Lions fans

[Doctego]

Nobody posted it so I will. Yet another reason why it's hard to root for this team and this player:

Ndamukong Suh Stomp, Kicked out of Packers vs. Lions Thanksgiving Game - YouTube


"I want to apologize to my teammates, my coaches and my true fans for allowing the refs to have an opportunity to take me out of this game, " Suh said. "What I did was remove myself from the situation the best way I felt, with me being held down."
Suh apologized, but the powerful defensive tackle was quick to defend himself, saying he was trying to keep his balance while freeing himself from the brief scuffle.
"My intention was not to kick anybody, as I did not, removing myself, " he said. "I was on top of a guy, being pulled down, and trying to get up off the ground -- and why you see me pushing his helmet down, because I'm trying to remove myself from the situation, and as I'm getting up, I'm getting pushed, so I'm getting myself on balance."What a crock of shit.:lol:

[Spartan]

No doubt Doc, bullshit. And its not flying with the fans in Detroit either. There is a lot of flack from the fans, myself included coming on to the team and Suh.

First off this team is pack of sore losers. After the Atlanta loss there was the accusation that Suh was talking smack about Matt Ryan when he was injured. San Francisco had the handshake debacle. Chicago featured a few fights including Stafford. Now this crap with the Packers. Detroit has always appreciated the blue collar mentality with its teams to suck it up and get it done. This is why heros here are guys like Yzerman, Sanders and Joe Dumars and players like Federov, Roy Williams and Dennis Rodman were never well liked here despite their talent. The Lions need to shut up and go back to work.

TJ Lang from the Packers said after the game what everyone here knows. He said that they expected the Lions to do something stupid because they have done it in every game so far. And they delivered. What makes you pull your hair out as a fan is that its team leaders like Vandenbosh and Suh doing the stupid shit. Then their coaches refuse to reign it in and therefore defacto endorsing it so it happens next game.

Suh is getting a ton of criticism from Detroit fans and writers this morning. Some have suggested and I agree that the team should shut him down for the balance of the season. Reporters did a little digging and have found that this behavior has followed Suh since high school where he was ejected and suspended for punching a player. He also fought with a teacher. So it looks like he just doesn't get it; especially when you look at his reasoning. It reminds me of when my kids try to bullshit me when I catch them doing something wrong. Funny how these drafts work out when there was the question of who was better, Suh or Gerald McCoy? A few years from now the answer looks to be neither one.

[Dubz]

Hes gonna get suspended for that for sure. I cant believe he used "the man upstairs" reference. Really? God knew you wanted to stomp the guy BUT never intended harm right?

I heard someone else was ejected for throwing punches in the NFL yesterday. Gonna be a busy week for the commish lol.

[FlyGuy78]

Best done for the season, put on IR.

[Kyle]

Oh look, another week, another series of incidents pointing to the Lions being classless dirty babies. Schwartz has lost any sort of grip on the team's behavior, appropriate seeing as how his behavior through the season has probably been the most shameful, moreso because of his sheer lack of discipline than anything else. For this to not just be going on, but getting progressively worse over TEN FUCKING WEEKS of repeated dirty incidents, is nothing but a flat-out reflection of the way this team is run and the type of morals that are encouraged (Or in this case not encouraged).

This is a disaster, the Lions are nowhere near good enough to make a splash in the playoffs and the story of the season is now that the Lions have established themselves as the dirtiest, most classless, childish players (By comparison the Raiders seem like premier boy scouts) in the league. And it should've been about a garbage organization dragging itself out of the mud and establishing themselves as a genuinely legit football club.

Some fucking dumbass in that locker room needs to drop some balls and quit encouraging this shit. Tell 30 assholes and that child in charge of all of them to grow up and appreciate that they get to play a fucking schoolyard game for millions of dollars every week.

[Hamsterkill]

Man, Raiola looked pissed last night at all the kids doing dumb shit.

[b_illin]

Man, Raiola looked pissed last night at all the kids doing dumb shit.

He did...and he also laid down a sick block.

(while they are clearly a poorly disciplined team, the ref's were REALLY nit picking with them last night it seemed)

[chgorman]

He did...and he also laid down a sick block.

(while they are clearly a poorly disciplined team, the ref's were REALLY nit picking with them last night it seemed)

Yeah, two of Burly's offensive PI calls were questionable at best. The one was obvious, and he admitted as much, but the other two were BS IMO.

Still, embarrassing, undisciplined play from a number of players last night. If I was a guy like Raiola, Backus, Hanson, etc, all guys who suffered through all the terrible years in the past 10 or so, I'd be ripping a pretty sizeable strip off of guys like Titus Young, Logan, and Pettigrew in the dressing room after the game. The sky is the limit for this team skill-wise, but not if they can't get their act together and start playing with more discipline.

Really too bad that they were so undisciplined and Plaxico'ed themselves so many times last night, 'cuz they were moving the ball well all game, the D had the NO offence on lockdown in the 2nd half and Stafford was playing great all game. Hurt to lose Fairley too, after the monster first half he had.

[Spartan]

I'm tired of the excuses. How much would you bet Parcells or Bellichick would give Burleson his release this morning? If nothing at all, Logan has been around long enough to know better. Somebody should be cut to send a message. I doubt they do it though, losing faith in this coaching staff and its time for Mayhew to set the tone.

[b_illin]

They were getting pretty nitpicky with Burleson with those 3 PI flags over the course of 5 mins. I realize he fully extended, but so does everyone else so it was excessive I thought. I also thought the dude was WAY offside on that blocked FG.

End of the day though, that doesn't excuse all the other legit flags so as Spartan says, enough with the excuses. I wonder if Schwartz can actually fix this...I don't think he can as he is just as immature it seems as his players.

[Kyle]

None of the offensive PI calls were even somewhat questionable. Full arm extension on each one. Do players get away with it sometimes? Of course, a lot of the time even. But they get called just as often, and to get called once and do it twice more in the same game? Inexcusable. Thats just poor understanding of the rules.

Embarrassing game...it just gets worse and worse...We genuinely should've won this game something like 38-31, we were getting the better of the play in this offensive shootout especially in the second half, and just did every possible thing imaginable to shoot themselves in the foot. This is the dirtiest, most undisciplined team in the league by far.

Schwartz is a fucking dumbshit. He needs to change everything about the way he approaches his players. Hes getting walked on. He walks up to everybody after every bonehead penalty and asks them "what happened" like hes more interested in the drama than disciplining his players. He takes their side of the story like its even SOMEWHAT worth listening to in the heat of the moment and just justifies the players irrational emotions instead of saying "Get your fucking mind on football and go cool down." I swear he gave a reassuring pat in the helmet to everybody who committed a bonehead penalty, stop telling people "Its okay we'll get em next time," get mad, make people feel like shit, truly establish a negative vibe towards anybody committing penalties because OBVIOUSLY losing the game is not enough to impact this shit. Start disciplining these Goddamn fools and it starts right on the field seconds after the flag.

[Spartan]

None of the offensive PI calls were even somewhat questionable. Full arm extension on each one. Do players get away with it sometimes? Of course, a lot of the time even. But they get called just as often, and to get called once and do it twice more in the same game? Inexcusable. Thats just poor understanding of the rules.

Embarrassing game...it just gets worse and worseExactly. There was a former official that I saw retweeted last night. He said the plays were called mostly because of the good coverage. The only way the officials let those go is if the coverage is just lost.

[Kyle]

Yup. And as a fan you sit there and think "Oh man, hes taking back big plays with that penalty" but those wouldn't be big plays. The penalty is the reason he was ever open. Stafford probably goes through his next progression if Nate doesn't fully extend his arms and forcefully create separation between himself and a defender in perfect position to cover him. Under those circumstances you'll always see a flag, or should always.

[Dubz]

I agree the calls are bad on the Lions. Iffy at best imo. They have created their own demise im afraid. Sure some are legit but i can see the defences taking that little extra shot when the play is done causeing the retaliation. Sorts reminds me of Hockey before they implemented the diving/unsportsmanlike rules.

Theres alot to learn for this team but they are just so jacked it seems next to impossible to learn in one season. Im not sure the coach is capable of doing it this week or next but im surely willing to give him as much time as we gave the last sorry ass fucker that coached this team into the ground year after year after year. Give some fucking credit where its due. This a good football team and capable of winning on any given sunday!! Theres no way in hell im jumping off this bandwagon.

The funniest thing i read was Kyle saying it should be called every damn time (offensive PI) Then admits its called 50% at most!! Really? Thats a topic that could have its own thread imo

[Kyle]

Because the other 50% of the time its better hidden and better disguised. And WR don't usually commit the exact same penalty twice more in the next 30 minutes after getting flagged. When you're on hot seat, you need to understand you're going to be called for holds and interference penalties that you might be accustomed to getting away with. When you make it easy on a ref by fully extending your arms multiple times when they're clearly watching you? That just makes you a dumbass football player.

Of course defenders are taking that extra shot to instigate the Lions. They will continue doing so all year. Does that mean the Lions are justified in smacking helmets with refs staring right at them? No, a boneheaded play is a boneheaded play. I blame Schwartz when it gets progressively worse for 13 weeks. These things need a week or two and one or two strong messages to effectively destroy. Instead we have a "Player's coach" who refuses to lay down the law with his team and lets them run wild. Someone needs to crack the whip and Schwartz refuses too, and this is turning into a serious blemish on the storybook tale of him rebuilding the Lions and leading them out of the depth of obscurity.

[Spartan]

Again its all on Mayhew. When you have a hands off owner like Ford it can work out really good or really bad. The Millen situation was addressed far too late and you can expect the same thing here if it continues. I don't think firing coaches is the answer either. That has happened way too much here and its not the answer now. Mayhew has passed the test as far as talent evaluation and roster management is concerned. This will be his biggest test so far in reigning in his coach. This all seemed to start after the winning started. Somewhere in there Schwartz' attitude changed to one of entitlement. If you look at game 1 this year, Cherilus got a stupid personal foul and lost his starting spot the following day. Right now it looks as of the same protocol will not be applied here. The score or record should never change the culture of your team.

[Kyle]

Very, very well said Spartan

[Spartan]

Suh interview today is just astounding. I bet he doesn't make it to half time Sunday before picking up another personal foul.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/?podcast_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.podtrac.com%2Fpts%2F redirect.mp3%2Fnyc.podcast.play.it%2Fmedia%2Fd0%2F d0%2Fd0%2FdZ%2FdG%2FdH%2FdQ%2FZGHQ_3.MP3%3Fauthtok %3D5561640909372943382_n63zlcnXhauVzyNEYWAFDSXf3GY&podcast_name=Ndamukong+Suh+joins+Valenti+and+Foste r+12-14-11&podcast_artist=Valenti+and+Foster&station_id=91&tag=&dcid=CBS.DET

[Kyle]

What an asshole

Scratch that - A piece of shit. The questioning was respectable and spot on. Suh could've admitted he was simply wrong and grew up any time. Its just amazing from a PR standpoint that he wouldn't just say that generic "I realize I'm wrong now" BS and get back to playing whatever type of Football he wanted. He just doesn't give a shit lol

[Dubz]

I dont think he believes he was wrong. Its his life and he is allowed to live it the way he wants. I dont think he said anything utterly disrespectful. Obviously he has screws loose lol

[habsfan1]

Lions making the play-offs shows how much I love the NFL, every team has the hope that when they have 1, 2, and even zero wins that maybe in a few years they can turn it around. It's the same way in the NHL. The NBA can't say the same thing. MLB is an absolute joke when it comes to the word hope and a big reason why I don't like watching it. Every team should be on some what equal footing and it should come down to how you manage your teams, which is why he Lions sucked in the Matt Millen era.

[Kyle]

Eh are you sure about that? Its not like the Lions only sucked a few years. It was what, two decades of mediocrity at best, horrid seasons at worst? I can recall a lot of teams who I feel have been bad for a really long time. And a lot of teams I feel have been good for a really long time. I'm not disagreeing that any team can succeed any given Sunday, but its hard to sit there and say proper management and coaching will beat the Packers or Saints or Patriots. Those teams typically need to help you beat them, AKA beat themselves. The NFL is unbalanced in my eyes, who couldn't have predicted the Ravens, Steelers, Packers, Patriots, Saints being exactly where they are right now? Right down to individual player statistics? A balanced league wouldn't have 3 passing offenses that anybody could've predicted going for 4500+ and 40+TDs before the season, and have all 3 be right

Hockey is balanced. Baseball is total dogshit. But I wouldn't say the NFL is easy to compete with the big boys in any number of years. Once a good QB and coach link up in this era of football it seems like everyone else is playing at a major disadvantage. I guess any team can get lucky and strike gold with Stafford but most teams get an Alex Smith type project out of their drafts. Its a tough league to drag yourself out of the gutters.

But, GO LIONS!!! Great win, really just kicked the Chargers ass sideways. Awesome secondary play, which surprised the hell out of me. Just a dominant display on both sides of the ball, a historic win that couldn't have played out any better.

[Dubz]

PLAYOFFS!!!!

and i get to pick out an avatar for flyguy!!!

Merry Christmas

[FlyGuy78]

and i get to pick out an avatar for flyguy!!

Be gentle! :)

[b_illin]

Was awesome seeing the fans yesterday after the win...great atmosphere in the stadium. They're my NFC team to root for in the playoffs...Stafford and Megatron are two of my fav's (and I rode them both hard on a lot of my playoff teams...and boy did they come through!!)

[chgorman]

What an exciting game today! No D from either team, haha. Megatron is such a BEAST!!!

Too bad the refs had to fuck the Lions over so many times. Would much rather play the Giants or the Cowboys next week. Looks like it's gonna be the Saints in NO instead.

[chgorman]

I know it's already been posted in the NFL thread, but...

(from rotoworld)
Lions signed Calvin Johnson to a seven-year, $132 million extension through the 2019 season.

Megatron is on a plane headed to Detroit for the 1:00 p.m. press conference. Johnson's $18.86 million per season and a record-breaking $60 million guaranteed top Larry Fitzgerald's $16 million per and $50 million guaranteed respectively, making him easily the highest-paid player in the NFL, regardless of position. The long-term contract also frees up cap space for the Lions, perhaps enabling a Stephen Tulloch signing. More importantly, Detroit has locked in the game's most dominant skill-position talent. From a fantasy perspective, the deal cements Johnson as the most valuable asset in Dynasty leagues while stabilizing Matthew Stafford as a top-five quarterback.
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So happy to know Megatron is gonna be in a Lions uni for the next 8 yrs! Him and Stafford are going to be tearing shit up together for years, both in real life and on a couple of my keeper league teams, haha! BOO YAH!!

[Doctego]

Stafford better stay healthy or this deal will hurt them financially a lot more than it does right now. I could also go on and on about how this doesn't guarantee anything for 8 years but I'll let you enjoy the day.:p

[chgorman]

Stafford better stay healthy or this deal will hurt them financially a lot more than it does right now. I could also go on and on about how this doesn't guarantee anything for 8 years but I'll let you enjoy the day.:p

Haha, thx. True, I guess there's nothing saying he can't be traded or cut, but unless his skill level falls off a cliff and takes a massive nosedive (extremely unlikely), there's literally no reason whatsoever why the Lions wouldn't keep him around and he wouldn't play out the contract. He's got a great attitude, he's not a diva i.e. I can't see him holding out for another raise or asking for a trade, the rest of the team loves him, he loves Stafford, likes what the Lions are doing with the team and the direction they're currently headed, so unless the team takes an abrupt U turn and returns to the days of 0-16, or he turns into a diva and a lockeroom cancer, I can't see any reason why he would want out or why the team would want to get rid of him.

The optimist in me thinks that Stafford is past his injury issues, while the realist in me still has some lingering concerns, but I honestly don't think Stafford will have too many seasons where he misses more than a few games a yr. He did a ton of work to strengthen his shoulder prior to this past season, learned how to fall on it properly, haha, so barring some freak catastrophic injury, and assuming the Lions can get some help on the o-line in free agency and/or the draft, I don't see Stafford as a huge injury risk going forward. At least no moreso than any other QB in the league - he's not a 'runner' a la Vick or Tebow or VY, so he doesn't expose himself to big hits that way, but he's still mobile enough to avoid the rush fairly well. Obviously anything can happen, but I'm not too worried at this point.

When all is said and done, I could honestly see Stafford-to-Calvin being right up there with Montana/Young-to-Rice, Manning-to-Harrison, Aikman-to-Irvin, Kelly-to-Reed, etc, if not right at the top of that pile.

[Kyle]

I'll just quote myself from the NFL chatter thread:


Johnson is far and beyond the most talented at his position in addition to being the most physically dominant. Could contend for the best WR in NFL History by the time his careers up. I understand how many things need to go right and how likely it is that something will go wrong, but you do what it takes to lock up a talent that rare and unique when hes just entering his prime. I love what the Lions pulled off here, saved themselves 4-6 mill a season the next 2 years to build for this immediate SB run.

Theres more money than stars to throw around this league right now. In a league where teams can expect to sit at a combined 100-200 million (if not even more) beneath the cap limit, you pay these types of contracts to incredibly gifted talents like Calvin Johnson.

[chgorman]

haha, I was just about to go back to that thread and post about how I completely agree with you.

[Dubz]

Kyle nailed that....ANY team would have paid Calvin, Its fortunate that he has chosen to sign with the Lions. (for us fans) Its not like we are the Bears and getting gifted WRs handed to us ffs

[chgorman]

Tulloch re-signed for another 5 yrs. 21 of 22 2011 starters signed for next year, with Eric Wright being the 22nd, and TB threw WAY too much money at him considering how much he got burned last season, so I'm glad Mayhew didn't try to retain him at that price, HUGE overpayment.

So happy at the job that Mayhew is doing, and has been doing for a few yrs now. Could still use some help in the defensive backfield (hopefully addressed in the draft), but for the most part, team looks good right now.

[Spartan]

Having the front 7 rotation back is key, with the exception of Levy there are no weaknesses there. However our safety personnel is wrong for the "wide 9". The Saints game showed this as they would toy with the defense by gashing them on the run then tossing it over the top on the next play. Spievey/Coleman/Harris should not be starting. Harris is a good special teamer, Coleman is used up and I have see enough of Spievey to cut bait. I would give Delmas one more year but Lions fans totally over rate him because of his draft status. He is perpetually injured and misses too many tackles. Mayhew has to really get aggressive in both free agency and the draft to improve our options there.

[Kyle]

Yeah, I really hope the draft addresses our defensive backs. Badly, especially safeties!

[Jake]

Yeah, I really hope the draft addresses our defensive backs. Badly, especially safeties!

That was my largest concern going into last year, but they did better than what I thought they would do. Still a glaring weakness, but they were not exploited as much as I thought they would be. If we had a better secondary and another receiver to take some of the coverage off Megatron we would be set (and of coourse healthy rb's). Nate wasn't terrible, but if I were another team I would not consider him to be a real threat. Young is good, but small.

[chgorman]

I thought I read somewhere that Mayhew is bringing in OJ Atogwe to see if there's any mutual interest. I have to think he'd be an upgrade if they can sign him.

[Dubz]

I thought I read somewhere that Mayhew is bringing in OJ Atogwe to see if there's any mutual interest. I have to think he'd be an upgrade if they can sign him.

If his price tag is suitable that would be my favorite guy on the team. Hes from my area. Dont get my hopes up gorman:lol:

[chgorman]

If his price tag is suitable that would be my favorite guy on the team. Hes from my area. Dont get my hopes up gorman:lol:

From rotoworld:

The Lions' visit with free agent S O.J. Atogwe took place on Wednesday.
Atogwe said afterward he was impressed with the visit, but left without a contract. The Jets have also shown interest in Atogwe, though they're currently tied up in Tim Tebow trade talks. Atogwe is the top safety left on the market. Mar 21 - 5:55 PM
Source: detroitlions.com (http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-insider/article-1/Safety-OJ-Atogwe-a-huge-fan-of-the-Lions/f8d7fb29-2fde-4afd-bbae-fe9218bddd07)
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Looks like he left without a contract, so don't get your hopes up. That said, so did Jacob Lacey, and they ended up signing him a few days later, so it's still a possibility.

[Spartan]

Before you get too excited about Atogwe. He has been released the last two seasons in a row, by bad teams.

[b_illin]

Before you get too excited about Atogwe. He has been released the last two seasons in a row, by bad teams.

That was more due to money though than performance.

[chgorman]

That was more due to money though than performance.

and injuries

[Spartan]

That was more due to money though than performance.Well he signed contracts that were market rate for top safeties but never played like one. If he did perform up to his contract then he would have not been replaced either time. I'm just warning Lion fans that if he is signed, his last good year was 2008. He might be an upgrade but likely not enough to solve our problems.

[Doctego]

Well he signed contracts that were market rate for top safeties but never played like one. If he did perform up to his contract then he would have not been replaced either time. I'm just warning Lion fans that if he is signed, his last good year was 2008. He might be an upgrade but likely not enough to solve our problems.

Agreed plus injuries aren't separate from performance. If you're injured, you can't perform.

[Kyle]

He'd still be a huge upgrade, IMO, but I agree nothing to celebrate


Agreed plus injuries aren't separate from performance. If you're injured, you can't perform.

Agreed but of course you have to take it case by case. Entirely random, freak accidents that you wouldn't expect to re-occur are the types you can ignore from a performance perspective. But the majority of injuries are to important areas that only have so much life in them in the first place and this certainly affects your performance, in addition to obviously giving you a higher chance to out-right miss games.

[Kyle]

http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lions-insider/article-1/Tulloch-glad-to-remain-with-Schwartz-and-the-Lions/d0311852-aef2-4ee6-bc19-cdffc00838ec

Didn't know they had such a history together (Schwartz and Tulloch). The Lions are starting to feel like a really tight-knit club, its a good sign for longterm stability/success. Its been a long time since we haven't needed to slash, burn, and regrow half our roster.

[chgorman]

Loving the Reif pick! Bye bye Backus (maybe not right away, but within a year or so)

[chgorman]

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Can somebody explain the Lions 2nd rd pick to me? Matt Millen styles.

[dw13]

I'll come back here middle of next season.

You'll love him.

[chgorman]

I'll come back here middle of next season.

You'll love him.

You think he'll have played enough by midseason for Lions fans to accurately gauge his worth?

Lions brass are justifying it as a 'best player available' pick. I can't comment on that either way, but they definitely have more pressing needs, especially considering some of the DB's and OL still available when they made their pick

[dw13]

You think he'll have played enough by midseason for Lions fans to accurately gauge his worth?

Lions brass are justifying it as a 'best player available' pick. I can't comment on that either way, but they definitely have more pressing needs, especially considering some of the DB's and OL still available when they made their pick

He'll be catching balls the second he steps onto the field. It's what he does. It's all he's ever done. He's a stud and will make a living catching underneath balls from Stafford.

BPA is the best approach to the draft. Steelers, Ravens and Giants have proven that time after time again.

[chgorman]

He'll be catching balls the second he steps onto the field. It's what he does. It's all he's ever done. He's a stud and will make a living catching underneath balls from Stafford.

BPA is the best approach to the draft. Steelers, Ravens and Giants have proven that time after time again.

Ok, then I guess that begs the question then - was he really the best player available, or did the Lions overvalue him on their board? The reason I ask is I'm seeing nothing but negativity from Lions fans in regards to that pick

[dw13]

Ok, then I guess that begs the question then - was he really the best player available, or did the Lions overvalue him on their board? The reason I ask is I'm seeing nothing but negativity from Lions fans in regards to that pick

Just my 2 cents without knowing all the Lions holes, I do know Broyles is a stud. He'll catch a ton of passes from Stafford.

[chgorman]

Any thoughts on this yr's draft Sparty?

Still not sure I'm sold on the Broyles pick, but if what dw has to say is correct then maybe it'll turn out alright.

[Spartan]

Any thoughts on this yr's draft Sparty?

Still not sure I'm sold on the Broyles pick, but if what dw has to say is correct then maybe it'll turn out alright.Been on vacation. Liked the draft a whole lot actually. The defensive players did not come to us in round 1 so Reiff was a great pick. Some were whining about Decastro but Reiff was the right pick. He can play anywhere but center with the ceiling of a left tackle. Decastro plays guard and thats it. My guess is that Reiff will be a lot like Bulaga or Oher. He will beat out Peterman or Cherilus in camp and work his way to the left while Backus finishes his last two years. The line will need more pieces over the next few seasons. Receiver is a bigger need than most fans think. Remember back to the first game versus the Saints where Burleson got all those penalties along with Logan. With Calvin getting paid we cannot dump big money at the position anymore so guys like Burleson will have to go eventually. Also Logan is a returner only so that really limits his value. We know Titus Young can play, so Mayhew has to constantly turn up gems to help out without going into free agency. Plus there was not a ton of value at defensive back when we picked in round 2, so what the hell? The only option I liked was Lemichael James, but evidently the Lions are confident in Best and Leshoure since they did nothing there. Later on Bentley, Lewis and Lewis were great values. If I were to guess, most of the players drafted will make the team along with Kellen Moore.