Zetts for Frolov?

[Pensrockman02]

Make the trade or no?

[eykwingnut]

if u get zetterberg yes. maybe its the homer in me talking and my lack of trust for the LA offense...

[Counter-Trey]

Not a chance.

Frolov dude? FROLOV?

maybe if your pool only counts points every other week.

[Pensrockman02]

haha thanks for the reality check

[eykwingnut]

Not a chance.

Frolov dude? FROLOV?

maybe if your pool only counts points every other week.
thought u were gonna change that avatar homo? :D:beer:

[Pensrockman02]

thought u were gonna change that avatar homo? :D:beer:

Yeah for real man that shit is weird

[Mr.Hockey93]

Ha...I'd take Frolov. Zetterberg does get to shoot against Legace in 9000000 games this season, though....Anyway, I think it's a good deal as I get caught up in production and not names...

[Counter-Trey]

lol, fuck you guys!

[Mr.Hockey93]

Yeah for real man that shit is weird

I'll say. The shit is SCARY weird... Makes me want to vomit!

[eykwingnut]

lol, fuck you guys!
haha just wanted to get a rise outta ya.

[Counter-Trey]

Ha...I'd take Frolov. Zetterberg does get to shoot against Legace in 9000000 games this season, though....Anyway, I think it's a good deal as I get caught up in production and not names...

Well aren't you a savvy GM. On what planet would it be acceptable to trade a player with the potential to pick up 90 points (even with his slow start, wrist) for an inconsistent injury risk?

[Pensrockman02]

Well aren't you a savvy GM. On what planet would it be acceptable to trade a player with the potential to pick up 90 points (even with his slow start, wrist) for an inconsistent injury risk?

The planet where floating men's heads with goofy ass smiles followed by a heart are abundant, of course.

[Mr.Hockey93]

Well aren't you a savvy GM. On what planet would it be acceptable to trade a player with the potential to pick up 90 points (even with his slow start, wrist) for an inconsistent injury risk?

Zetterberg is not that good and I would look to dump him for a talent like Frolov if I was retarded enough to draft him(thus making me NOT a savvy GM) He had a good year last season but that was last year. It's a new year, Heartsy, get with the program or die holding your breath waiting for the injured Zetterberg to rack up points.

[eykwingnut]

The planet where floating men's heads with goofy ass smiles followed by a heart are abundant, of course.:lol:

[eykwingnut]

Zetterberg is not that good and I would look to dump him for a talent like Frolov if I was retarded enough to draft him(thus making me NOT a savvy GM) He had a good year last season but that was last year. It's a new year, Heartsy, get with the program or die holding your breath waiting for the injured Zetterberg to rack up points.:heart:im about to die over here!:heart:

[eykwingnut]

the only thing that sucks now is that if he changes that avatar this whole thread goes to shit...

[Counter-Trey]

The planet where floating men's heads with goofy ass smiles followed by a heart are abundant, of course.


LOL. You guys didn't like the Bosh one either? You were putting me under immense pressure to come up with something and I paniced....

Mr Hockey. If Frolov finishes the year with more points then Zetterberg I guess I would let you use the Wellwood icon. I may change my mind though

[Counter-Trey]

:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

Im comfortable with my love for Kyle.

[Mr.Hockey93]

LOL. You guys didn't like the Bosh one either? You were putting me under immense pressure to come up with something and I paniced....

Mr Hockey. If Frolov finishes the year with more points then Zetterberg I guess I would let you use the Wellwood icon. I may change my mind though

Zetterberg has 15 points in 26 games, dude...Here's a reality check for ya...We'll give Zetts 1 point per game, which I know he won't AVG, for 50 games giving him 76 games played for the year..That will get him to 65 points... That's the reality. Your fantasy, hearts, Zetterbeg out producing Frolov, ect, is not reality. Frolov has 28 points in 29 games, is healthy and will be around 85 points. Frolov is electric and is one of the best young talents in the league. He's doing what he is supposed to do while Ztterberg overachieved on a great Wings team that racked up 124 points last year..

I bet people are kicking themselves for drafting this smut in the second round. His AVG pick in ALL of yahoo drafts was 22.4 overall and round 2.3

Part of being a savvy GM is to KNOW when to cut YOUR losses. To trade a name, because that's all he is right now, for a guy who DOES produce is the exact meaning of the word...

[Blade152]

:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

Im comfortable with my love for Kyle.:\

[projectreturns]

I feel Frolov for Zetterberg is even. They both have good talent. Frolov is unproven but producing while zetterberg is more proven but NOT producing... thus even trade to me!

[phinedays]

:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

Im comfortable with my love for Kyle.
I think I just threw up in my mouth.

[SteelBlue]

I'm a production GM as well and could care less about "names". Like '93 said, Zetts got his name "last" year.
Frolov is a real talent and the Kings just let him play. The Wings just don't score enough for Zetts to keep up.
Mr.Hockey's numbers projection is valid IMO.;)

[SteelBlue]

I think I just threw up in my mouth.


...better there than your lap.:eek:

[Mr.Hockey93]

I feel Frolov for Zetterberg is even. They both have good talent. Frolov is unproven but producing while zetterberg is more proven but NOT producing... thus even trade to me!

They both been in the league the same amount of time and Zetterberg was healthy last year and had the 85 points season. Career....Zetts has 187 points to Frolovs 161...And That's without Frolov having his breakout year...And this is it...

[Mr.Hockey93]

I'm a production GM as well and could care less about "names". Like '93 said, Zetts got his name "last" year.
Frolov is a real talent and the Kings just let him play. The Wings just don't score enough for Zetts to keep up.
Mr.Hockey's numbers projection is valid IMO.;)

oddly enough, you have both of them....So I guess you got Zetts in the second round, too?

[Mucha]

I'd take Frolov.

[SteelBlue]

I feel Frolov for Zetterberg is even. They both have good talent. Frolov is unproven but producing while zetterberg is more proven but NOT producing... thus even trade to me!

I don't buy the term "proven" when talking about Zetts. His current scoring pace will put him at the same point level as his first 2 seasons.(43/44)
You could look at last year as an aboration and say he's really an average producer, especially if he does end up with 45 or so points this year.
Having said that I still think he'll come in at about 60ish give or take 10.

[Mr.Hockey93]

I'd take Frolov.
See...now we're talking....The fact that no one was speaking on Frolov's behalf irked me and the guy who started the thread had a LEGIT question and got misadvised...

[projectreturns]

I don't buy the term "proven" when talking about Zetts. His current scoring pace will put him at the same point level as his first 2 seasons.(43/44)
You could look at last year as an aboration and say he's really an average producer, especially if he does end up with 45 or so points this year.
Having said that I still think he'll come in at about 60ish give or take 10.

key term was "more" proven... which he is... he isn't like frolov who started hot as hell last year and then imploded lol... I think they are about even considering zett has already demonstrated his ability but frolov hasn't put a full season together yet.

[SteelBlue]

oddly enough, you have both of them....So I guess you got Zetts in the second round, too?

Yup, and the only reason I drafted him was because out of the first 16 people that drafted ahead of me, 8 grabbed LWer's!! (weird draft it was)
I plucked Frolov from waivers so having Zett's isn't all bad.:)

[SteelBlue]

key term was "more" proven... which he is... he isn't like frolov who started hot as hell last year and then imploded lol... I think they are about even considering zett has already demonstrated his ability but frolov hasn't put a full season together yet.

Fair enough and all true, but maybe as '93 said, this is Frolov's year.:)

[projectreturns]

yep just depends on what type of gambles you like... unproven to bust out or more proven to rebound

[fuji9991]

That avatar is awesome

Frolov is playing real well. LA has always put him in the game to go big and this year he is shooting on the net like he means business.

Zetterberg will get his game back and be one of the best second half players. I think Zetterberg will outproduce Frolov down the strech.

[Counter-Trey]

You can say what you want really. Frolov is hot right now..sure..

Im not convinced that hes going to outpoint Zberg simple as that, even though I found your analysis really interesting...

edit- That avatar is awesome
word.

[anotherleafsfan]

props on the avvy.

[Mr.Hockey93]

props on the avvy.

You don't find it just a LITTLE gay, though?

It's one thing to support a player but to have him in the middle of a heart is just flat out HOMO!

[crownroyal]

You don't find it just a LITTLE gay, though?

It's one thing to support a player but to have him in the middle of a heart is just flat out HOMO!


Who is that elfy looking little man anyway? Whomever it is, the pic, without even getting into the heart, is a bit, shall we say, fruity

[Mr.Hockey93]

Who is that elfy looking little man anyway? Whomever it is, the pic, without even getting into the heart, is a bit, shall we say, fruity


:lol::lol::lol:

Yeh...It's Kyle Wellwood...

[cndrunt21]

that avvy should definetly be vetoed IMO

[Mr.Hockey93]

that avvy should definetly be vetoed IMO

:lol:

[Pensrockman02]

As they say... he's here. he's queer. Get used to it.

[Counter-Trey]

LOL the uproar this icon is causing is too funny!

My only choice is to keep it.

[Mr.Hockey93]

LOL the uproar this icon is causing is too funny!

My only choice is to keep it.

All we need from you now is a penis shaped loli-pop with you sucking on it as your sig...:lol:

SORRY, let me correct myself. WE DONT REALLY WANT TO SEE BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HANDY!

[Counter-Trey]

All we need from you now is a penis shaped loli-pop with you sucking on it as your sig...:lol:

SORRY, let me correct myself. WE DONT REALLY WANT TO SEE BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HANDY!

good one? I would have thoguht an old man like you would be above jokes like that. guess not.

[Mr.Hockey93]

good one? I would have thoguht an old man like you would be above jokes like that. guess not.

:lol:

Sorry for picking on you, queer....It's funny to "rub" homos the wrong way on a hockey site..The 2 don't match to me and, if I had a big red marker, I would circle your name/avatar when asked "What's wrong with this picture" pertaining to everything on this site....You, would get the only circle..But, then again, you like being different, now don't you?

[Counter-Trey]

but you don't have a red marker now do you?

Whats wrong with this site? A dude from St Louis (LOL) with a Gilmour obsession comes to mind

[Mr.Hockey93]

but you don't have a red marker now do you?

Whats wrong with this site? A dude from St Louis (LOL) with a Gilmour obsession comes to mind
HMMM....Another out of his "ass" remark??

Gilmour was on the Blues to begin his career..But a "queer as folk" TIVO bitch like yourself would not have a God's honest clue about that now would he/it/her?

[Counter-Trey]

lol tivo bitch....:lol:

you seem to prefer the leafs era.....and its he... and the laughable part about you being from a beautiful city like St Louis still stands.

[Mr.Hockey93]

lol tivo bitch....:lol:

you seem to prefer the leafs era.....and its he... and the laughable part about you being from a beautiful city like St Louis still stands.

Here you go again....showing your true colors using words like "BEAUTIFUL" and using little red hearts to show your love...Who cares where the fuck I'm from??? Well known sports town, without a doubt. Beer drinking town....Not afraid to show where I'm from or what I'm about...Geesh. :rolleyes: fucking queers, I'll tell ya! :rolleyes:

[leaffan17]

It will be interesting to see how this pans out. Last year around this time when both Frolov and Zetter were playing well I traded Frolov for Zetter straight up and it was one of my best moves hands down, as Frolov went on to do nothing, and Zetter accelerated throught to the second half of the year ended with his break out 86 points. Things are different now in this situation with Frolov's stock much higher than Zetts. Its hard to take Frolov with the "second half fizzler" label since it was only last season. But who knows, as a biased Zetter owner this year as well I have faith that in the long run he will outproduce Frolov. If Frolov tails off this year again then that's pretty Hank Blalock'esque, but for now I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he'll maybe drop to a slightly slower pace and produce a solid year.

[Counter-Trey]

Ah yes, The Rustbucket of America, I can see where you get your edge

If you believe you can conclude that im gay by the icon that I choose then thats your problem bud.

Shoudn't you be at work?

[Mr.Hockey93]

Ah yes, The Rustbucket of America, I can see where you get your edge

If you believe you can conclude that im gay by the icon that I choose then thats your problem bud.

Shoudn't you be at work?

I could care less what you think of my little midwestern city....And yes, I think you have some sugar in the tank for even considering to have something like that.. I'ts not healthy behavior...I don't even care if you're queer...but, I do think it's there...

[crownroyal]

It will be interesting to see how this pans out. Last year around this time when both Frolov and Zetter were playing well I traded Frolov for Zetter straight up and it was one of my best moves hands down, as Frolov went on to do nothing, and Zetter accelerated throught to the second half of the year ended with his break out 86 points. Things are different now in this situation with Frolov's stock much higher than Zetts. Its hard to take Frolov with the "second half fizzler" label since it was only last season. But who knows, as a biased Zetter owner this year as well I have faith that in the long run he will outproduce Frolov. If Frolov tails off this year again then that's pretty Hank Blalock'esque, but for now I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he'll maybe drop to a slightly slower pace and produce a solid year.

I am not sure what any of this has to do with the ongoing discussion between Hockey and Counter. Do you think this is a hockey related thread or something??.........:D

[Mr.Hockey93]

I am not sure what any of this has to do with the ongoing discussion between Hockey and Counter. Do you think this is a hockey related thread or something??.........:D

:lol:

I'm sorry guys....Between this guy and Muffin man, I lost my cool today... :lol::evilgrin: I guess...

[eykwingnut]

:lol:

I'm sorry guys....Between this guy and Muffin man, I lost my cool today... :lol::evilgrin: I guess...
muffin man? another thread with him? i gotta go search for it.

[Counter-Trey]

Hey Mr Hockey, How about that Zetterberg?

Zetterberg is not that good and I would look to dump him for a talent like Frolov if I was retarded enough to draft him(thus making me NOT a savvy GM) He had a good year last season but that was last year. It's a new year, Heartsy, get with the program or die holding your breath waiting for the injured Zetterberg to rack up points.

I didn't think there was enough lead paint in the world to make something this retarded....

Guess he isn't the "injured" "smut" you described him as, 65 points for the year you say? How about hes already at 64 and has surpassed Frolov.

Do people actually listen to you?

[eykwingnut]

well everyone makes the wrong call from time to time. hes just a zetterberg hater. but now even he sees the reality :) a lot of ppl agreed with him too... sad...

[projectreturns]

At the time they were pretty even just cuz zetts was struggling but had the superstar season before and frolov was on fire. Frolov is still talented but zetts is bonafide now. Two years in a row of superstardom :)

[Counter-Trey]

Agreed, everyone makes a wrong prediction from time to time. But this moron totally wrote off Zetterberg.

I tihnk his war was less with Zetterberg and more with my icon which is quite pathetic.

[eykwingnut]

Agreed, everyone makes a wrong prediction from time to time. But this moron totally wrote off Zetterberg.

I tihnk his war was less with Zetterberg and more with my icon which is quite pathetic.
haha. plz dont get him all razzed again. anyways like i said before. i think hes just got something against zetterberg. hes hated on him for a while. maybe hell change his mind now, then again, maybe not.

[projectreturns]

mrhockey is just very opinionated... right or wrong. Not much grey area.

[tfaz07]

lol nice avatar, wellwood rocks

[two24four]

They are not that far off this year...

Zetts, GP 60, G 30, A 34 Pts 64.

Frolov GP 60, G 31, A, 28, Pts 59.

I like Frolov alittle better myself.

[projectreturns]

They are not that far off this year...

Zetts, GP 60, G 30, A 34 Pts 64.

Frolov GP 60, G 31, A, 28, Pts 59.

I like Frolov alittle better myself.

Well for this season the other stats.. especially plus/minus are what makes zetts the much better option. Longterm frolov has the talent to keep up though definately.

[two24four]

haha. plz dont get him all razzed again. anyways like i said before. i think hes just got something against zetterberg. hes hated on him for a while. maybe hell change his mind now, then again, maybe not.

:lol: :lol:

[two24four]

Well for this season the other stats.. especially plus/minus are what makes zetts the much better option. Longterm frolov has the talent to keep up though definately.

Yeah Plus - is where Zetts kills Frolov.

[tfaz07]

Zetts recent play has made him the better choice IMO. I knew this would happen when i traded for him earlier in the year.

Love the Raycroft sig 24

[eykwingnut]

Well for this season the other stats.. especially plus/minus are what makes zetts the much better option. Longterm frolov has the talent to keep up though definately.
oh ya plus minus for SURE.

[oncogene]

Good thing I kept Zett thru all the rough time. This' one of the first few threads I read after I first joined here.... but wasn't about to trade Zetter away, who's playing the top line in a good team, at rock bottom low price.

+/- AND FW!

[tjdale99]

Zetts is the best player in fantasy hockey over the last 2 months, at this point the only player i trade him for is Crosby

[Counter-Trey]

They are not that far off this year...

Zetts, GP 60, G 30, A 34 Pts 64.

Frolov GP 60, G 31, A, 28, Pts 59.

I like Frolov alittle better myself.

Indeed its still close and Im sure it will continue to be untill the end of the season.

The comparison wasn't what I was trying to highlight in this bump. Dude wrote of Zetterberg. He makes a huge deal about not being interested in names... since when was Zetterberg just a name? He proceded to note that Berg is smut and currently injured and will never have a chance to match his production.

Zetterberg is a beast not only is he a natural goal scorer, he kills penalties, is an assistant captain (quite an accomplishment on that vetran squad) and is a playmaker.. it addition to the fantasy category value he provides. . Not some dime a dozen forward with a nice skill set ala Frolov.

[Counter-Trey]

Good thing I kept Zett thru all the rough time. This' one of the first few threads I read after I first joined here.... but wasn't about to trade Zetter away, who's playing the top line in a good team, at rock bottom low price.

+/- AND FW!


good thing we "held our breath" and waited for Berg to get over his little slump. According to mr Hockey we would die doing so .

[shepherd959]

zetts has been playin extremely well but you have to remember frolov plays for a shit team in the nhl and still gives consistent production. he is not a dime a dozen, that is for sure.

[Mr.Hockey93]

Zetterberg changed his season around, no doubt about it. If you could not get a good value for him then he has payed off..I still would take Frolov if I had the chance with no regret and that has nothing to do with hating on Zetterberg.

[Mr.Hockey93]

Agreed, everyone makes a wrong prediction from time to time. But this moron totally wrote off Zetterberg.

I tihnk his war was less with Zetterberg and more with my icon which is quite pathetic.

Don't flatter yourself.

I could give a flying fuck about you and that gay avatar.

[Patriot0103]

I'm a huge fan of Frolov, but I couldn't take him over Zetts. It's extremely close, but I'd give Zett the edge. Frolov's +/- would be fine if his team was even decent, so in a keeper I'd probably overlook that stat a bit.

Zetts is the best player in fantasy hockey over the last 2 months, at this point the only player i trade him for is Crosby

That's crazy talk.

[Mr.Hockey93]

the only player i trade him for is Crosby

That's crazy talk.


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Counter-Trey]

Zetterberg is not that good and I would look to dump him for a talent like Frolov if I was retarded enough to draft him(thus making me NOT a savvy GM) He had a good year last season but that was last year. It's a new year, Heartsy, get with the program or die holding your breath waiting for the injured Zetterberg to rack up points.



Conn Smyth winner.

How do I add Mr Hockey to my ignore list?

[mkmayers]

Conn Smyth winner.

How do I add Mr Hockey to my ignore list?

You don't have to, he's been banned.

[Raja]

talk about a huge bump o_O

since i dont really feel like making a new topic and its not very important...Frolov or Parise? Dynasty league, it would be my top LW player.

[Snipes16]

You don't have to, he's been banned.

Banned? Must have done something really dumb to get banned from here cause this place is pretty lenient in my view...hmm

[Hawkeye]

Banned? Must have done something really dumb to get banned from here cause this place is pretty lenient in my view...hmm

He would always come here with his drunk racist rants...

[Hamsterkill]

Banned? Must have done something really dumb to get banned from here cause this place is pretty lenient in my view...hmm

Yeah, personal insult tolerance has its limts even here.

[chgorman]

He would always come here with his drunk racist rants...

The homophobia didn't really help either...