboard]

Nothing to report.

[keyboard]

First and second look to be pulling away. A forum moderator and commissioner... can anyone say collusion? :lol:

[Hoo Hoo Howie]

First and second look to be pulling away. A forum moderator and commissioner... can anyone say collusion? :lol:

lol! You sons of bitches!

Speaking of this league, it's a lot of fun, but I'm still having trouble trying to manage in an 8 teamer (I've never managed in a league this small). I'm on a 3 week losing streak, and every time I look at my roster to get rid of some dead weight, I can't find anyone to drop! It's very challenging in a different way.

[keyboard]

lol! You sons of bitches!

Speaking of this league, it's a lot of fun, but I'm still having trouble trying to manage in an 8 teamer (I've never managed in a league this small). I'm on a 3 week losing streak, and every time I look at my roster to get rid of some dead weight, I can't find anyone to drop! It's very challenging in a different way.I know how you feel. I see some FAs I want but then look at the roster and just sort of go blank. Hopefully if this league runs successfully we'll be able to get 10 people or drop the buy-in to $40 or something. It's still pretty competitive though, all things considered.

[Hoo Hoo Howie]

I know how you feel. I see some FAs I want but then look at the roster and just sort of go blank. Hopefully if this league runs successfully we'll be able to get 10 people or drop the buy-in to $40 or something. It's still pretty competitive though, all things considered.

Agreed. That's why I prefaced my complaint/comment/problem (whatever) with stating that I'm having a lot of fun, which I am. It definitely is still competitive, which is great.

[keyboard]

Okay, I'll need everyone to agree to shortening the trade reject time before we can actually do it. Mostly I'd like Mike and Andrew to be okay with it, since they had to wait the full amount of time. I have no preference on the new reject time so if anyone has a suggestion go ahead and post it.

[Dubz]

2 days

[keyboard]

Okay, I have posted the trade on the HI boards. No one from this league may vote on the poll due to bias. If people find the trade fair I will push it through tonight.

Any questions?

[keyboard]

Damn, sdubzz's team was ridiculous last week.

[Dubz]

Lets hope we can put a few weeks together like that when it really counts.
Thanks

[keyboard]

I sent some private messages regarding trades. I don't want to propose them because there's no communication there. Let me know, guys.

[keyboard]

It's coming down to the wire for the regular season winner. This is the only time in the year I wish I had Stat Tracker.

[moans]

you're winning according to my stat tracker.

[keyboard]

Good luck to everyone in the playoffs.

[Dubz]

Thanks...for the record Im still bitter about the payout structure. Damn democracy:p

[keyboard]

Thanks...for the record Im still bitter about the payout structure. Damn democracy:pI think I was the one who really, really didn't want the regular season winner to get paid. Go figure.

[keyboard]

Congratulations to the guys who advanced.

[Hoo Hoo Howie]

Thanks, kam. I'd wish you good luck, but hopefully this is the end of the line for you ;)

[keyboard]

Thanks, kam. I'd wish you good luck, but hopefully this is the end of the line for you ;)My lineup is finally healthy with Sharp and Gaborik back, so I'm feeling good.

[Hoo Hoo Howie]

My lineup is finally healthy with Sharp and Gaborik back, so I'm feeling good.

I hear you. Your team is definitely scary w/ Gaborik and Sharp back. Sharp had an awesome debut the other night and Gaborik seems to put up points right away after returning from his injuries. I'm hoping that AO only playing twice this week gives my offense a chance against you. We shall see.

[keyboard]

I hear you. Your team is definitely scary w/ Gaborik and Sharp back. Sharp had an awesome debut the other night and Gaborik seems to put up points right away after returning from his injuries. I'm hoping that AO only playing twice this week gives my offense a chance against you. We shall see.Yeah, that's kind of rough. Also, depending on how ANA and DET platoon, you could come out huge there, too. I think I can only beat you with my offensive numbers, because I believe your goaltending has got me beat.

[keyboard]

Not that I think any of the teams not in the finals are going to make moves, but should I lock them anyway?

[Dubz]

I dont have a problem with it if you lock them. The teams from 5th place down should not touch FA during the last 2 weeks.... It should actually be a rule but its not.

[Dubz]

I dont have a problem with it if you lock them. The teams from 5th place down should not touch FA during the last 2 weeks.... It should actually be a rule but its not.

I should put that rule in the Y! feedback thread.

[keyboard]

I should put that rule in the Y! feedback thread.I guess because people still could technically compete so they finish higher for their overall ranking on their profiles. I'll wait for a few members of our league to reply before doing it, though I think they know better.

[moans]

I don't think you should, I really want to ensure I win 5th spot:D.

[keyboard]

Gaborik sure is making up for lost time, at Howie's expense.

[Hoo Hoo Howie]

As long as the "consolation standings" don't have any effect on the payouts (which they don't here), then I see no problem locking the teams that are out. Then again, as was said already, I doubt anyone does anything stupid in this league, and if they did, you can obviously just reversee any changes they make if need be.

As for our matchup, I know I was the underdog here, but DAMN, I expected to at least be competitive! You are destroying me. So much for Osgood and his "turnaround." Gaborik certainly doesn't help either, as you mentioned.

[keyboard]

Crazy battle going on. Good luck to both of you guys.

[Dubz]

Should be interesting....I knew he was gonna load up. Lots of fun, win or lose..... I'll be back.

[keyboard]

Auld not starting will help you a lot. Nice break there.

[Dubz]

Yeah...Im chewing on that right now.

[Hoo Hoo Howie]

Congrats to the finalists.

BTW, Kam. Nice job - you DESTROYED me! Good luck.

[keyboard]

Congrats to the finalists.

BTW, Kam. Nice job - you DESTROYED me! Good luck.Thanks. Good luck with third place.

The commissioner and moderator square off. May the best team win.

[Dubz]

Thanks. Good luck with third place.

The commissioner and moderator square off. May the best team win.

I've already won.....just being a part of it has me all tingly inside.
:dq:



:lol:

[keyboard]

I've already won.....just being a part of it has me all tingly inside.
:dq:



:lol:Why don't we split 1st and 2nd place, and play a little heads up poker? :lol:

[Dubz]

Why don't we split 1st and 2nd place, and play a little heads up poker? :lol:

Trying to improve your odds?:D

Good Luck in the finals.

[keyboard]

:lol:

[keyboard]

Nervous?

[Dubz]

Im pretty much toast. ;) Realized that on Wednesday I think.
Good Job, Congrats

:beer:

[keyboard]

Final Standings


kamranish $180
sdubzz $100
aaron_is_nufc $80
Hoo Hoo Howie
moans
TheThrash
arexjay
mrtybrodur30

Congratulations to all the winners. If you guys could fire me a PM with your PayPal emails I'll send you your money. Hope to see you all next year.

[mike550]

Ah looks like this was a real fun pool with some serious money. Only 8 people but a total of 360 bucks? So the buy in was 45 bucks? Interesting.

Will have to get in on this next season.

[keyboard]

Ah looks like this was a real fun pool with some serious money. Only 8 people but a total of 360 bucks? So the buy in was 45 bucks? Interesting.

Will have to get in on this next season.10% went to the regular season winner. It was fun. The finals was offense vs. goaltending, so I'm real happy there are more offensive categories. I know sdubzz knows what I mean. :lol:

[Dubz]

I have many excuses.....my wifes heard them all:D

[Dubz]

Yeah....I heard something about Kam bowing out of FH next year. Dont worry guys Ill keep this league going.

:yes:


Thanks Guys......lotsa fun. I would like to get a few more teams next year thoough.