Suggestions on my 9th overall pick(keeper)

[Kaboominator]

I am approaching my pick (2 managers still ahead of me) in a 10 team 12 man keeper league. We keep 11 skaters and 1 goalie. I also get to pick again in 2 more as it is snake style. Below i will list some of the top talent up for grabs and i'd like to get some suggestion. My keepers are in sig...

goalies

Ward
Toskala
Turco
Gerber
Thomas
Theodore
Bryzgalov
Fleury
Kolzig



skaters

Joe Sakic
Jason Arnott
Johan Franzen
Mike Knuble
Chris Kunitz
Markus Naslund
Milan Lucic
Ryan Malone
Dustin Penner
Brian Rolston
Jordan Staal
Nikolai Zherdev
Brandon Dubinsky
Michael Nylander
Andy McDonald
Joe Pavelski
Jeff Halpern
Chris Neil
Drew Stafford
Fabian Brunnstrom
Sean Avery
Patrick Eaves
Mike Comrie
Martin Erat
Mikko Koivu
Eric Perrin
Tuomo Ruutu
Andrew Cogliano
Keith Tkachuk
Antoine Vermette
David Vborny
Travis Zajac
Phil Kessel
Patrick O'Sullivan
Blake Wheeler
Michael Ryder
Miro Satan

Defense


Erik Johnson
Niklas Kronwall
Kevin Bieksa
Brent Burns
Matt Carle
Ron Hainsey
Mattias Ohlund
Sergei Zubov
Joni Pitkanen
Kimmo Timmonen
Duncan Keith
Kris Letang
Sheldon Souray
Sami Salo
Cristian Ehrhoff
Shane O'Brien
Paul Ranger
Braydon Coburn
Drew Doughty
Scott Neidermayer
Dustin Byfuglien

Based on my already exisitng team what route should i take here? Goalie then forward?

[chgorman]

Grab Turco or Fleury, and then the best RW available with your next pick.

[snoopzen]

None of the forwards or defensemen there jump out at me, and it might be a good idea to get your goaltending situation squared away. I'd probably grab one of

Ward
Turco
Bryzgalov
Fleury

to go along with Luongo.

[Kaboominator]

I got Turco now i must make another pick. Should i pick Osgood or Theodore and have all my goalies set? Cause the forwards arent nothing great but the jackasses above me never drafted goalies so I can move one of my golaies for a better forward?

[Hawkeye]

Grab Turco or Fleury, and then the best RW available with your next pick.

Ditto... and no to Osgood and Theo... I would only take a 3rd goalie in few rounds still

[Dubz]

If Fleury was still there I would say grab him because you could land top talent for him later. Theo=NOT. Ozzy has got to be tempting though....

[moans]

I probably would have went with a younger guy over Turco, either Fleury or Bryz. Some players I would keep an eye on are: EJ, Kessel, O Sully, Zherdev, Franzen, Kronwall and Pitkanen. I would also look at taking Niedermeyer for his last year.

[Kaboominator]

Thank you...top RW available...

Knuble
Malone
Penner?
Zherdev
Stafford
what is Brunnstrom?
Vborny
Ryder(most likely being fed by Savard,gamble)

[Kaboominator]

Yea Fleury was taken the pick just before me! and Bryz right after my Turco pick. We only allowed to keep one goalie and i have Luongo so im thinking this year only for goalies and Dallas looks to be very strong.

[snoopzen]

Those 3 goalies went pretty much as I would have taken them... Fleury, then Turco, then Bryz. Especially if you're looking at them on a one-year basis.

I would love for you to go after O'Sully. He's a very talented player (90+ pt upside)... however you're kind of loaded at C and at LW (where he may well be eligible for this season playing w/ Jokinen + Doan).

If you're looking for a RW, I'd have to say Zherdev first, as he's got a good situation (I think) with the NYR. Beyond that, I'd probably say it's a bit of a toss-up between Knuble, Ryder, Penner and Malone.

[chgorman]

Don't count out Rolston either, unless he's already gone. He's good for 30 goals, dynamite if sog are a cat (300+ just about every season), should have solid +/- in NJ, wil most likely be playing with Elias and/or Parise, and gets dual eligibility every year. He won't be somebody that you'll keep long term, but he should def help you next season, and I feel Zherdev is a little iffy.

If Rolston is gone, then I agree with the others, Zherdev, Knuble, Ryder, Penner and Malone are your best bets. Of that group, I like Knuble because he does it all, however with the depth PHI has at fwd, he may not get optimal playing time.

If you're not too happy with any of those options, then take a shot with OZ and look to move him or Turco for a significant upgrade at RW from one of the teams that missed out on the top tenders and are now grasping at straws to fill their holes in net.

[Kaboominator]

Don't count out Rolston either, unless he's already gone. He's good for 30 goals, dynamite if sog are a cat (300+ just about every season), should have solid +/- in NJ, wil most likely be playing with Elias and/or Parise, and gets dual eligibility every year. He won't be somebody that you'll keep long term, but he should def help you next season, and I feel Zherdev is a little iffy.

If Rolston is gone, then I agree with the others, Zherdev, Knuble, Ryder, Penner and Malone are your best bets. Of that group, I like Knuble because he does it all, however with the depth PHI has at fwd, he may not get optimal playing time.

If you're not too happy with any of those options, then take a shot with OZ and look to move him or Turco for a significant upgrade at RW from one of the teams that missed out on the top tenders and are now grasping at straws to fill their holes in net.

I've always liked Rolston and he is available. SOG is a cat! I never gave him much though but you bring up good points...very tough...

[chgorman]

I've always liked Rolston and he is available. SOG is a cat! I never gave him much though but you bring up good points...very tough...

I think a lot of ppl will underestimate what he'll do this yr, or overlook him altogether, simply because he went to NJ, but it's a very similar situation there to the situation he was in in Minny where he thrived (defence first team), and he may get better linemates in NJ. He'll almost surely be on the point on the PP for NJ, as they don't have many offensive weapons on D. Like I say, he probably won't be a guy you'll keep around long term (seing as he's 35), however he should be a decent addition for this year, and maybe another year or two after if you do decide to keep him.

[Dubz]

Thank you...top RW available...

Knuble
Malone
Penner?
Zherdev
Stafford
what is Brunnstrom?
Vborny
Ryder(most likely being fed by Savard,gamble)

Wheres Rolston:wtf::lol:

I agree Rolston is a leader and tops anyone on that list. Scratch Vyborny he is looking for a contract still isnt he?

There are a couple of good options there and they seem pretty equal. 3 have found new teams but have plenty of time to gel. I guess Penner would be a PP1 lock.

[Kaboominator]

Wheres Rolston:wtf::lol:

I agree Rolston is a leader and tops anyone on that list. Scratch Vyborny he is looking for a contract still isnt he?

There are a couple of good options there and they seem pretty equal. 3 have found new teams but have plenty of time to gel. I guess Penner would be a PP1 lock.


Yea i didn't quite pick him out of my top list!

I think i may bite the bullet and do a Rolston!

[snoopzen]

Good call on Rolston... I was just looking at the list Kaboom put out there, but Rolston would be tops on my list. He's solid all-around, and the extra position eligibilities is just a bonus.

[Hawkeye]

Good call on Rolston... I was just looking at the list Kaboom put out there, but Rolston would be tops on my list. He's solid all-around, and the extra position eligibilities is just a bonus.

And if the league counts SHG, that's another bonus

[Katharsis]

Those 3 goalies went pretty much as I would have taken them... Fleury, then Turco, then Bryz. Especially if you're looking at them on a one-year basis.

I would love for you to go after O'Sully. He's a very talented player (90+ pt upside)... however you're kind of loaded at C and at LW (where he may well be eligible for this season playing w/ Jokinen + Doan).

If you're looking for a RW, I'd have to say Zherdev first, as he's got a good situation (I think) with the NYR. Beyond that, I'd probably say it's a bit of a toss-up between Knuble, Ryder, Penner and Malone.

You're thinking Mueller there, not Patio, although the situations are eerily similar...

Natural centers turned LW; Kopitar + Brown vs. Jokinen + Doan.

But yeah, Kaboom, get O'Sullivan if you can. He's primed for a big step this year, approaching 70 points on an all offense team.

[chgorman]

Kaboom - may be too late, and very sorry for possibly misleading you with Rolston, but sounds like NJ may have him centering the top line, meaning he may not get the RW positional eligibility you need, unfortunately. Sorry 'bout that. Had I known earlier, I wouldn't have suggested him given your need at RW. Now you'll be absolutely loaded at C.

If it makes you feel any better, he's still a better option/more valuable than the guys you listed, and if he doesn't get RW eligibility, you could probably move him to a team in need of a C and sog, in return for a RW better than the guys left on the list, and you still make out alright.

[snoopzen]

You're thinking Mueller there, not Patio, although the situations are eerily similar...

Natural centers turned LW; Kopitar + Brown vs. Jokinen + Doan.

But yeah, Kaboom, get O'Sullivan if you can. He's primed for a big step this year, approaching 70 points on an all offense team.Oops! :$

Yeah, sorry about that. I've got both on a keeper team, and tend to get the two mixed up.

Like Katharsis said, 60-70 pts this year, 80-90+ potential on an up-and-coming LA team.

[Kaboominator]

Kaboom - may be too late, and very sorry for possibly misleading you with Rolston, but sounds like NJ may have him centering the top line, meaning he may not get the RW positional eligibility you need, unfortunately. Sorry 'bout that. Had I known earlier, I wouldn't have suggested him given your need at RW. Now you'll be absolutely loaded at C.

If it makes you feel any better, he's still a better option/more valuable than the guys you listed, and if he doesn't get RW eligibility, you could probably move him to a team in need of a C and sog, in return for a RW better than the guys left on the list, and you still make out alright.

Lol awesome....hehe oh well. I can always make some moves. Maybe you can give me some advice on my next two picks...So far i have gotten Turco and Rolston. I now have the 29th and 32nd overall picks coming up. I need to decide what to do. Here are some of the available talents left.

Joe SakicJason ArnottChris KunitzMilan LucicRyan MaloneDustin PennerJordan StaalBrandon DubinskyMichael NylanderAndy McDonaldJeff HalpernChris NeilDrew StaffordFabian BrunnstromPatrick EavesMike ComrieMartin EratMikko KoivuEric PerrinTuomo RuutuAndrew CoglianoKeith TkachukAntoine VermetteDavid VbornyTravis ZajacPhil KesselPatrick O'SullivanBlake WheelerMichael RyderMiro SatanRJ UmbergerAndrew BrunnetteDaniel CarcilloSergei SamsonovJamie LangenbrunnerNikita Filatov

Erik JohnsonNiklas KronwallKevin BieksaMatt CarleRon HainseyMattias OhlundSergei ZubovJoni PitkanenKimmo TimmonenDuncan KeithKris LetangSheldon SouraySami SaloCristian EhrhoffShane O'BrienPaul RangerBraydon CoburnDrew DoughtyDustin Byfuglien


EDIT: lol sorry about the list...not good...

[Kaboominator]

I was just thinking. Why would Rolston Center top line? What about Parise or Elias? Hasnt Rolston always been wing last few years? Elias is usually LW,C and Parise C? This is interesting...

[chgorman]

Lol awesome....hehe oh well. I can always make some moves. Maybe you can give me some advice on my next two picks...So far i have gotten Turco and Rolston. I now have the 29th and 32nd overall picks coming up. I need to decide what to do. Here are some of the available talents left.

Joe Sakic Jason ArnottChris Kunitz Milan Lucic Ryan MaloneDustin PennerJordan Staal Brandon DubinskyMichael NylanderAndy McDonaldJeff Halpern Chris Neil Drew StaffordFabian BrunnstromPatrick EavesMike Comrie Martin Erat Mikko KoivuEric PerrinTuomo RuutuAndrew CoglianoKeith TkachukAntoine VermetteDavid VbornyTravis ZajacPhil Kessel Patrick O'Sullivan Blake Wheeler Michael Ryder Miro Satan RJ Umberger Andrew Brunnette Daniel Carcillo Sergei SamsonovJamie LangenbrunnerNikita Filatov

Erik JohnsonNiklas KronwallKevin BieksaMatt CarleRon HainseyMattias OhlundSergei ZubovJoni PitkanenKimmo TimmonenDuncan KeithKris LetangSheldon SouraySami SaloCristian EhrhoffShane O'BrienPaul RangerBraydon CoburnDrew DoughtyDustin Byfuglien


EDIT: lol sorry about the list...not good...

Well, you'll probably want to go with a RW or two :lol::lol:. Unfotunately, I'm not really sure which of those on the list are RW's. I've highlighted a few names that stick out to me, knowing full well that few of them are def NOT RW's, but if you can pluck a RW or two from the bunch I've highlighted, I think that might be your best bet.

If Satan is a RW and can get his game on track in PIT, I think he'd be a nice option to consider, along with Ryder in a similar situation in BOS. Both will be playing with supreme playmakers, who should help elevate those two's games back to the levels they once were, or better, but I think any of the guys I've highlighted would help you in various ways (although it's probably too early to take a guy like Neil when there's still a lot of solid offensive talent left on the board.

You're pretty strong on D already, so I wouldn't rush to pick a dman unless you've got your heart set on one or two of 'em. I think you could probably wait a couple rounds to pick a D, in order to load up a bit more on offence, and still get a good quality dman a few rds later given the talent you've listed that is still available, however if there's a run on dmen and the pickings start to get thin, then maybe jump into the fray and grab one with one of your next few picks.

I was just thinking. Why would Rolston Center top line? What about Parise or Elias? Hasnt Rolston always been wing last few years? Elias is usually LW,C and Parise C? This is interesting...

I was wondering the same thing, but I've seen/heard from multiple places saying Rolston will center the top line. Not set in stone by any means, he could very well end up on the wing, and probably will at various points in the season, just mentioned it as something for you to consider going into your next few picks. Rolston has been mostly wing the past few yrs, but as far as I know, he is a natural C.

In regards to Elias, he's a natural LW and it sounds like that's where he'd prefer to play if given the option. Not sure about Parise. Some things I've seen have him listed as a C, some as a LW, so tough to say. NJ has so many players that play multiple positions, I'm finding it really tough to predict who will play where, so it's a bit of a crapshoot, and these reports saying Rolston will play C are just confusing me more instead of helping.

Maybe any NJ fans out there who may be a little closer to the situation could chip in with their thoughts, as I'm just going by what I've read on rotoworld, on here, and on a few depth charts I've seen, which are rarely - if ever - 100% accurate.

[Kaboominator]

Thank you very much for your insight. I agree with everything you've said and will follow accordingly...Satan is def a wild card, will have to look at him...

[chgorman]

Thank you very much for your insight. I agree with everything you've said and will follow accordingly...Satan is def a wild card, will have to look at him...

No problem, glad I can help (although not sure that I'm being much help :lol:).

Good luck, let me know who you end up going with regardless.

[moans]

if you need a RW and would like to take a gamble I would definitely take Kessel. If he can play like he did after being benched in the playoffs, (the last 2 games of the series) he will be a sniper. The guy has some serious skill and if he can put it all together I am fully expecting a huge year. In the next couple of picks I would take a look at the following players in no particular order:

Erik Johnson, Scott Niedermeyer, Zherdev, O SUlly, Erat, Carcillo ( I can see him scoring 25+ with over 200 pims), Malone,

Samsonov could be a nice pick later on.

If your still lookin RW I would say its between Zherdev and Kessel ( I'm pretty sure he's RW I could be wrong though)

[Kaboominator]

I took Arnott and Osgood with my next two picks...had..there were no golaies left and if i have to i can move osgood for a good return. Arnott just sitting htere was killing me so i had to snag him. For the D-men that are left i think i can get some good young guys that have offensive upside..

[snoopzen]

Be careful not to go too old (i.e. Arnott & Ozzie), especially in the inaugural draft of a keeper league.

Since you've grabbed Ozzie you'd probably need to think about locking up the rest of Detroit's starts. Which means that you'd probably want to snap up Conklin at some point, and keep an eye on Howard if either Ozzie or Conklin falter. Yes, that would give you 4 goalies, but a Detroit tandem also has a lot more trading power than Ozzie alone.

You seem to be really strong at C and at LW (your LWs are particularly ridiculous) so I'd continue to think about shoring up your RW... Alfredsson won't be around forever, and you may want to move him before he starts to decline.

I'd also give some serious thought to grabbing another younger player like O'Sullivan, Letang, Kessel... guys that you'd perceive to be impact players down the line. It's a balancing act, but you get to keep so many guys (11 skaters + 1 goalie) that you can afford to take on a couple of projects.

VERY nice looking team, though!

[Kaboominator]

Yea, your right. I know im looking old with my drafted players but that is where the balancing act comes into play. I def. have plans for Alfy and Replacement for Sundin. I never thought about the Detroit Duo....hmmm Those young guys are def on my radar. I guess i shouldnt push it too much farther...