Toronto Raptors Thread

[secol]

surprising w over the magic.....and i'll admit it. james johnson looked solid

[b_illin]

Did anyone see the flagrant foul by James Johnson on Joey Graham? Nobody on the Raps besides maybe Evans would do that...we need that!

[dw13]

Did anyone see the flagrant foul by James Johnson on Joey Graham? Nobody on the Raps besides maybe Evans would do that...we need that!

Maybe if you were a playoff team facing another playoff team. But at this time of the year, it's worthless. Cool, you're a tough guy JJ.

[phaneuf6]

I don't like watching the NBA, but man what I've seen of the Raptors lately, what a fucking embarrassment. That's a professional sports team? Yikes.

[b_illin]

Maybe if you were a playoff team facing another playoff team. But at this time of the year, it's worthless. Cool, you're a tough guy JJ.

He actually is a tough guy...he used to be an MMA fighter.

[dw13]

He actually is a tough guy...he used to be an MMA fighter.

I said, cool you're a tough guy. Not because I don't think he's tough, because toughness at this time of the year for one of the worst teams in the league makes no difference.

[b_illin]

I said, cool you're a tough guy. Not because I don't think he's tough, because toughness at this time of the year for one of the worst teams in the league makes no difference.

Fair enough, but these guys have been SO soft for SO long that I'll take it. (nightmares of Kobe gliding through the paint like Moses just parted the Red Sea as he dropped 81 on us a few yrs back...I was so mad when nobody would hard foul him!)

[b_illin]

Ouch :(

[secol]

shit's rigged.....i hope we can land walker since minnesota and cleveland (with #4) won't be taking another PG. one of the quickest players in the draft and you see how valuable quickness is (JJ Barea)

[b_illin]

I don't know about Walker - is he a PG or SG? (we already have DeRozan at the 2)

I like Alecs Burks myself, although he may very well be a SG as well.

[dw13]

Kemba is a point guard.

Brandon Knight > Kemba Walker

Book it.

[moans]

Kemba is a point guard.

Brandon Knight > Kemba Walker

Book it.

I think the Cavs take Williams at #1 and Knight at #4. If Knight's available he's certainly a better pick than Walker but he most likely will be gone. I can't stand the politics behind the NBA/ the officiating, for that reason the NCAA is a far superior product.

[dw13]

I think the Cavs take Williams at #1 and Knight at #4. If Knight's available he's certainly a better pick than Walker but he most likely will be gone. I can't stand the politics behind the NBA/ the officiating, for that reason the NCAA is a far superior product.

The Cavs would have to have a trade set up for JJ Hickson, no? I don't see Williams playing the 3 full time in the NBA.

I think Irving is a lock there.

[secol]

williams calls himself a 3......also compared himself to lebron so dunno if cavs taking him will be a good idea.......

[dw13]

williams calls himself a 3......also compared himself to lebron so dunno if cavs taking him will be a good idea.......

I think he could be a 3, but would play alot of 4. I think Irving should be no doubtingly be the #1 pick. They have JJ Hickson!

[moans]

I think he could be a 3, but would play alot of 4. I think Irving should be no doubtingly be the #1 pick. They have JJ Hickson!

I haven't been able to watch what the analysts are saying sincne I'm in Europe right now but I'd try to trade up from the 5th spot to select Knight. although, I'm not 100% sure we could make a deal that makes sense. All of this will be for not as they won't be playing next year.

[dw13]

I haven't been able to watch what the analysts are saying sincne I'm in Europe right now but I'd try to trade up from the 5th spot to select Knight. although, I'm not 100% sure we could make a deal that makes sense. All of this will be for not as they won't be playing next year.

I think Knight is gettable at 5.

[secol]

i don't see anybody but maybe minnesota trading down since they don't really need a SF/PF and if irving does fall to them they already have rubio and a few other vets

[dw13]

Secol, it's not worth predicting what David Kahn and the T-Wolves will do.

I actually met the guy last summer at the NBA Summer League career conference... the guy is a riot.

[secol]

According to Jonathan Givony of Draft Express, the Cavaliers reportedly offered the fourth overall pick in exchange for small forward Rudy Gay.
lol i want what they're smoking

[dw13]

:lol::lol:

Yeah, I heard the Grizzlies just laughed.

[b_illin]

The Cavs would have to have a trade set up for JJ Hickson, no? I don't see Williams playing the 3 full time in the NBA.

I think Irving is a lock there.

What's with the name change???

[b_illin]

http://thestar.blogs.com/raptors/2011/05/mails-in-have-yourselves-a-good-time.html#more


Q: Hi Doug. Great column. My daily read in fact. Quick and simple question. Was the pick in the Miami Sign-and-Trade for CB a 2011 or 2012? (wasn't it the Raptors pick in the first place?) Or did we trade that pick along the way to somewhere else?



Many thanks


Barry B, Kingston
A: It was for this year, it was Toronto’s pick in the first place, they got it back and then dealt it to Chicago for James Johnson.
And seeing how it would have been the 28th pick in the draft and carried with it three years of salary obligation, getting Johnson for it was an excellent move.

[dw13]

Welp, that's it Bill, you've convinced me :lol:

[b_illin]

Everyone jumped all over me when I wrote that months ago...and it doesn't mean I'm right, but I will admit it is nice to see my prediction (so far) prove right.

[dw13]

I'm still not sure how it's been proven right but yeah! (It's such a minor move, this debate doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things :P)

[secol]

honestly there are some really intriguing players projected to go late first round/early second round....just saying.....

[dw13]

honestly there are some really intriguing players projected to go late first round/early second round....just saying.....

In draftexpress' mock, between Pick 20 and all the way through the second round there are easily 15 players I'd take in a heartbeat over the bum JJ.

[b_illin]

^ but would you want them that much more to pay them for the extra 2 years? Like you said, it'll be a while before we know, but my original point way back when the trade happened was it gives BC more flexibility...and it does. This is a weak draft and that is a late pick that we gave up. Not the bad gamble it was made out to be. (and I think JJ could be a great SF off the bench going forward...he did a lot of things that nobody else on the team would do)

[dw13]

To pay a #20 pick? Serious? It's change, and your team isn't that talented in the first place. I'd much rather roster Marshon Brooks for 3 seasons and see if he's a diamond in the rough then have JJ's bum ass around for any amount of time.

[secol]

yeah carrying a few extra years is no problem with lower picks since it'll only be around 1-2 million per year

[secol]

rubio signs in minnesota, and it really sounds like minnosta is willing to almost give flynn away. from what i see flynn is similar to kemba walker? might be able to do something like calderon + 5th + TPE for flynn + 2nd + salary dump or something along those lines (webster's name comes to mind because of his contract and his three point shooting)

[dw13]

They wouldn't want Calderon, doesn't fit what Kahn is attempting to do there. He built his team completely around having Rubio come to Sota, and he's here now. He wants athletic wing players who can get up and down the court with Rubio. He's got a bunch of them now.

I'm sure Flynn is going to go cheap but not sure Calderon is a player they'd be licking their chops over. Bayless might be who they could take, IMO.

[b_illin]

While I am not going to comment on that fictitious trade, there are A LOT of reasons why MIN would be interested in Calderon.

1. Calderon can be a mentor to Rubio, a fellow Spaniard who has said on record how much he admires Jose.
2. If Rubio is not ready to start right off the bat, Jose can start til he's ready
3. Jose has shown that he is a team player and will accept his role, whether it be starter or backup off the bench
4. Calderon isn't too expensive for what he brings and he isn't going to throw a bitch-fit if he gets dealt to MIN (something 98% of the other players in the league wouldn't do)

I'm not saying that they are drooling over Jose by any means, but to say that Jose is not a player that they'd be interested is a poorly thought out comment.

[dw13]

No, it's not a poorly thought out comment. They have Ridnour to be the starter/backup for Rubio, whatever they decide to do. Ridnour just a vet just like Calderon, who cares about Nationality, that's not going to mean a lick to Rubio. Ridnour's on the books til 13/14.

Why would they want Calderon to be their 3rd PG for what? 10M a year for the next 2-3 years?

They'll look to get another athletic big or wing man probably, depending what they do in the draft. Like I said, Kahn is focused on surrounding Rubio with athletic players who can run the court with him.

I don't see Calderon as an option unless Toronto wants to take Ridnour in the deal, which then obviously it makes sense.

[b_illin]

No, it's not a poorly thought out comment. They have Ridnour to be the starter/backup for Rubio, whatever they decide to do. Ridnour just a vet just like Calderon, who cares about Nationality, that's not going to mean a lick to Rubio. Ridnour's on the books til 13/14.

Why would they want Calderon to be their 3rd PG for what? 10M a year for the next 2-3 years?

They'll look to get another athletic big or wing man probably, depending what they do in the draft. Like I said, Kahn is focused on surrounding Rubio with athletic players who can run the court with him.

I don't see Calderon as an option unless Toronto wants to take Ridnour in the deal, which then obviously it makes sense.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:, seriously? You don't think having the guy the kid has looked up to for years (and who is also an NBA vet and a good guy) on the team would matter to a 20 year kid who has never lived in North America? Really??

I don't think Ridnour would prevent Kahn from being interested in Jose...he can be dealt. I think Jose would be an excellent fit in MIN with Rubio. Whether the teams ever talk, who knows, but how you don't see the fit amazes me.

[secol]

b_ brought up most of the reasons why i thought calderon would fit well.....another is that rubio has really struggled and from what they've said it sounds like they are going to (and will need to) bring rubio along slowly. i know they still have ridnour but you can't deny as a mentor to rubio there's anybody who is a better fit in the NBA than calderon. his age works perfectly as well because they can run calderon as a starter if rubio looks dismal and throttle him back as rubio gets comfortable.

[dw13]

He's a professional athlete, his whole family will be here for him and for his club team over the past few years he's dealt with guys that ranged from the USA to Senegal. He doesn't need another Spanish speaking teammate to settle in.

People have said he plays like Calderon but I've never seen him say that's who he's looked up to?

Either way, the fact is, unless another team takes Ridnour+Flynn, or they go in separate deals, that's the only way I see the Wolves doing the deal. Then again, it's David Kahn we're talking about, maybe he won't move any of them and roster 4 PG's. You never know what he's going to do.

I understand what you're trying to get Bill but I think you're really overplaying the fact that Rubio needs a Spanish speaking teammate. He doesn't. He speaks English and understands English just fine.

As for Rubio's struggles, not sure if you guys watch International basketball but Barca plays a slow style on offense and that really doesn't fit Rubio at all, which is why Kahn has built the Wolves the way he has.

Edit: I agree Calderon would be the ideal person to bring Rubio into the league with but the Wolves won't go out of their way to get the guy, that's the part that makes no sense to me.

[b_illin]

It's about so much more than the language though man. It's about fitting in in the NA game and making the adjustments necessary to thrive. It's about having someone he's looked up to for years as his teammate and mentor. It's about learning from a class-act and forming a partnership instead of having some other PG who wants to steal his playing time.

Perhaps I am over-emphasizing things as well, but at worst, Jose would be a decent fit with Rubio.

[dw13]

It's about so much more than the language though man. It's about fitting in in the NA game and making the adjustments necessary to thrive. It's about having someone he's looked up to for years as his teammate and mentor. It's about learning from a class-act and forming a partnership instead of having some other PG who wants to steal his playing time.

Perhaps I am over-emphasizing things as well, but at worst, Jose would be a decent fit with Rubio.

Ridnour would certainly help Rubio into the league, without question. If it's more than just the language, then why can't Ridnour handle it? A real good pro and person.

I'm probably under-emphasizing, so we've atleast met in the middle. I agree Jose would be the ideal mentor for Rubio but I don't see the Wolves (currently) in a position to do it.

[b_illin]

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=20047

No thanks.

[dw13]

Would be such a perfect move for the Wolves. Kahn and his athletic wing players for Rubio continues.

Much like you though Bill, I'd decline although it's not a bad trade.

[secol]

shot down by BC already.....i see it as a pretty bad trade

derozen > williams or kanter
flynn = kemba-ish

[secol]

if crittenton looks good i kind of want the raps to take a look at signing him....still a young PG with good size and playmaking

[secol]

casey in....but he doesn't have the personnel :(

[b_illin]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Aqwy8otOKF46HJY_yEvR13u8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_tony_parker_spurs_nba_draft_062111

NEW YORK – The San Antonio Spurs (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sas/) are engaged in discussions about trading point guard Tony Parker (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3527/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3527/news) to secure a high pick in Thursday’s draft, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The Spurs have talked to teams in the lottery, including the Toronto Raptors (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/tor/) and Sacramento Kings (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/sac/), who hold the fifth and seventh picks, respectively. The Kings are determined to get a frontline point guard, and have also talked with the Denver Nuggets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/den/) about Raymond Felton (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3931/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3931/news).
It’s unclear who the Spurs would prefer to take if they acquired a high lottery pick.
If the Spurs were to trade Parker, George Hill (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4488/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4488/news) could become their starting point guard. League sources said Hill also has drawn trade interest from teams willing to give the Spurs a pick near the back end of the lottery.
Parker didn’t play well early in the Spurs’ first-round loss to the eighth-seeded Memphis Grizzlies (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/mem/) in May then later told French reporters he thought the franchise’s days of contending for a title had all but ended.

[secol]

saw that.....i hope we don't deal for parker. if they dangle hill though......

[dw13]

Would be taking Brandon Knight with a huge smile on my face if he's there.

Great kid, great player, awesome upside.

[b_illin]

I think it's Knight if he's there, maybe Leonard otherwise. My hope is that they take J-Val as I think he's has one of the higher ceilings of anyone in the draft, but it looks like he's on Europe for another year. I would be more than happy to wait that year...especially seeing as next years draft should have lots of awesome SF's, not to mention that there may not be a next year! (not sure BC has the balls to make that pick though with his leash so short)

[two24four]

I did not watch many Raps games this past season, but I hope they pick Knight.

[secol]

my issue with knight is that he doesn't play enough like a PG.....however it's sounding more and more that j val will be taken by cavs at #4 which would leave us with kanter.

[dw13]

my issue with knight is that he doesn't play enough like a PG.....however it's sounding more and more that j val will be taken by cavs at #4 which would leave us with kanter.

Knight is a PG though. I hate the ESPN guys who continually say he's a combo guard, not a PG. I've watched him since he was in the 9th grade, he's wanted to be a PG his whole life. He's a great passer of the ball, great handles, speed but he can SHOOT the ball so people call him a combo guard. His shot will make him deadly in the NBA.

He'll play the point.

I think Kanter is headed to Utah.

[moans]

There isn't going to be a season next year so it won't matter if J val stays in Europe. I'd love for the Raps to get Kanter but like dw said, he's probably going to Utah at #3.

[b_illin]

Well, if J-Val goes top 4, then Knight or Kanter will be there at 5.

[dw13]

Chad Ford says he's starting to hear Biyombo's name with the Raptors. Could be smoke screens obviously!

[dw13]

There ya go Bill!

[b_illin]

Fuck yeah! (I'm a half hour behind so just saw our pick)

Props to BC for making a ballsy pick...especially with knight and walker available. Love the pick though...i think in a couple of years we'll love this pick. (i like it now, but knight was tempting)

Bargs better step his game up now! (j-val + ed davis in 2-3 years with DD had me drooling!)

Thompson going 4th came out of nowhere!

If Leonard is still around by pick 14, BC should try to trade for that pick

[dw13]

If Leonard is still around by pick 14, BC should try to trade for that pick

You can't have him and DeRozen on the court together. Neither guy can shoot a 3. They need a swing man with range, IMO.

[b_illin]

Defensively though we could use him. (and that would make JJ redundant which you & soty would love! :lol:)

[secol]

honestly from what i've seen and read on val he sounds like shit......an andris biedrins at best. not an explosive athlete, no offensive game other than pick and roll, rebounds good, mediocre shot blocking and help D

[b_illin]

Wow, SA traded Hill for Leonard....tells me Kawhi's going to be good!

[dw13]

Wow, SA traded Hill for Leonard....tells me Kawhi's going to be good!

Love him. He's tough, he'll rebound, he'll defend and he knows his role. Won't be crazy good but will be a stud for awhile.

[b_illin]

Love him. He's tough, he'll rebound, he'll defend and he knows his role. Won't be crazy good but will be a stud for awhile.

He'll be that glue guy that does everything and keeps everyone's motors running. Championship team type player. (but I'm talking out of my ass to a degree...was just really impressed with him on and off the court)

[secol]

alot of scouting reports say that val is athletic, but every highlight i've seen he doesn't get above the rim much (maybe i'm watching too many biyombo highlights)

[b_illin]

Wow, BC didn't take long to get that done! Nice job dude!

[dw13]

Your new boy raped the horrible USA U19's

[b_illin]

All I could find was a blog that says the US got thumped. How'd he look? What was his stat line?

[two24four]

I did not see anything, but Tim Micallef tweeted early today that he had 23 Pts and 11 Reb's.

[dw13]

YouTube - ‪FIBAU19 - Lithuania v USA game highlights‬‏

Skip to 1:50. Your boy J-Val getting abused by the Gator himself, Patric Young.

Even though J-Val went for 30 and 15 ;)

[secol]

YouTube - ‪FIBAU19 - Lithuania v USA game highlights‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AynrlVhIrqE)

Skip to 1:50. Your boy J-Val getting abused by the Gator himself, Patric Young.

Even though J-Val went for 30 and 15 ;)
eh j val abused him too just the play before.......young needs to stop running his mouth on twitter and take his spanking (by j val) and learn from it instead of whining

[dw13]

Haha, didn't even see him mouthing off. PY is a stud though. I was joking coming in here and saying that. J-Val doing that against a future lottery pick (PY) is impressive.

[b_illin]

eh j val abused him too just the play before.......young needs to stop running his mouth on twitter and take his spanking (by j val) and learn from it instead of whining


http://raptorsrepublic.com/forums/showthread.php?6527-Patric-Young-on-Jonas-Valanciunas-quot-I-know-for-a-fact-he-is-not-a-lottery-pick-quot

[dw13]

Weird, I only saw PY say good things.

[b_illin]

Patric4Young to RaptorsRhetoric: "Your entitled to your opinion your not an nba scout or a gm or a coach."

Hendrix_Grizz to Patric4Young: "You're entitled to your opnnion too but next time youy state a "fact" remember that you're not a GM, scout or coach either. & u're a great player. Keep in mind that u just said you seen him play once. Scouts & GM's have been scouting the kid for yrs."

Patric4Young to Hendrix_Grizz: "Yea but I am a TOP NBA prospect glory to God"

[dw13]

Dumbass. Would of never of posted the video if I knew he mouthed off.

[b_illin]

I thought you loved your Gator?? :lol:

[dw13]

You're so lame :lol:

[b_illin]

http://thestar.blogs.com/raptors/


So the world juniors come to an end, Lithuania wins the gold and Your Boy Jonas averages 23 points, 13.9 rebounds, about 3 blocks per game, shoots 81 per cent from the free throw line and 59.5 per cent from field and is the most valuable player of the tournament.
And some of you, judging by the e-mails I get and little tweet things I read, are all agog over him.
And why not?
The kid does seem to have something that makes people sit up and take notice although I couldn’t get anything official from any NBA guy who took in the end of the tournament because they’re not ready to eat the $1 million fine for talking about players during the lockout.
Suffice it say they were impressed by him, so much so that Toronto’s selection of him with the No. 5 pick in the draft is now thought in some circles as the biggest steal of the night.
Now, the world juniors isn’t the highest calibre basketball ever played by it is good, it is very emotional and intense and for Valanciunas to elevate his game on that stage speaks as much to his personality as his talents.
Good players who have a chance to be great always tend to dominate when they should and that’s precisely what he did. He didn’t play down to any level of his competition, by all accounts he never loafed when he was playing weak opposition and that’s as impressive to me as anything he did statistically.
And his summer is going to keep getting busier with greater challenges ahead.
He’s likely to be named to Lithuania’s senior team – the one that will try to qualify for the 2012 Olympics when it hosts Eurobasket 2011 later this summer and I think that’ll give us another, truer, indication of what seem to be prodigious talents.


:D

http://www.fibatv.com/page/Video/0,,12805~1786909,00.html?tabb=highlightspnumber=1

[smitty42]

Lets get some Raptor discussion back on.


What do you think Raptors should look for in free agency?

Would you be happy to see them completely tank this shortened season in anticipation of a very loaded draft next year?

[two24four]

Lets get some Raptor discussion back on.


What do you think Raptors should look for in free agency?

Would you be happy to see them completely tank this shortened season in anticipation of a very loaded draft next year?

Buddie and I where just talking about this the other day, we think they should just play the season as is, go for a high pick in a big upcoming draft.

Valanciunas won't be over this season anyways, can break him in as well as another big time player from the next draft next season.

[b_illin]

Buddie and I where just talking about this the other day, we think they should just play the season as is, go for a high pick in a big upcoming draft.

Valanciunas won't be over this season anyways, can break him in as well as another big time player from the next draft next season.

My thoughts as well....hopefully that leads to some development/maturing of our current kids + a high pick in the draft. Fingers crossed.

[secol]

murmurs that it might be possible jval can come this year

[two24four]

17 of the Raps frist 26 games are on the road.

[b_illin]

Wow, with their schedule and the scrubs they'll likely sign to play out the year, they are going to be pretty bad this year...which is sweet as I'd like another high pick, then they can start thinking of getting better!

[two24four]

Sounds like the Raps have signed hometown boy Jamaal Magloire.

[two24four]

Doug Smith says the Raps are on the verge of getting Mickael Pietrus from the Suns.

[b_illin]

We got him - a conditional second round pick goes out to Phoenix, if Pietrus passes a physical and the fact he's got one year and $5.3 million left on his deal makes it a perfect fit for what Bryan wants to do

[b_illin]

Don;t know what happened (failed physical?), but the Pietrus deal is now off.

We signed an offer sheet to Garry Forbes and signed Anthony Carter and two other dudes who will be riding the pine

[secol]

rasual butler and aaron gray? i'd put gray ahead of magloire on the depth chart and butler almost on par with JJ in terms of playing time

[b_illin]

rasual butler and aaron gray? i'd put gray ahead of magloire on the depth chart and butler almost on par with JJ in terms of playing time

of course you would - you don't like JJ.

Gary Forbes will be the one battling JJ for minutes if DEN doesn't match our offer...Butler is end of the bench material. (also, Magloire/Gray won't play much anyway...and I see Magloire getting more minutes as his role is to be the banger)

[two24four]

Magloire is kind of going to be like Oakley was back in the day.

[secol]

there's a reason for that....guy is toolsy but other than the rare flashes of brilliance he is very mediocre. that said i'd still like to see him get a large chunk of minutes to evaluate him.....at this point rasual > JJ i think

[b_illin]

there's a reason for that....guy is toolsy but other than the rare flashes of brilliance he is very mediocre. that said i'd still like to see him get a large chunk of minutes to evaluate him.....at this point rasual > JJ i think

Be honest - did you even know who Rasual Butler was until the Raps signed him?

[secol]

yes i knew him from his bulls and hornets and clippers days.....streaky scorer, 3 point and athletic player

[b_illin]

Man's bet on which of them gets more minutes this season? My money is on JJ.

[secol]

i hope it'll be JJ so we can evaluate what he can bring and whether or not he'll fit into long term plans.....if forbes signs i'd like him to split with JJ unless they trade barbosa and give forbes/JJ/butler some backup SG time

[secol]

also i wonder if the lakers want a PF of ours, they traded odom and character got hurt. they're left with gasol, bynum, mcroberts and artest/world peace

[b_illin]

I like BC's moves. Some solid old vets to teach toughness and mentor the kids. Some upside guys like Forbes and maybe Gray. Hopefully we can possibly deal Barbosa and some others (Bargnani??) towards the trade deadline...this draft is supposed to be super deep and super stacked, so I'm all for acquiring picks with players that don't fit into the long-term future. Add a pick or two to out likely top-5 (or better) pick + J-Val coming next year to go along with a developing core of DeRozan, Davis, etc. and I'm excited!

[two24four]

So it sounds like the Mavs are going to waive Andy Rautins, anyone think the Raptors might sign him?

[secol]

maybe if we didn't have carter or we move calderon?

[b_illin]

No room for him...we're already at 15 players.

----------------------------

With Magloire, Carter & JJ, I am looking forward to bullying/roughing up some other teams this season...we've been pushed around for years. Goon squad!

[secol]

celts can really use a big as well.....jeff green done for the year

[secol]

griz darrell arthur down as well, another possible fit?

[nineoneone]

:wtf: Raptors new 3rd Jersey's

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/cc/cc0821aee73b35c20c6f35bd3c11d597/the_raptors_unveil_alternate_camouflage_jerseys.jp g

[b_illin]

O'Grime - Valanciunas (BIG V LITHUANIAN HERO) - YouTube

hahaha!

(although not too sure that dude is black enough to be tossing around the N word)

[smitty42]

1.5% of the season done and Raptors are undefeated. Playoffs?

I think we are all wishing for them to tank this year.

[dw13]

Raptor fans must be baffled watching Hedo right now, playing so well :lol:

[b_illin]

Butler got a lot of minutes today...mmmmmmm foot :D

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DeRozan's gotten A LOT better with his outside shooting...if he can keep it up, that will open up his game big time.

Bargs is looking really confident...he's playing really well.

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Casey has this team playing some great basketball early on. I had them only winning 10-12 games this season, they already have 3.

Bargs and DeRozan look like they both love Casey as coach. DeRozan had only made 5 three pointers all last season, he had 5 tonight.