Makin for B. Richards...

[projectreturns]

I would GET Malkin. What would you do? I know it would be a big gamble going to a rookie!

[gogoayane]

Malkin for Brad Richards? uh yes I would do the trade and no it will not be a gamble and yes you win that trade.

[tyler0896]

who's getting who? "X for Y" usually means you're giving up X and getting Y, but you said going to a rookie.

ok i guess your teams in your sig. it's a keeper so you shouldn't get screwed too bad in the long run if he doesn't have a great year. since you have spezza i'd say take the gamble.

[b_illin]

Wow, pull the trigger and laugh all season as Richards lights it up! (unless this is a keeper, in which case, i would still accept, but I wouldn't be as gung-ho)

[projectreturns]

Wow, pull the trigger and laugh all season as Richards lights it up! (unless this is a keeper, in which case, i would still accept, but I wouldn't be as gung-ho)

This is a keeper (my sig) and I would be GETTING Malkin

[two24four]

Yeah I would do that trade, nice trade for you.

[moans]

yeah definitely do it

[Andrew1125]

Since it's a keeper that should work out in your favour.

[Bogans]

I totally disagree, you are giving up a proven star in this league for a guy with potential to be a star. Richards is going to collect 90 - 100 points every year for the next ten years, I do not know why you would give up a guy like that for ANY prospect. Before last season I probably would not have given up Richards for Crosby or Ovechkin. Granted, it would have been a mistake in retrospect, but remember Alexander Daigle was a first overall draft choice, Pavel Brendl was an overall #4 draft choice, they don't ALL pan out. You think Malkin is a sure thing, but there is a reason he is not going first round in fantasy drafts. I do not like this trade at all.

[boredguy]

I'd keep Richards. You have a really good team with enough young stars that you don't have to worry about roster turnover too much. Richards will score more points this year and won't be too far off at worst in future seasons, go for the win this year and keep Richards.

[glooyenga]

i agree, I would much rather have a proven Richards over the rookie malkin

[gogoayane]

Something tells me he will pull something like Crosby and Ovechkin (production-wise)

[HeyNewbie]

If a keeper -- definitely. If not -- then it's a crapshoot, IMO.

[ICEMAN]

I totally disagree, you are giving up a proven star in this league for a guy with potential to be a star. Richards is going to collect 90 - 100 points every year for the next ten years, I do not know why you would give up a guy like that for ANY prospect. Before last season I probably would not have given up Richards for Crosby or Ovechkin. Granted, it would have been a mistake in retrospect, but remember Alexander Daigle was a first overall draft choice, Pavel Brendl was an overall #4 draft choice, they don't ALL pan out. You think Malkin is a sure thing, but there is a reason he is not going first round in fantasy drafts. I do not like this trade at all.

Thank you for saving me the keyboarding

Listen to this man

[gogoayane]

Malkin didn't go first overall simply because he ain't proven.

Did anyone here drafted Crosby or Ovechkin 1st overall last year? Even if they are in the system I'm sure none of you will take them in the 1st round.

I totally see why you wouldn't want to take the gamble but speculations and scouts all believe Malkin will be the Calder winner this year, this must say alot about him.

In the end this is all about the gamble. Especially with a keeper's league I would take that risk. I highly doubt that he will end up being like Diagle and become a failed actor.

[b_illin]

Why not ask him to give you a solid D-Man for one of your unproven guys to even things out...or do something of the sort, because I would take the security of Richards over the limited (future) upside of Malkin. It's not like Richards is old. In fact, he's just hitting his prime in all likelihood and might have a great 8-10 yrs left in him before his production starts to dip - that's pretty awesome as is Malkin's potential, but I'll take top 10 proven over potential top 5 anyday!

[projectreturns]

Well part of it is the excitement of the risk and possible franchise player reward. Malkin has 110 potential or more eventually and many more goals which makes a bigger difference. I see that it is a HUGE risk yes. Seems like the forum is very torn on this one.

BTW Didn't Malkin lead the Russian Superleague in pts last year? That is about as close to the NHL as you can get for competition right!?! I think he had like 40 something pts. That is like 90 in the NHL at least!

[Andrew1125]

BTW Didn't Malkin lead the Russian Superleague in pts last year? That is about as close to the NHL as you can get for competition right!?! I think he had like 40 something pts. That is like 90 in the NHL at least!Apples and oranges. The Russian Superleague is definitely a competetive league, but I doubt you can translate the numbers over as simply as that, there are other factors involved I'm sure.

[two24four]

Dont forget also they dont count the 2nd assist in Russia.

[tyler0896]

I might be wrong but when I went to look up his stats, he was 3rd in the league in his most recent season.

[Habs79]

do it man, you have more to win than to lose

[Roy Hinske]

In a keeper I would do it. Like Ovechkin, Malkin has some experience playing in a mens league.

[Bogans]

In a keeper I would do it. Like Ovechkin, Malkin has some experience playing in a mens league.

Yeah, but you are giving up a guaranteed star who has not even hit his prime yet and plays 82 games per season. Not in non-keeper or in a keeper would I do this.

[tyler0896]

Scared money don't win no money. If you're in a league with other good players and play it as safe as possible and take no big risks, you'll probably finish 4th or maybe even 3rd.

[Doctego]

I totally disagree, you are giving up a proven star in this league for a guy with potential to be a star. Richards is going to collect 90 - 100 points every year for the next ten years, I do not know why you would give up a guy like that for ANY prospect. Before last season I probably would not have given up Richards for Crosby or Ovechkin. Granted, it would have been a mistake in retrospect, but remember Alexander Daigle was a first overall draft choice, Pavel Brendl was an overall #4 draft choice, they don't ALL pan out. You think Malkin is a sure thing, but there is a reason he is not going first round in fantasy drafts. I do not like this trade at all.

I pretty much agree 100%.;)

[Doctego]

Scared money don't win no money. If you're in a league with other good players and play it as safe as possible and take no big risks, you'll probably finish 4th or maybe even 3rd.

And going all-in on the first hand every time with 7-2 will eventually bite you in the ass. We're not talking about trading Sakic for Malkin. We are talking about a still young Richards. Richards had a somewhat down year last year and Ovechkin was awesome yet Richards was only 15 points behind him. Does anyone here really think that Malkin will come close to Ovechkin-type numbers this season?? I don't. He has enough young gambles on his team. He also has a strong core of guys like Spezza, Heatley, and Richards. I would stand pat and not even consider it. The only way that I would consider it is if my team was made up of aging stars and prospects but that's not the case.

[projectreturns]

And going all-in on the first hand every time with 7-2 will eventually bite you in the ass. We're not talking about trading Sakic for Malkin. We are talking about a still young Richards. Richards had a somewhat down year last year and Ovechkin was awesome yet Richards was only 15 points behind him. Does anyone here really think that Malkin will come close to Ovechkin-type numbers this season?? I don't. He has enough young gambles on his team. He also has a strong core of guys like Spezza, Heatley, and Richards. I would stand pat and not even consider it. The only way that I would consider it is if my team was made up of aging stars and prospects but that's not the case.

I agree with much of what you are saying but how can you say richards had a somewhat DOWN year? It was by far his best! Sure it is the new NHL but it was still his top performance right? Maybe you are thinking of how the guys around him were worse. Now that is true and if improved could make him better yes.

[projectreturns]

Welp it looks like the vote so far is 9 to 6 in favor of taking Malkin. Majority rules but is it always right? Regardless I did go with Malkin and accepted back when it was more like 4 to 1 in favor of Malkin lol. This is still a good debate though and only time will tell! A Russian Roulette....well I hope the losing the trade isn't that bad lol.

[projectreturns]

Dug this up. A lot has changed since then. Amazing to see who was around back then and still is and even the difference in writing style for me at least.

Anyway, the biggest thing is the topic of the debate.

I have gotten so lucky in that league with my moves. Back-to-Back Champion largely because of moves like this going right instead of wrong. I'm not going to say it wasn't a huge risk though. Maybe Richards will rebound this year again finally but wow, it was worth it eh?

[housenuts]

wow, i just started reading this as if it was current. i was really scratching my head. glad to see it's 2 years old. i think i would have taken malkin back then, but not sure.

[Skate or Die]

Good read! Looking forward to the "duhhhhh, wtf, you're so stupid for asking this question" replies.

[projectreturns]

Lol might not happen but I too was hoping for those. This deal was a huge risk with Richards coming off his best season and Malkin having not played a game yet. Roll of the dice felt sooo nice though.

[ICEMAN]

Lol might not happen but I too was hoping for those. This deal was a huge risk with Richards coming off his best season and Malkin having not played a game yet. Roll of the dice felt sooo nice though.

I suggest you go with Malkin :D