Brand Spankin' New Dynasty League

[hc_aysche]

Me and a couple of other guys are setting up a dynasty. This one will have 12 teams and a lot of categories. Chime in if you'd like to apply. I'll post details later..

[1158]

nm

[suckerpuncher]

Sounds great. I'm in.

[dw13]

Would definitely be interested given some more details.

[Winger72]

Interested, but would like some details first.

[HABS_FrEaK]

I might be interested depending on the exact format of the league
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[1158]

I might be interested depending on the exact format of the league


You don't want this guy...he'll totally ruin your league. :evilgrin::D:evilgrin::D:evilgrin::D


Just kidding

[HABS_FrEaK]

You don't want this guy...he'll totally ruin your league. :evilgrin::D:evilgrin::D:evilgrin::D


Just kidding


If by ruin you mean dominate...yeah probably :D





Says the guy who finished 4th lol
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[washcaps119]

I may be interested... want more information.

[t4k9]

interested, if it is a dynesty where we keep all guys.

[Snipes16]

I'll apply

[szuturon]

I would like to take a spot in this league if there are any left.

[hc_aysche]

Now, Here's what we know.


1 - We are playing Head to head. (12 teams)

The Yahoo standard is great for roto but not so great for H2H play. So, what we're going to do is expand the categories in an effort to make the game less dull with ties and the such.






2 - That we will be using these goalie categories:

W,L,SHO,GA,SA,SVs

What we don't know is what skater categories we want to use. Do we want the goalies to have an equal value to skaters? Or, Do we want skaters to have more play on how our weeks turn out?

Here are the categories we will use for skaters:

G,A,PPP,SHP,PIM,plus/minus,SOG.. An Idea is to expand the categories further. How we can do this is to re-add GWG and to break down PPP into PPG and PPA. If we did this, we'd have a 9x6 format in favor of the skaters and, at the same time, open up the door for a more total game play experience.

Here's my 9x6 proposal broken down:

Skaters

G,A,PPG,PPA,SHP,PIM,Plus/Minus,SOG,GWG for a total of 9 categories.

Goalies

W,L,SHO,SA,GA,SV for a total of 6 categories.






3 - We will be using these roster positions:

C
C
C

RW
RW

LW
LW

D
D
D

G
G

UTIL
UTIL

BN
BN
BN
BN
BN
BN

That's a total of 14 starting spots and 6 bench spots for a total of 20 spots. This will have us draft 240 players (In the 12 team setting) which does not include prospects.

The whole idea of adding another center is to get the best players on our rosters for any given day while reducing the need to carry too may crap D's. Most of us will ride 2-3 D anyway. Plus, with the extra UTIL slot, you can add the missing D there if you are so inclined. This standard opens up various strategies and works wonders in a H2H money league I'm in along with my keeper points league.






4 - 50 move cap. We have been using this number for years in our leagues and it works fine. That breaks down to just over 2 moves per week. Plus, we'd allow the inclusion of moves in trades.







5 - We will use the maximum amount of IR spots Yahoo allows which is 5.







6 - We know that we're going to have 2 separate drafts. 1 standard draft for vets(Once the Yahoo game fires up) and another for prospects not yet added to the Yahoo database. We'll have to do the prospect draft AFTER the standard draft just for year one in order to avoid conflicts. After year one, we will do our prospect draft just after the NHL entry draft has been conducted then have our short, 6-8 player standard draft.

Also, when we complete both inaugural drafts, we can begin to send players to the farm and call up players from the farm. We will be afforded unlimited moves up to the drop of the puck which begins the 08-09 fantasy season and before every season to come. But, once the season begins, the 50 move cap will be in effect.


Also, to move a player to the big squad and to the farm may require you to drop a player. A player that has not played 82 games will not be subject to waivers. But, any player that has played over 82 games is subject to waivers. What this means is that you can send down a drafted vet to your farm during the season only. So as long as that player is not claimed via waivers. Also, any player can remain on your farm when he eclipses the 82 game threshold but will have to be protected as a vet if you wish to retain that player for the forthcoming season.







3 things we don't know.

Keepers

How many to keep we ask? I say we keep 12 non farm players with a 2 goalie cap. I don't like the idea of keeping more than 14, however. let's see what we can work out.



Farm

How many do we want? I say 6 or 8 depending on how many vets we keep. I'd like to keep a cumulative total of 20 (Vets and farm combined). Let's iron this out.


Name of league.

We'll come up with a few names and vote on this at a later date.

I think I pretty much covered all the main issues. But, It's one of those days when I'm drawing blanks. What I'll do for updates is write them in red.


Suckerpuncher will co-commish with me.


Max teams will be 12 and, just so you guys know, this is not a 1st come 1st serve league. We plan on this dynasty lasting a long, long time.

[t4k9]

Becasue this is a dynasty, the inaugural draft is extremely important. I'd prefer a slow semi-live draft with trades rather than a live 3-hour draft to decide the fate of teams.

[LFk]

I'm definitely interested in a dynasty, and will apply.

I read over the rules... they sound pretty good.

[Snipes16]

Becasue this is a dynasty, the inaugural draft is extremely important. I'd prefer a slow semi-live draft with trades rather than a live 3-hour draft to decide the fate of teams.

I agree with this sentiment.

[szuturon]

Why would you add a Saves and Shots against catagory. Most weeks, the winner of one of these catagories will be taking the other anyway. Why not take out one of them to put in Goals against average.

[hc_aysche]

The draft will be live..There will be plenty of time in advance to prepare before we draft live..

[WinnipegWingnut]

I'm in.

[HABS_FrEaK]

The draft will be live..There will be plenty of time in advance to prepare before we draft live..


You wanna do a live draft with 12 people who mainly don't know each other? With some bound to be in different timezones?

That would be almost impossible.

Well personally that's my only problem with the league, although the SA vs Saves comment made a lot of sense to.
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[hc_aysche]

Live drafts are common and work quite well.

This isn't going to be a standard yahoo league. The categories are listed above.

[HABS_FrEaK]

Live drafts are common and work quite well.

This isn't going to be a standard yahoo league. The categories are listed above.

I know that what I meant is having Saves AND Shots against seems kinda weird. Like someone else posted earlier.


Anyways if this is going to be a live draft in September there is no way I will be able to make it within the typical yahoo hours with Football, work and school so you can just ignore my opinion hahah
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[Munchos]

Are you still looking for people to join? If you are I am very interested in joining the league. Email me ryangeorge_19@yahoo.com or georgekoff@hotmail.com if you are still looking for someone.

[Shady6833]

I would be intrested as well if you are still looking for people to join.

[washcaps119]

I may be interested... want more information.

I'm still interested, but I don't completely agree with the categories.

For instance... goalies... why include losses? What not use the percentages like GAA and SV%?

Therefore...

W, ShO, GAA, SV% - I think the standard goalie categories work out just fine.

Skaters...

G, A, PPG, PPA, SH Points, PIM, SOG, Faceoff Wins for 8 categories. Therefore 8x4...

I'm a fan of faceoff wins and would place value on the centers, since there is a third center added to the roster slots.

I do like your roster positions though.

Finally... I'm okay with either a forum draft or a live draft. I don't have a problem with either. With a forum draft, however, there would be more opportunity to think through selections. Give a limit for each team of 12 or 24 hours to make a pick and the draft could be done in two weeks if the dedication is there.

[szuturon]

I personally like the loss catagory for goalies. In instances where one team has 2 goalies playing on the same night against each other. I feel with a loss catagory, the manager must decide if taking a potential loss (barring OTL) is worth the definate win.

[hc_aysche]

I personally like the loss catagory for goalies. In instances where one team has 2 goalies playing on the same night against each other. I feel with a loss catagory, the manager must decide if taking a potential loss (barring OTL) is worth the definate win.


Yeah, losses work very well!

[szuturon]

I do agree with wash's point of using the sv% and gaa catagories though. Like I said before having a shots against and a saves catagory is rather redundant.

[hc_aysche]

I don't think it is. sv% produces an entirely different cat. as those 2 combined. 35 saves and 4 goals against vs 22 saves and 3 goals against is the way it will playout more times than not. With one winning and one losing. The inclusion of those 2 cats is what makes the loss category hold its weight as well. This is H2H so everything changes on a week by week, game by game basis. This opens the door to an entirely different strategy. Yeah, you get saves, but goals against may go up and the probability of a loss increases. The inclusion of SA will reward the goalies that are truly making the stops such as Florida's Vokoun last season. I look at it in the same light as Points vs PPP's for skaters. Which, we can make equally redundant if we so choose.

[1158]

The live draft rules me out of this league, but with your skater cats, you might also want to consider using points.

I have been in leagues with and without points as a cat and I like having it. If one team gets 10G and 20A and the other team gets 9G and 40A is 1-1 really fair? Seems to me the second team deserves another point. Just my thinking...

[hc_aysche]

The live draft rules me out of this league, but with your skater cats, you might also want to consider using points.

I have been in leagues with and without points as a cat and I like having it. If one team gets 10G and 20A and the other team gets 9G and 40A is 1-1 really fair? Seems to me the second team deserves another point. Just my thinking...


Yeah...It's a dynasty. Can't have an AUTO draft for one of these. That would kind of defeat the point.

[dw13]

Yeah...It's a dynasty. Can't have an AUTO draft for one of these. That would kind of defeat the point.

He was talking about a semi-live forum draft I think. Not an Auto draft. :lol:

[1158]

Yeah...It's a dynasty. Can't have an AUTO draft for one of these. That would kind of defeat the point.

Yeah, semi live, 12 to 18 hours per pick. Has worked well in the 3 leagues I'm in.

[dw13]

Yeah, semi live, 12 to 18 hours per pick. Has worked well in the 3 leagues I'm in.

:D

[HABS_FrEaK]

Yeah...It's a dynasty. Can't have an AUTO draft for one of these. That would kind of defeat the point.

haha yeah obviously not a auto draft that would suck lol

Semi live is deff the way to go :yes:
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[hc_aysche]

We have filled up quite nicely. I have extended invites to fill the final 2 slots remaining but have yet to get back with me. I'm giving to August 1st for them to reply. If not, is anyone else interested?

[moans]

I think I could do 1 more team if it's avail.

[Shady6833]

I would be interested if something opens up

[hc_aysche]

OK...Sounds good to me. I'll keep you guys posted.

[hc_aysche]

anyone else?

[washcaps119]

anyone else?
How about a little more details for those still interested instead of the vague "I'll keep you posted" stuff?

[hc_aysche]

well, there is one more spot left right now.

Everything has been conducted via email, ect.. That is, for the people serious on joining.

PM your MSN IM and I'll fill you in with everything along with asking you a few things as well.

[washcaps119]

well, there is one more spot left right now.

Everything has been conducted via email, ect.. That is, for the people serious on joining.

PM your MSN IM and I'll fill you in with everything along with asking you a few things as well.
I don't use MSN - PM me here, because I am still interested.

[hc_aysche]

I don't use MSN - PM me here, because I am still interested.


OK...We'll start here. What do you want to know?

[washcaps119]

OK...We'll start here. What do you want to know?

Check your PM... sorry if I came across harsh - just waiting anxiously for this.

[hc_aysche]

Check your PM... sorry if I came across harsh - just waiting anxiously for this.


Well, that worked out.

Glad to have ya, bro!

We should be filled...

But, 1 guy has yet to join the board...So, may need 1 more yet.